Why isn't healthcare free in the U.S.?

[MikeLowrrrey]

Reading up on this topic and am using Canada and UK as examples. I know it isn't technically free, as the costs does come from somewhere via taxes. I don't know the living costs there, but it can't be that bad compared to U.S. living costs.

Some people pay as much as $600/month for healthcare and never get sick.

[JaxBrah]

lol, its not “free” anywhere on earth.


well, other than in America when you go to an ER without insurance

[nothingshocking]

Capitalism is the basis of this country's economy.

[Ratfish]

i pay 323/mo for exactly dick (no homeau)

fukken bloatlords driving up the costs for everyone

[Omnivium]

Healthcare isn't free anywhere. You always end up paying for it whether it's directly, or indirectly with higher taxes, longer wait times, chitty quality etc

[Midi77]

18% of GDP, lobbyists own the politicians that make the laws, the only outcome that will ever occur is more money to healthcare industries disguised as the government offering "free" healthcare to the people. One of the main reasons healthcare is so high is because the government is involved in it to the extent they are, same with higher ed.

[BrightThru2014]

Compare breast cancer survival rates, waiting lists for treatment, and the quantity and quality of cutting edge procedures and medicines available in those countries and the United States.

Then you will understand why we don't do "free" healthcare.

[JMath]

Because the US is a country that (at least in the past) society generally encourages self sufficiency and personal responsibility. While many countries feel it is the responsibility of all society to provide for one another, American's have historically believed that you should take care of yourself. We believe in more individual autonomy and freedoms (thus gun rights, more freedom of speech, etc.) and that people in general should be left alone to live their lives more independently from one another and not have the rest of society dictate their lives. We just have less of a group model than most other countries.

This has been changing with more and more of the "____ for all" and "free ____" campaigns that have become more popular.

[EnderG60]

Rich people own all the medical companies and they hire lobbyists. Its not really that hard to figure out.

If the Gov took control of healthcare an entire industry would simple disappear, it would seriously fuk the economy.

That said, it should be done. The only reason prices are so high is because of greed and ass hats suing doctors too much.

[Beararms]

Healthcare isnt "free" look at the taxes that some people pay in those "free" healthcare countries.

[TBO1313]

We don't have nationalized healthcare because there is no sense of community. Most Americans hate other Americans from different regions and don't want to pay for them

[xxAchillesxx]

Some people pay as much as $600/month for healthcare and never get sick.

So instead of $600 going to Blue Cross Blue Shield it'd be going to Uncle Sam. While still never getting sick.

[Jacobcapra]

Some people's healthcare plans suck, man.


My high cost plan is $139/mo. The cheap one is $101/mo.


$750 deductible, $3K OOP max, $25 copay.

[niospecv]

Some people pay as much as $600/month for healthcare and never get sick.

I pay $600 for my family and believe me it comes in handy.

[gbullock32]

Healthcare isnt "free" look at the taxes that some people pay in those "free" healthcare countries.

This. Everything has a cost, the only thing that changes is who pays it.

[Rad203]

We don't have nationalized healthcare because there is no sense of community. Most Americans hate other Americans from different regions and don't want to pay for them

lol have you ever been to the UK? What community spirit are you talking about

[OffwhiteBrah]

Drug companies
Banks
Insurance companies...

see a trend ?

[VegasLifter26]

Im not sure about the UK or Canada but here in the US we dont have enough young people paying for the old. Most of the baby boomers are retiring and using medicare (govt funded healthcare) Secondly, and this might be more important, but most unhealthy people in the US are poor people. Thus the middle class and wealthy have to pay for them. Alot of them are repeat visitors as well...and most of their issues come from living an unhealthy lifestyle (smoking, drinking, bad diet, no exercise, ect) Another issue is the costs of Research and development.

However that being said ...if someone were to make 80k in the US vs Canada the person in the US could save around $500 more bucks per month. A good insurance plan for someone who is healthy is around $300....the only issue and one of the biggest issue i see is people not getting approved for insurance plans because of already pre existing conditions

[RaibeartBruis]

Compare breast cancer survival rates, waiting lists for treatment, and the quantity and quality of cutting edge procedures and medicines available in those countries and the United States.

Then you will understand why we don't do "free" healthcare.

Stop coping. The U.S. generally has worse outcomes than other developed countries

[VegasLifter26]

That said, it should be done. The only reason prices are so high is because of greed and ass hats suing doctors too much.

LOL you cant be serous ...

[TBO1313]

lol have you ever been to the UK? What community spirit are you talking about

I've been there. Have you ever been to the different regions of the US to see how wildly different it is from place to place?

[LegDayLol]

The UK's NHS is a socialist failure IMO, it's being abused by fatties and immigrants... and now screeching liberals want UK brahs to foot the bill for all the 'mentally ill' teenagers that are everywhere lmao...

Trying to adopt this kind of socialist scheme in America is a laughable fantasy.

[VegasLifter26]

I've been there. Have you ever been to the different regions of the US to see how wildly different it is from place to place?

its not really that different from region to region man. My mom is from the north, my dad is from the midwest, and i live in the south. Most of america has small town , conservative values. We just dont like soyboys. tree huggers, and queers who live in big cities..

ever seen the map that showed how many counties trump won?

[TBO1313]

its not really that different from region to region man. My mom is from the north, my dad is from the midwest, and i live in the south. Most of america has small town , conservative values. We just dont like soyboys. tree huggers, and queers who live in big cities..

ever seen the map that showed how many counties trump won?

I'm not talking conservative vs liberal or ruralite vs urbanite. It is culturally and genetically way more different in Minnesota than Mississippi or California than from Scotland to London to Belfast. If we had a multiparty system like they have in the UK no way a guy from New York ever wins in the rural south. The only reason Trump did was because he was the only republican that promised to build a wall and bring jobs back

[zknarc]

They don't feel it is the job of a modern civilized society to foot the bill for the healthcare of the weakest in society.

[LinuxJon]

-economically plausible massive social programs

-insane amounts of immigration

Pick one. You can't have both. The math doesn't work when 90% of the services go to the faction who pays no tax into the system.

[benyu]

Most rich Americans are white. They don't want to pay the most taxes so the minority can get free health care. Thus, health Care is mostly for the rich working in good jobs with insurance by their own wallet or by the company they work for.

[Spahgetti]

Anything important in Canada for example still needs to go to private (paid) healthcare because the wait lists for 'free' (taxed out the angus even again if they never get sick on ALL MONEY they make), are entirely too long.

[Shysty021]

Survival of the fittest

In America if you get sick you fight it and possibly die or you go to the hospital and forever stay in debt

The whole goal is to prevent sickness and the recent studies show that semen deters 99.9% of germs and viruses. Lol @ people that dont drink and lather semen to remain top dog

[MikeLowrrrey]

Healthcare isn't free anywhere. You always end up paying for it whether it's directly, or indirectly with higher taxes, longer wait times, chitty quality etc

You all keep saying this, but when someone goes in for Medical care in Canada or UK, they pay much, much less than we do. I know it's not free, but why don't we have their system?

Compare breast cancer survival rates, waiting lists for treatment, and the quantity and quality of cutting edge procedures and medicines available in those countries and the United States.

Then you will understand why we don't do "free" healthcare.

I've tried reading into this, but many Canadians or British don't complain of any of what you listed.

Also I think UK has a longer living span than U.S.