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    At what point should one give up on women/love

    I've never really had a serious gf and relationships seem very alien to me. I'm too far behind the curve now at almost 32. The amount of effort and mental anguish i would need to put in to try to find a suitable long term marriage partner doesn't seem like it's worth it. I'm just not cut out for it. I have a good career and make good money, just ****ed in every other aspect of life. Is it time to accept that you are going to be FA for life. How can i still make my life enjoyable/fulfilling with no prospect of a wife or children?
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    I'm on the same boat,let things be!
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    Originally Posted by johnnyboi123 View Post
    I've never really had a serious gf and relationships seem very alien to me. I'm too far behind the curve now at almost 32. The amount of effort and mental anguish i would need to put in to try to find a suitable long term marriage partner doesn't seem like it's worth it. I'm just not cut out for it. I have a good career and make good money, just ****ed in every other aspect of life. Is it time to accept that you are going to be FA for life. How can i still make my life enjoyable/fulfilling with no prospect of a wife or children?
    if you make good money/good career then it should be fairly easy to attract a women whose looking to settle down at your age.
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    if you make good money/good career then it should be fairly easy to attract a women whose looking to settle down at your age.
    i dunno man. I'm a ****ing weirdo and have a huge self esteem problem. It seems impossible but i'm still trying as of now but not sure how long before i give up tho.

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    lol no bs, that actually crossed my mind.
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    Probably at the same point you’ve decided to give up on every thing else in your life.

    I’m pretty god damn close to just shutting it down, stop trying for anything, and wait out life to die.

    I’ll let you know how it goes
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    Originally Posted by MasterofPuppet9 View Post
    OP I got my first GF at 30, srs


    but I'm decent looking and have decent self esteem (got better and better recent years). My GF asked me out. She is 21, very bright, good girl
    I believe all of this
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    Seriously though OP, I feel ya brah. I’m so terrible at relationships. So far behind the curve as well.

    Not just with women, my relationships are terrible all over. Years of neglect to try to make myself stand out from the rest always focusing on myself and prioritizing social life last really truly f*cked me hard.

    I’m trying to fix it though. I have a side job that forces me to work one on one with people.

    I’m terrible at it. It’s agonizing really. But I guarantee I’ll get better at it.

    Granted I’m not doing this to get some girl, I just know it’s a very weak area I neglected for so long and I need to fix it all around.

    If you suck at relationships and are behind the curve like you say don’t run from him. Find a way to force yourself into them as much as you can. Yeah it’s gonna f*cking suck. And you’ll probably be miserable while you work your way through it. Maybe you don’t ever figure it out even, could be.

    Better than a lifetime of throwing in the towel though, that I know.
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    100% your fault

    - dont approach
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    Again, 100% your fault
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    If you haven’t been in a relationship and you’re over 25 then you will have to search a bit harder for a girl with similar inexperience. It’s hard to be in a relationship with someone who’s never been in one before

    If it bothers you a lot then your best decision would be to download a dating app and start connecting with girls online, if worst comes to worst you’ll need to just develop something you plan on ending somewhere 6 months down the line. Don’t let the other person invest too many emotions into you if you’re doing it like this, just push them back and they’ll understand what you’re doing. You’d be surprised how many people do this it’s almost subconscious.. You’re just training yourself up
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    Originally Posted by MasterofPuppet9 View Post
    OP I got my first GF at 30, srs


