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    MAGA brahs absolutely love the straw man fallacy

    they can't get enough of it!

    a straw man is an invalid argument used by kindergartners, the mentally disabled, and maga brahs on these boards. it works by 1) inventing an idiotic position which your opponent doesnt actually hold, 2) attributing it to your opponent as if they did, and then 3) attacking it as if your opponent is defending it. its a 3 part brain-melting display of stupidity.

    so for example, i might take the following position:

    "I think we should end taxpayer funded corn syrup subsidies because it might be increasing our healthcare costs and its also a form of socialism I dont support because compulsory taxpayer dollars are ripped away from hard working americans and then given to farmers and if youre gonna utilize a socialist system to compel taxpayers to fund something it should at least larely benefit the taxpayers who funded it and I dont see how the lives of more than a few people have been improved with corn syrup subsidies."

    now for the straw man! let's invent some positions i dont actually hold, and let's make them real stupid so we can easily attack them. its hard to actually argue with what i said so we need to make some sh*t up so we can attack something else instead. here's a few made-up positions that are much easier to attack:

    -"so you dont want kids to exercise and you dont want parents to take responsibility?"
    -"so you want to end all government subsidies?"
    -"so we shouldn't have corn syrup?"
    -"so you want to put farmers out of business?"
    -"so we shouldnt have freedom of choice?"
    -"so you want more/less government?"

    this game is fun

    next up is the ad hominems - a group of angry maga manlets who only insult and never debate
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    Interesting strategy you have. Begin discussion of the straw man with ad hominem.
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    Your arguement is "Hurr Durr, corn syrup," instead of blaming the parents. If you're a kid, and you're obese, it's your parents fault. If you're an adult, its your own damn fault. Take responsibility for your actions, and put down the **** food that you're stuffing your face with.

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    This is definitely worth it's own thread bro. You're completely mentally stable. Them walls are closing in.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    they can't get enough of it!

    a straw man is an invalid argument used by kindergartners, the mentally disabled, and maga brahs on these boards. it works by 1) inventing an idiotic position which your opponent doesnt actually hold, 2) attributing it to your opponent as if they did, and then 3) attacking it as if your opponent is defending it. its a 3 part brain-melting display of stupidity.

    so for example, i might take the following position:

    "I think we should end taxpayer funded corn syrup subsidies because it might be increasing our healthcare costs and its also a form of socialism I dont support because compulsory taxpayer dollars are ripped away from hard working americans and then given to farmers and if youre gonna utilize a socialist system to compel taxpayers to fund something it should at least larely benefit the taxpayers who funded it and I dont see how the lives of more than a few people have been improved with corn syrup subsidies."

    now for the straw man! let's invent some positions i dont actually hold, and let's make them real stupid so we can easily attack them. its hard to actually argue with what i said so we need to make some sh*t up so we can attack something else instead. here's a few made-up positions that are much easier to attack:

    -"so you dont want kids to exercise and you dont want parents to take responsibility?"
    -"so you want to end all government subsidies?"
    -"so we shouldn't have corn syrup?"
    -"so you want to put farmers out of business?"
    -"so we shouldnt have freedom of choice?"
    -"so you want more/less government?"

    this game is fun

    next up is the ad hominems - a group of angry maga manlets who only insult and never debate
    Hilarious that you made your very own strawman argument.






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    Another embarrassing post from the pretend lawyer.

    The left keeps going lower.
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    Neat thread.
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    Another embarrassing post from the pretend lawyer.

    The left keeps going lower.
    He might be one that snapped. I've seen it before. There was a lawyer who found out his wife was cheating on him with an FBI agent. He totally lost it.

    So for years in front of the Daley center, he would stand there in his suit, with a sign that said, "The FBI raped my wife." With this faraway gaze in his eyes.
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    In b4 all of the MAGA brahs come in here foaming at the mouth.


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    tbf I argue with logical fallacies all the time. They seem to make sense to me so I therefore consider all logical fallacies invalid.

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    Originally Posted by BOZZ View Post
    Interesting strategy you have. Begin discussion of the straw man with ad hominem.
    whats the fun of arguing without even a little ad hominem?

    the personal insult part is like 3% of my post
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    This is definitely worth it's own thread bro. You're completely mentally stable. Them walls are closing in.
    your response is im mentally unstable? thats an ad hominem

    classic maga brah
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Your arguement is "Hurr Durr, corn syrup," instead of blaming the parents. If you're a kid, and you're obese, it's your parents fault. If you're an adult, its your own damn fault. Take responsibility for your actions, and put down the **** food that you're stuffing your face with.

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    Originally Posted by rise21 View Post
    Hilarious that you made your very own strawman argument.






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    i dont think you realize it either
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    Another embarrassing post from the pretend lawyer.

    The left keeps going lower.
    im not a real lawyer and this post is embarrassing?

    thats an ad hominem dawg

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    He might be one that snapped. I've seen it before. There was a lawyer who found out his wife was cheating on him with an FBI agent. He totally lost it.

    So for years in front of the Daley center, he would stand there in his suit, with a sign that said, "The FBI raped my wife." With this faraway gaze in his eyes.
    when all else fails go with wild conspiracy theory and something something hillary biden obama
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when all else fails go with wild conspiracy theory and something something hillary biden obama
    yea because they are insignificant people and shouldn't be criticized

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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Just because you pour syrup on ****, doesn't make it pancakes.
    i actually agree with this

    i guess a broken squirrel finds spilled milk under the bridge, twice a day
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    100% Agree with the OP though. So many of the stances on issues that Trumpers take are riddled with hypocrisy and fueled by essentially propaganda that they can't really argue any other way.

    Funny thing I have noticed though is that even some of the strawmans the right constructs are still defensible. Which shows just how far away from reality they are.
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    Originally Posted by topperstyle View Post
    yea because they are insignificant people and shouldn't be criticized

    u right u right
    thank you topper for this PERFECT (and ironic) example of a straw man!

    i never said you cant criticize them! YOU said that! youre attacking a position you made up and then attributed to me! plz re-read OP for more info!
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    when all else fails go with wild conspiracy theory and something something hillary biden obama
    I didnt say anything about Hillary, Biden, or Obama.

    You're losing it man, you need help.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    This is definitely worth it's own thread bro. You're completely mentally stable. Them walls are closing in.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i dont think you realize it either
    What happened, no parking tickets to try and plea down today?

    Is this ad hom or a strawman? Or some combo of both?
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    100% Agree with the OP though. So many of the stances on issues that Trumpers take are riddled with hypocrisy and fueled by essentially propaganda that they can't really argue any other way.

    Funny thing I have noticed though is that even some of the strawmans the right constructs are still defensible. Which shows just how far away from reality they are.
    Aren't you the guy that gets owned with every post you make? You still believe those poor kids are drinking toilet water?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Aren't you the guy that gets owned with every post you make? You still believe those poor kids are drinking toilet water?
    What in fuks name are you talking about. Just earlier today I made a comment in a thread saying "the left isn't as obsessed with traditional family values as the right"

    You turned that into "so you agree the left has no morals and wants single mothers with multiple kids from different fathers?"

    Even in your Trump reality that cannot possibly count as "owning" me
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