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    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    why would the line of thought turn away moderate people?
    Because moderate people tend to seek out objectivity. If they were susceptible to ideological bias then they would have already abandoned their moderate position.

    Think about it this way: if the Harvard authors are so willing to blatantly reveal their political bias, then how can we trust the objectivity of their other arguments? They clearly want to demonize beef consumption.

    I'm genuinely curious to get others' take on this. Am I just reflecting my own bias here? I consider unprocessed beef to be "clean", so if it's not then I am definitely more IIFYM than I thought.
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    Originally Posted by rtpmarine View Post
    Because moderate people tend to seek out objectivity. If they were susceptible to ideological bias then they would have already abandoned their moderate position.
    I don't see how carbon emissions leading to increased climate change isn't objective...

    No, it's not related to health, but it's not false.
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    Originally Posted by rtpmarine View Post
    Because moderate people tend to seek out objectivity. If they were susceptible to ideological bias then they would have already abandoned their moderate position.

    Think about it this way: if the Harvard authors are so willing to blatantly reveal their political bias, then how can we trust the objectivity of their other arguments? They clearly want to demonize beef consumption.

    I'm genuinely curious to get others' take on this. Am I just reflecting my own bias here? I consider unprocessed beef to be "clean", so if it's not then I am definitely more IIFYM than I thought.
    where was the ideological bias? if they said meat was the highest cause of climate change or some such there might be, but acknowledge it as an existing factor isn't ideology or politics
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    I don't see how carbon emissions leading to increased climate change isn't objective...

    No, it's not related to health, but it's not false.
    Originally Posted by WolfRose7 View Post
    where was the ideological bias? if they said meat was the highest cause of climate change or some such there might be, but acknowledge it as an existing factor isn't ideology or politics
    Right, I'm not trying to challenge the validity of that specific claim. I'm just saying that inserting that claim into the discussion about direct health effects throws up red-flags for bias.
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    What foods do you eat in a day AdamWW ? I would like to know. Are you Vegan?
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    Originally Posted by Gringer View Post
    What foods do you eat in a day AdamWW ? I would like to know. Are you Vegan?
    Not vegan... tho I did try it for almost 3 years once. Not for me.

    I eat a lot of different things. Why r u asking?
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