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    I know, cringe, his last avi was at least somewhat intimidating, even though it was a mask lol
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Guns are significantly more likely to be used defensively. It's not even close.
    30 rounds specifically designed to kill humans 300 yards.

    That we need...in our house
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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    False

    The stat you are referring too includes all gun deaths, which include suicides (which make up 2/3 of all gun deaths) police shootings, accidental and justifiable homicides. Based strictly on gun homicides the states with kess gun laws have less gun homicides.

    You are more likely to die from being a pussy than any of us gun owners are from guns

    because still deaths

    You can't 'no true gun death'.

    Beyond pathetic and unintelligent.

    Look at idk...Congo, swimming in AKs, chopped off heads, skulls everywhere.

    Maybe without all those rifles they would have been a little happier instead of all the self defense obviously happening
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    30 rounds specifically designed to kill humans 300 yards.

    That we need...in our house
    0-300 yds, but still effective to 500 depending on ammo.

    Yes, your home is between 0-300 yds.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    because still deaths

    You can't 'no true gun death'.

    Beyond pathetic and unintelligent.

    Look at idk...Congo, swimming in AKs, chopped off heads, skulls everywhere.

    Maybe without all those rifles they would have been a little happier instead of all the self defense obviously happening
    The level of retardation you exhibit is astounding
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    because still deaths

    You can't 'no true gun death'.

    Beyond pathetic and unintelligent.

    Look at idk...Congo, swimming in AKs, chopped off heads, skulls everywhere.

    Maybe without all those rifles they would have been a little happier instead of all the self defense obviously happening
    Generally speaking, individuals don't have arms. You're talking about a dictatorship run by warlords.




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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    Generally speaking, individuals don't have arms. You're talking about a dictatorship run by warlords.




    How do you like your front grip? I have never used one, Iv been trained to use my sling as a grip.
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    No we are not.
    Seeing as how you legally can't own a gun, you don't really count.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    How do you like your front grip? I have never used one, Iv been trained to use my sling as a grip.
    The rifle in my Avi is a Mk14EBR.

    It's very wide at the foreend, so the VFG is really nice. I don't use it like grip, more like a hand stop.
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    Killing doesn't make you equal.

    It means you failed in the hardest way.

    I have zero respect for your boomstick... would snatch it out of your hand, trip you and throw it in a river.

    If you want to be equal, then save a life. Your life was given to you for free.

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    i think nukes make us all equal so everyone should be pro nuke
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    The media has a lot to do with the current hysteria over firearms.

    Here is a video of an Australian guy walking through the streets with a rifle in the 70s and no one even gives a damn.

    Yet it took just one mass shooting to disarm the entire population. Crazy.

    Some have suggested Australia was a beta testing ground for a false flag event by the CIA to disarm the population in the US.


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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i think nukes make us all equal so everyone should be pro nuke
    Why shouldnt law abiding citizens own nukes?
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    The media has a lot to do with the current hysteria over firearms.

    Here is a video of an Australian guy walking through the streets with a rifle in the 70s and no one even gives a damn.

    Yet it took just one mass shooting to disarm the entire population. Crazy.

    Some have suggested Australia was a beta testing ground for a false flag event by the CIA to disarm the population in the US.



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    Originally Posted by dhawkeye1980 View Post
    Why shouldnt law abiding citizens own nukes?
    i dunno man, i cant think of a single reason. frankly, if youre 18 you should have a nuke.

    all countries should have nukes, and all people in all countries

    nobody shouldnt have a nuke

    or chemical weapons

    or biological weapons

    frankly an aerosol smallpox bomb is really the only way to protect your family
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    gunz are good- phag way of thinking is not, GROW UP kids. we dont hurt nobody for BS
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    Guns don’t make you equal - Nothing makes you equal - we are not equal

    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
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    i sort of agree, but then it comes down to skill and gear. so its technically never going to be equal. the guys with more funding and training will win.
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    Guns don’t make you equal - Nothing makes you equal - we are not equal

    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
    lol have you stopped being a boomer all of sudden?
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    Originally Posted by davik View Post
    lol have you stopped being a boomer all of sudden?
    It’s not a level playing field, who promised you that

    So let’s say I have a gun and you have a gun, we now equal? We have the same motivations and ability to pull that trigger and take each other out ?

    what if you have a knife and you’re standing real close, but I have a rifle, who’s the most equal?

