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    Originally Posted by BrightThru2014 View Post
    Keep in mind, he has access to "free" healthcare through Medicaid. To the extent that he was actually selling any assets to pay for healthcare costs, he's paying for additional services. This would be the same case in any European socialized healthcare system.
    lol take off your partisan hat and just admit that is fuking sad af

    whether you are pro uhc or not, that is sad
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    wow that is fuking sad
    Yeah, that's rough man. Now lets focus on whats really important: free health care for illegals
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Yeah, that's rough man. Now lets focus on whats really important: free health care for illegals
    Tulsi doesn't support that.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Tulsi doesn't support that.
    Well no wonder she won't win, her priorities are all wrong
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    The reason your system is costly is because the average BMI is 32.
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    Originally Posted by Hnbn1 View Post
    The reason your system is costly is because the average BMI is 32.
    It's not just the Amerifats that are causing the high prices, that plays a pretty small role. You can identify lots of different areas where costs are abnormally high that have nothing to do with the complexity of treatment itself.

    Not gonna lie I bust out laughing when I saw this though:

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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    Facepalming at the sad sad people who resort to insults.


    Repeating for the thousandth time.


    If my taxes need to go up to pay for something, then it's not free.
    It's hard not to call you an imbecile when you refuse to Google what "free at the point of use" means. If you Googled the term, you wouldn't be repeating this drivel like a parrot.
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    Originally Posted by guitarwar241 View Post
    It's hard not to call you an imbecile when you refuse to Google what "free at the point of use" means. If you Googled the term, you wouldn't be repeating this drivel like a parrot.
    Sounds like you dont want to admit its not free
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    Originally Posted by guitarwar241 View Post
    It's hard not to call you an imbecile when you refuse to Google what "free at the point of use" means. If you Googled the term, you wouldn't be repeating this drivel like a parrot.
    You've done all you reasonably could.

    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Sounds like you dont want to admit its not free
    Low level trolling from you, I hope.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    You've done all you reasonably could.



    Low level trolling from you, I hope.
    Get a job and you won’t have to worry about not having affordable healthcare. It’s a very simple solution for beta male cucks like yourself.
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    Originally Posted by jeepwrangler8 View Post
    Get a job and you won’t have to worry about not having affordable healthcare. It’s a very simple solution for beta male cucks like yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Hnbn1 View Post
    The reason your system is costly is because the average BMI is 32.
    Literally couldn't be more wrong.

    Healthcare for profit LOVES fat people.
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    They also love anyone who needs cancer treatments..

    Or any other advanced medical care..

    As long as they have money. Lot's of money.
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    Originally Posted by StoliFun View Post
    You've done all you reasonably could.
    Yeah, there's really nothing else that can be said to the guy. Being intentionally ignorant is just silly to me.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    lol take off your partisan hat and just admit that is fuking sad af

    whether you are pro uhc or not, that is sad
    He was on Medicare, please explain how Medicare for all was going to fix it.

    Likely he paid for some new treatment not yet FDA approved, at 96 to what extent/cost should others pay to keep someone alive? To what age?
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    Originally Posted by guitarwar241 View Post
    It's hard not to call you an imbecile when you refuse to Google what "free at the point of use" means. If you Googled the term, you wouldn't be repeating this drivel like a parrot.
    Only imbeciles would care about "free at the point of use", I am more concerned with end cost to me over time.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Well no wonder she won't win, her priorities are all wrong
    She's a Russian agent remember?
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    Originally Posted by ImBunky View Post
    He was on Medicare, please explain how Medicare for all was going to fix it.

    Likely he paid for some new treatment not yet FDA approved, at 96 to what extent/cost should others pay to keep someone alive? To what age?
    For a clinical trial? Usually the trial sponsor would cover the costs of the drug and health insurance would cover routine doctors visits. The compassionate use program not sure where the cost burden is.
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    Originally Posted by Ten_Hearts View Post
    For a clinical trial? Usually the trial sponsor would cover the costs of the drug and health insurance would cover routine doctors visits. The compassionate use program not sure where the cost burden is.
    May have been a new drug/treatment that he wasn't eligible for any trials (at 96 not likely he would be), so he chose to pay.
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    Originally Posted by Ten_Hearts View Post
    For a clinical trial? Usually the trial sponsor would cover the costs of the drug and health insurance would cover routine doctors visits. The compassionate use program not sure where the cost burden is.
    And anyway, he had dementia and needed long term care which Medicare doesn't cover but Medicaid will to an extent. So to qualify for Medicaid he got rid of some assets. Many other countries pay for long term care for their elderly.

    Still a sad thing to see.
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    Originally Posted by BrightThru2014 View Post
    Look, if this story is legit, I'm sorry and that sucks. I wish you and your sister the best, but public policy should not be decided on the basis of extreme anecdotes:

    - Do you really think that she would have received that care in another country where government bureaucracies are the ones responsible for controlling costs?
    - At least in America she has the OPTION of receiving life saving care in the first place.

    FYI to the other posters in this thread what ErnieMccracken is describing is 100% illegal and there is undoubtedly more to this story. Insurance companies are legally obligated to cover procedures that fall within the "standard of care" for treating a given illness. He is either lying or extremely ignorant of his rights and he needs to immediately sue.
    He's right that you should consider suing them if the cost is half a million.
    My neighbour did that, she had to hire her own expert to contradict the company's expert and she won, but first they refused to pay her pension. They disagreed about both the terms of the contract, (told her she can just change job, she was a head nurse) and the cause of her disability if I remember. Other would have given up.
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