    but I'm decent looking and have decent self esteem (got better and better recent years). My GF asked me out. She is 21, very bright, good girl
    lol you're fuk. That hoe's gonna lose her mind by 24 and end up fuking some random guy on some random day even though she "in love" with you. Women have no emotional feelings towards men, they aren't worth the investment. If you are young and single with no kids and decent career, it's not worth investing in women. They are too much drama.
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    Dude what the ****. Shut the **** up and make goals and better yourself. Push yourself. Get a life coach. Go to therapy. You can ****ing do this. Even if you don’t believe in yourself, I do. Make a plan and ****ing execute it. Life is too short to live inside your comfort zone. Let the therapist or life coach or whoever your mentor and confidant is be your fuking launchpad to greatness. Getting women is easy, you just haven’t cracked the code. One you do you’ll look back and be like wtf it was that easy the whole time? I recommend you buy Zan Perrions book the Alabaster Girl and read that **** and sense his energy and embrace it. Trust me I have a ****ton of experience. We’re all going to make it.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Seriously though OP, I feel ya brah. I’m so terrible at relationships. So far behind the curve as well.

    Not just with women, my relationships are terrible all over. Years of neglect to try to make myself stand out from the rest always focusing on myself and prioritizing social life last really truly f*cked me hard.

    I’m trying to fix it though. I have a side job that forces me to work one on one with people.

    I’m terrible at it. It’s agonizing really. But I guarantee I’ll get better at it.

    Granted I’m not doing this to get some girl, I just know it’s a very weak area I neglected for so long and I need to fix it all around.

    If you suck at relationships and are behind the curve like you say don’t run from him. Find a way to force yourself into them as much as you can. Yeah it’s gonna f*cking suck. And you’ll probably be miserable while you work your way through it. Maybe you don’t ever figure it out even, could be.

    Better than a lifetime of throwing in the towel though, that I know.
    good attitude to have man. Keep at it.



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    100% your fault

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    - more scared of rejection than dying or having your dik cut off
    - dont lift / shred effectively
    - social skills on par with subhumans

    Again, 100% your fault
    i never said it wasn't . i don't blame anybody but myself. I have extreme fear of rejection and i need to get over it.
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    If you haven’t been in a relationship and you’re over 25 then you will have to search a bit harder for a girl with similar inexperience. It’s hard to be in a relationship with someone who’s never been in one before

    If it bothers you a lot then your best decision would be to download a dating app and start connecting with girls online, if worst comes to worst you’ll need to just develop something you plan on ending somewhere 6 months down the line. Don’t let the other person invest too many emotions into you if you’re doing it like this, just push them back and they’ll understand what you’re doing. You’d be surprised how many people do this it’s almost subconscious.. You’re just training yourself up
    This is bullsh*t advice

    Find someone with similar experience? Why? Just get after it and if the first one bombs you’ve then built some experience for the 2nd. Maybe that one bombs too. And the 3rd. And the 4th

    Eventually though you aren’t inexperienced any more.

    Some of you think you have to get it right the first time. You don’t and you probably won’t. Deal with it
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Probably at the same point you’ve decided to give up on every thing else in your life.

    I’m pretty god damn close to just shutting it down, stop trying for anything, and wait out life to die.

    I’ll let you know how it goes
    Hits that point might as well go walkabout or bet it all on black.

    How you feel about HTC OP?

    Mostly kidding.

    If you want kids and you have a good job maybe start there, just slow.

    Maybe volunteer for a mentor program. Or at a children's home. See if you have a general love of children (no p e d o) or if it is more wanting family.

    Could be you find a baby or child that will come to you through adoption or fostering.

    Or if it is a more general enjoyment of working with kids you could find a more fulfilling career path.
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    Originally Posted by GravityLee View Post
    100% your fault

    - dont approach
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    - dont lift / shred effectively
    - social skills on par with subhumans

    Again, 100% your fault
    to be fair someone could do or improve on all that and be unlucky enough to still not be able to get a gf
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    do not get a girlfriend

    Ths is a true story

    I just got and lost my first gf at 25 years old.

    I went to a strict all boys school. I had some hook ups at parties but that was it. I had never had a close relationship or even a friendship with a girl. Nothing,
    I was a loner at work and at uni. I hooked up with a few girls at partis but that was it

    I spent years jut focusing on my aessthetics


    I decided to use tinder afew years ago

    i had no idea what i was doing when i first started. I remember going out with girls who were really average because i was low confidence and it was so obvious they wanted to phuck me but i had no idea what to do.


