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    Replace the word China with America and tell me what changes.
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    It's not really much of secret now days. CCP is a threat to freedom and democracy. That's a known fact and should be common sense.
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    It's not really much of secret now days. CCP is a threat to freedom and democracy. That's a known fact and should be common sense.
    Truth. Add the US government in there as well.
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    It's not really much of secret now days. CCP is a threat to freedom and democracy. That's a known fact and should be common sense.
    I’m getting the feeling certain people don’t see it.

    Can’t wait for China the put its boot on the world’s neck. The number of genders and your worthless degrees won’t save you then.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Truth. Add the US government in there as well.
    Nope. CCP is 100000000000000 times worse.
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    Nope. CCP is 100000000000000 times worse.
    Eh. They are more oppressive, but the US govt kills more people overall.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Eh. They are more oppressive, but the US govt kills more people overall.

    Every established country on the planet has blood on their hands. The point is the Chinese govt has complete control over their citizens and can't simply be voted out since "dissent" can be punishable by death and imprisonment.

    Regarding who killed more people overall, which country has been around longer? You don't think the Chinese are capable of war and atrocities? Without the U.S being in the position it's currently in, China would be asserting far more power and influence with complete control within their own region.
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    Has OP been to China in the last 20 years? The certainly aren't our friend but
    IMO they are much more interested in making money than promoting some dumb ideology.
    All the Chinese students are busy studying STEM not liberal arts. Disney has done more to
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    Originally Posted by Thankless View Post
    Every established country on the planet has blood on their hands. The point is the Chinese govt has complete control over their citizens and can't simply be voted out since "dissent" can be punishable by death and imprisonment.

    Regarding who killed more people overall, which country has been around longer? You don't think the Chinese are capable of war and atrocities? Without the U.S being in the position it's currently in, China would be asserting far more power and influence with complete control within their own region.
    I mean in recent years. If we look all the way back, ofc China is worse. That being said, China has more people so if we're being objective, I would rather see China prosper, preferably not at our expense too much tho. Srs.
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    Would love to know the true death count from the Cultural Revolution - 20+ million?

    And what makes China dangerous is that they have no intention of sharing the top of the mountain with anyone and they are a rapidly rising authoritarian super power with no accountability to its citizens.

    That's the point of the threads I make, to keep people up to date with evolving trends.
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    Would love to know the true death count from the Cultural Revolution - 20+ million?

    And what makes China dangerous is that they have no intention of sharing the top of the mountain with anyone and they are a rapidly rising authoritarian super power with no accountability to its citizens.

    That's the point of the threads I make, to keep people up to date with evolving trends.
    You treat China as if it is some singular hivemind. You also act like the entire world is a zero sum game that the US must win.

    If you want the Chinese govt to change, then we should open up and continue to exchange ideas and influence them gently through cooperation and prosperity, not conflict.
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    Originally Posted by gregxy View Post
    Has OP been to China in the last 20 years? The certainly aren't our friend but
    IMO they are much more interested in making money than promoting some dumb ideology.
    All the Chinese students are busy studying STEM not liberal arts. Disney has done more to
    destroy American values than China.

    If you lived there said this about their "ideology" publicly you would likely have your life ruined. and of course the average citizen just like those of any nation would want their children to get a real education.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    You treat China as if it is some singular hivemind. You also act like the entire world is a zero sum game that the US must win.

    If you want the Chinese govt to change, then we should open up and continue to exchange ideas and influence them gently through cooperation and prosperity, not conflict.
    Wincel, you're an idiot.
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    If you lived there said this about their "ideology" publicly you would likely have your life ruined. You can't promote or force anyone to fall in line without power which requires money.
    And how is that different from the US?
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    And how is that different from the US?

    Because of the control their overreaching government has over their people domestically and abroad.

    and in the U.S the govt won't ruin your life over an idealogy unless of course our govt is controlled by the Democrats as we've seen by the IRS for example.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Wincel, you're an idiot.
    Wow thank you for that well reasoned and convincing argument.
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    Because of the control their overreaching government has over their people domestically and abroad.
    umm...And how is that different from the US? Have you seen our mass surveillance programs and foreign interventions?

    We literally arm terrorists, install dictators, and murder union leaders and protesters on behalf of corporate interests.
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    Originally Posted by Thankless View Post
    Because of the control their overreaching government has over their people domestically and abroad.
    There is no point trying to debate anything with him, his brain is 1 dimensional and single tracked with a short bus being the only thing transporting electric impulses between the two neurons in his head.
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    umm...And how is that different from the US? Have you seen our mass surveillance programs and foreign interventions?

    Yes I have. Have you seen China's?
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    There is no point trying to debate anything with him, his brain is 1 dimensional and single tracked with a short bus being the only thing transporting electric impulses between the two neurons in his head.
    Lol Rob. Another well thought out argument. It makes sense that you want a war since you're in the arms dealing business. Went from aerospace engineering to arms dealing. Sad.
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    Originally Posted by Thankless View Post
    Yes I have. Have you seen China's?
    Yeah. It's not even on the same level as ours though. Makes me wonder if ours was actually made for China. Can't find any cases of the NSA having actually stopped any kind of terrorist attack with their program. Seems they sell their info to wall st and god knows who else.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    umm...And how is that different from the US? Have you seen our mass surveillance programs and foreign interventions?

    We literally arm terrorists, install dictators, and murder union leaders and protesters on behalf of corporate interests.
    But you are an idiot though. I can say whatever I want about any us politician and not face a single punitive action. Not true in Winnie the Pooh’s land.

    If you think China and the US are similar you are either a Chinese psyops plant meant to spread dissension or a complete fukin moron. Either way you really even worth the time it took me to write all this.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Yeah. It's not even on the same level as ours though. Makes me wonder if ours was actually made for China. Can't find any cases of the NSA having actually stopped any kind of terrorist attack with their program. Seems they sell their info to wall st and god knows who else.

    You can't stop technology. We can of course vote in politicians to put in laws that limit the scope and use by the government against it's own citizenry, one that actually punishes the unlawful use of it. Try doing that in China
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    Originally Posted by Holyfenix View Post
    But you are an idiot though. I can say whatever I want about any us politician and not face a single punitive action. Not true in Winnie the Pooh’s land.

    If you think China and the US are similar you are either a Chinese psyops plant meant to spread dissension or a complete fukin moron. Either way you really even worth the time it took me to write all this.
    Really?





    Read about Operation Northwoods, Operation Condor, Operation PBSUCCESS, Operation Ajax...Go look at PNAC and the Wolfowitz doctrine.

    You think the US Govt is clean? Fkn lmao. We have caused insane amounts of suffering both overseas and domestically. The US govt has covered for corporations to pollute the environment and cause babies to be born with birth defects. Look at how many people died in our foreign interventions and wars.

    I think they are both awful in different ways. I think our government is actually the most dangerous government on the planet right now. I think we are the greatest threat to freedom and peace this world has ever seen.
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Really?





    Read about Operation Northwoods, Operation Condor, Operation PBSUCCESS, Operation Ajax...Go look at PNAC and the Wolfowitz doctrine.

    You think the US Govt is clean? Fkn lmao. We have caused insane amounts of suffering both overseas and domestically. The US govt has covered for corporations to pollute the environment and cause babies to be born with birth defects. Look at how many people died in our foreign interventions and wars.


    Are you sitting in a federal prison right now?
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