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    Setting aside your own personal bias, on Impeachment

    How would you say the general public is perceiving it all?

    I think the average person who casually pays attention to news is getting tired of “impeachment” talk. For 3 years now we have been told it’s going to happen. I would say most people want to just Vote in the election to decide.
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    That is exactly how everyone feels.
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    As a dem I think it’s a mistake. The senate won’t vote to remove him and he will then run around using that as some kind of vindication to his base. What dems need to do is get behind someone who can beat him in 2020. When he’s out of office New York and probably many other states will tear him apart.
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    As an independent and someone that doesn't pay much attention, It all sounds stupid to me. I still can't figure out what he really did wrong. It sounds way to small to be impeachable.
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    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    As a dem I think it’s a mistake. The senate won’t vote to remove him and he will then run around using that as some kind of vindication to his base. What dems need to do is get behind someone who can beat him in 2020. When he’s out of office New York and probably many other states will tear him apart.
    The problem is, they don't have anyone and they know it. All they have is their media propaganda machine and that is starting to lose it's effect as more and more people are waking up to it...
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    I think the average person wishes the media would just stfu about Trump.


    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    As a dem I think it’s a mistake. The senate won’t vote to remove him and he will then run around using that as some kind of vindication to his base. What dems need to do is get behind someone who can beat him in 2020. When he’s out of office New York and probably many other states will tear him apart.
    They know they don't have a good candidate so they want to drag this on as long as possible to smear him. Basically knock him down instead of building themselves up (won't work).
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    I'm sure the majority realize its a partisan battle. The Dems have very clearly been trying to get him out since Day 1. Aside from the partisan battle, a big issue I have is their misrepresentation of some of the stuff Trump says or does. He has PLENTY of stuff that you can genuinely criticize. But they started mixing that in with their own strawman representation of things he says (i.e. "all mexicans are murderers and rapists" and the "muslim ban"). Media doesn't help the Dems at all either in this when they are covering things like Covfefe and 2 Scoop-gate. Especially the fringe ones that legitimately compare him to Hitler. They've created a boy who cries wolf atmosphere for themselves which I think will have the opposite effect of what they want.

    To me, this whole charade exposes neither side should have any power. 1 was somehow bad enough that Donald Trump was able to win the nomination. The other thought it was a good idea to throw a rock as far left as they could and make that their new norm, which will cause them to lose AGAIN in 2020. All they needed was a moderate option, yet Bernie and Warren are 2 of the big 3. The 3rd is all over the damn place. The sad reality is that there are no more adults left in the room. Economic literacy is practically being advertised as not important anymore.
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    70% of Americans believe his actions were not ok. 51% think he committed a crime and should be removed from office.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    About tree fiddy Americans believe his actions were not ok. about 254 think he committed a crime and should be removed from office.
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    Originally Posted by pengh View Post
    As an independent and someone that doesn't pay much attention, It all sounds stupid to me. I still can't figure out what he really did wrong. It sounds way to small to be impeachable.
    Don't worry I'm sure the forum leftists will come in here and educate you that congress can impeach the president for any reason they want including that he got two scoops of ice cream.
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    I do not believe there is enough to impeach. His actions were unethical and improper, but are not grounds to remove him from the office.
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    I do not believe there is enough to impeach. His actions were unethical and improper, but are not grounds to remove him from the office.
    Only in our 2019 NPC clown world is investigating corruption "unethical"
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    Only in our 2019 NPC clown world is investigating corruption "unethical"
    Especially with a country that we have a signed treaty with of which the purpose is to combat corruption.

    Regarding Biden it's not like he publicly admitted the corruption and had a very fishy smelling issue with his son, oh wait he did.
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    Poll: Majority of Americans are closely following impeachment hearings and say Trump's actions were wrong

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/87914...-actions-wrong

    70% of Americans say Trump’s actions tied to Ukraine were wrong: Poll

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    Especially with a country that we have a signed treaty with of which the purpose is to combat corruption.

    Regarding Biden it's not like he publicly admitted the corruption and had a very fishy smelling issue with his son, oh wait he did.
    Nobody is above the law

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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    Nobody is above the law

    unless they're running against Trump
    hillary sat through 11 hours of gop grilling and still came out clean. trumpy cant even give written testimony without lying. You're so gone deep in your cult, its sad at this point.
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    Only in our 2019 NPC clown world is investigating corruption "unethical"
    Funny how "corruption" literally means only the Bidens.
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    Having a law enforcement background, I just don't see enough there to be wasting America's tax dollars on these proceedings. The longer it goes on, the longer Democrats and Republicans, both, aren't spending time writing and passing things to help the people. If there was something more concrete then by all means, impeach the fukker.
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    hillary sat through 11 hours of gop grilling and still came out clean. trumpy cant even give written testimony without lying. You're so gone deep in your cult, its sad at this point.
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    Funny how "corruption" literally means only the Bidens.
    just because there's only one scumbug on tape openly demanding Ukraine fire a prosecutor that was looking into his son's corruption, doesn't mean other people aren't being investigated
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    its been weird political times for a while but honestly if you believe based on the evidence that trump used the presidency to withhold military aide to a foreign nation in exchange for that nation investigating a personal political rival, then that's corrupt af and totally impeachable, imo
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    70% of Americans believe his actions were not ok. 51% think he committed a crime and should be removed from office.
    No they don't.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    its been weird political times for a while but honestly if you believe based on the no evidence that trump used the presidency to withhold military aide to a foreign nation in exchange for that nation investigating a personal political rival, then that's corrupt af and totally impeachable, imo
    Except that there is no evidence, only 5th hand heresy.
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    Originally Posted by pengh View Post
    As an independent and someone that doesn't pay much attention, It all sounds stupid to me. I still can't figure out what he really did wrong. It sounds way to small to be impeachable.
    I'd assume this sentiment is echoed by most rational people.
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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    Except that there is no evidence, only 5th hand heresy.
    thats fine and im sure you'd vote no. but the people who actually vote will review the evidence and determine for themselves whether or not they believe it, and whether or not to impeach.

    im sure some people would disagree that's there's no evidence.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    thats fine and im sure you'd vote no. but the people who actually vote will review the evidence and determine for themselves whether or not they believe it, and whether or not to impeach.

    im sure some people would disagree that's there's no evidence.
    No, there isn't any evidence, I'm sure TDS Cultists will disagree but it won't matter because most people don't even know or care about impeachment anyway.
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    From what I see no. One trusts anything that comes out from either side. That includes the Dems, Trump, WH, or any news agency. The one thing that people see or ask themselves is why can’t Trump just chill and not get himself into situations like this. Like what did he hope to accomplish with his words with Ukraine, all it resulted in was him looking bad.
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    Only in our 2019 NPC clown world is investigating corruption "unethical"
    He used our government as a bargaining chip to aid in a requested investigation of his rival. I'm all for investigating Biden, but that was unethical. Impeachable? Not really, but unethical.
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    I saw a poll on MSN this morning that stated that even Millennials who did not favor Trump thought the impeachment was unfair. That's how ridiculous the whole thing is. The Dems overplayed their hand and had to go all in and its costing them big in the public eye.
    I also think Schiff was the absolute worse option for the Dems be the chairmen in this inquiry. The guy just looks so fuking weird and his mannerisms scream sociopath or something.
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