    After going on a few tinder dates and getting a few one night stands

    i met this girl who seemed really cool, fun and she was into gym

    we went on a few dates and i started falling for her. Her personality was great.
    However i knew deep down to becareful she seemed slooty.

    I couldn't help myself though as i had never ever had this experience with a women. Cuddling her, holding her hand. Doing all the things i had dreamed of.


    Lost story short it lasted 7 months before she acted real dodgy and broke up with me got back together with me then was sleeping with some other dude. Pretty much ended in disaster. Left me heart broken and a bit damaged. Yea i'm a pussy but i still think about her. It was like pure extacy. Going to the beach and cuddling in the water etc.

    All my friends laugh at me for falling in love with a sloot and that i'm not really over her. I know deep down that "i'm better off without her" and she was no good and so on and so forth.

    But i'm not gonna lie, she was a light in my darkness. She was pure extacy. Now i'm back to being depressed and lonely all the time. I've dated other girls but that feeling just aint the same.

    I kinda wish i never met her and knew hwat it was like. my hair has also receded and my career is ****ed so i doubt i'll get a girl as attractive as her again..

    i wish i never got to experience love. It hurts too deep
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    100% your fault

    - dont approach
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    - dont lift / shred effectively
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    Again, 100% your fault
    Women don't have to do any of these things. Even fat and unattractive ones. Are you saying they deserve love more than men do?

    **** that OP, do you and let things be. Control your need for a woman, work on yourself, and the right one will come. In fact, there will probably be dozens of right ones that end up fighting for you.
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    Originally Posted by Tomohokk View Post
    Women don't have to do any of these things. Even fat and unattractive ones. Are you saying they deserve love more than men do?

    **** that OP, do you and let things be. Control your need for a woman, work on yourself, and the right one will come. In fact, there will probably be dozens of right ones that end up fighting for you.
    The whole self improvement to get a partner is just a very recent modern invention

    Imagine telling a man from the 50s to hold frame and read self help books to have a chance at becoming a family man LMAO
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    Originally Posted by Trillical View Post
    lol you're fuk. That hoe's gonna lose her mind by 24 and end up fuking some random guy on some random day even though she "in love" with you. Women have no emotional feelings towards men, they aren't worth the investment. If you are young and single with no kids and decent career, it's not worth investing in women. They are too much drama.
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    Hits that point might as well go walkabout or bet it all on black.

    How you feel about HTC OP?

    Mostly kidding.

    If you want kids and you have a good job maybe start there, just slow.

    Maybe volunteer for a mentor program. Or at a children's home. See if you have a general love of children (no p e d o) or if it is more wanting family.

    Could be you find a baby or child that will come to you through adoption or fostering.

    Or if it is a more general enjoyment of working with kids you could find a more fulfilling career path.
    Why would you raise kids that arent yours

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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    do not get a girlfriend

    Ths is a true story

    I just got and lost my first gf at 25 years old.

    I went to a strict all boys school. I had some hook ups at parties but that was it. I had never had a close relationship or even a friendship with a girl. Nothing,
    I was a loner at work and at uni. I hooked up with a few girls at partis but that was it

    I spent years jut focusing on my aessthetics


    I decided to use tinder afew years ago

    i had no idea what i was doing when i first started. I remember going out with girls who were really average because i was low confidence and it was so obvious they wanted to phuck me but i had no idea what to do.


    After going on a few tinder dates and getting a few one night stands

    i met this girl who seemed really cool, fun and she was into gym

    we went on a few dates and i started falling for her. Her personality was great.
    However i knew deep down to becareful she seemed slooty.

    I couldn't help myself though as i had never ever had this experience with a women. Cuddling her, holding her hand. Doing all the things i had dreamed of.


    Lost story short it lasted 7 months before she acted real dodgy and broke up with me got back together with me then was sleeping with some other dude. Pretty much ended in disaster. Left me heart broken and a bit damaged. Yea i'm a pussy but i still think about her. It was like pure extacy. Going to the beach and cuddling in the water etc.

    All my friends laugh at me for falling in love with a sloot and that i'm not really over her. I know deep down that "i'm better off without her" and she was no good and so on and so forth.

    But i'm not gonna lie, she was a light in my darkness. She was pure extacy. Now i'm back to being depressed and lonely all the time. I've dated other girls but that feeling just aint the same.

    I kinda wish i never met her and knew hwat it was like. my hair has also receded and my career is ****ed so i doubt i'll get a girl as attractive as her again..

    i wish i never got to experience love. It hurts too deep
    That was your first love bruh, it'll never feel the same. Just like the first time you got high or drunk, you were being introduced to something new for the very first time. My first gf was 2nd semester of freshman year of college two years ago. All the girls I've gotten with since I haven't felt the same spark that I did with my 1st. It'll always be like that.

    Not to say your next experiences won't be better or that you'll never love anyone more than you loved her, you'll just never feel that puppy love where you were so ignorant to how relationships actually work.
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    Originally Posted by 2RDEYE View Post
    to be fair someone could do or improve on all that and be unlucky enough to still not be able to get a gf
    Bull ****.

    I talk to a guy in a mechanical wheelchair and a guy with downs.

    Neither has ever hit on a girl in a wheelchair or a girl with downs. Men are their own worst enemy.
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    Originally Posted by Spartanize View Post
    The whole self improvement to get a partner is just a very recent modern invention

    Imagine telling a man from the 50s to hold frame and read self help books to have a chance at becoming a family man LMAO
    Well they didn't have to go to online forums and read self help books to learn how to become men. Men today are beta and kiss ass to women. My dad / granddad grew up in America during that era and masculinity was much more ingrained into them. The state of Europe and American men today... smh
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    do not get a girlfriend

    Ths is a true story

    I just got and lost my first gf at 25 years old.

    I went to a strict all boys school. I had some hook ups at parties but that was it. I had never had a close relationship or even a friendship with a girl. Nothing,
    I was a loner at work and at uni. I hooked up with a few girls at partis but that was it

    I spent years jut focusing on my aessthetics


    I decided to use tinder afew years ago

    i had no idea what i was doing when i first started. I remember going out with girls who were really average because i was low confidence and it was so obvious they wanted to phuck me but i had no idea what to do.


    After going on a few tinder dates and getting a few one night stands

    i met this girl who seemed really cool, fun and she was into gym

    we went on a few dates and i started falling for her. Her personality was great.
    However i knew deep down to becareful she seemed slooty.

    I couldn't help myself though as i had never ever had this experience with a women. Cuddling her, holding her hand. Doing all the things i had dreamed of.


    Lost story short it lasted 7 months before she acted real dodgy and broke up with me got back together with me then was sleeping with some other dude. Pretty much ended in disaster. Left me heart broken and a bit damaged. Yea i'm a pussy but i still think about her. It was like pure extacy. Going to the beach and cuddling in the water etc.

    All my friends laugh at me for falling in love with a sloot and that i'm not really over her. I know deep down that "i'm better off without her" and she was no good and so on and so forth.

    But i'm not gonna lie, she was a light in my darkness. She was pure extacy. Now i'm back to being depressed and lonely all the time. I've dated other girls but that feeling just aint the same.

    I kinda wish i never met her and knew hwat it was like. my hair has also receded and my career is ****ed so i doubt i'll get a girl as attractive as her again..

    i wish i never got to experience love. It hurts too deep
    Keep moving forward man, break ups suck but your heart hardens with each one as you get older...until one day you wake up and you're a calloused, jaded man who just dgaf anymore.
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    Why would you raise kids that arent yours
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