    I’m silent gen bby ...don’t give a fuk about all this social media chit
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    30 rounds specifically designed to kill humans 300 yards.

    That we need...in our house
    its not what you need to defend your house, its what you need to defend from government tyranny, you cuck3d smiling phaggot. You dont get it. You are soft. A product of too much comfort. Basically how rome fell. Keep coping beta. You and your kind will eventually erode us. Not me. But the country as a whole.
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    Originally Posted by 4ea View Post
    now you look here you fuking dumb fuktard, a firearm is not the same thing as a nuclear warhead or a chemical weapon.
    the second amendment gives the right to bear ALL ARMS, not just firearms

    as far as im concerned, nukes, landmines, gatling guns, explosive rounds, grenades, biological and chemical weapons are ALL TYPES OF ARMAMENTS that i think i have the constitutional right to possess without restriction or background checks of any kind

    dont tread on me bro
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i guess you hate the 2a then you communist

    how am i supposed to defend my family against armed invaders and government tyranny without nerve gas and engineered anthrax?

    you tell me how

    i'll wait

    unless of course you meant to tell me that the technical definition of what constitutes a permissible "arm" under the 2a is...subject to definition and interpretation?

    is that what you're saying?
    you stop home invaders with something like this



    talking bullsh_t about WMDs is ridiculous and does not prove your point, whatever it is...

    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    unless of course you meant to tell me that the technical definition of what constitutes a permissible "arm" under the 2a is...subject to definition and interpretation?

    is that what you're saying? that there are certain restrictions placed on the 2a?
    what im saying is that you are a delusional piece of sh_t who thinks that a rifle is the same level of power as a WMD. guess what genius, you cant kill millions of people instantly with a rifle. trying to equate a rifle to that is flawed thinking.

    and btw, the founding fathers did intend for the people to have access to the same types of weapons as the govt. i doubt they had nukes in mind when they wrote the constitution, but modern firearms yes, they absolutely intended for us to have them, and that would include machine guns, suppressors and short barrel rifles and shotguns.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Killing doesn't make you equal.

    It means you failed in the hardest way.

    I have zero respect for your boomstick... would snatch it out of your hand, trip you and throw it in a river.

    If you want to be equal, then save a life. Your life was given to you for free.

    Everyone dies. It means nothing.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    i guess you hate the 2a then you communist

    how am i supposed to defend my family against armed invaders and government tyranny without nerve gas and engineered anthrax?

    you tell me how

    i'll wait

    unless of course you meant to tell me that the technical definition of what constitutes a permissible "arm" under the 2a is...subject to definition and interpretation?

    is that what you're saying? that there are certain restrictions placed on the 2a?
    At the time the Constitution was written, it was legal to take a ship, load its decks with cannon, and sail where you wished.

    To be clear, a private citizen could own a ship that could bombard a harbor city into oblivion.

    NBC weapons pose a national security risk to the country.

    Small arms, even tanks, do not.

    The fact that you have to use a weapon which cannot be defensive in nature to make your argument shows that you have no argument.

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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    At the time the Constitution was written, it was legal to take a ship, load its decks with cannon, and sail where you wished.

    To be clear, a private citizen could own a ship that could bombard a harbor city into oblivion.

    NBC weapons pose a national security risk to the country.

    Small arms, even tanks, do not.

    The fact that you have to use a weapon which cannot be defensive in nature to make your argument shows that you have no argument.

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    Yep that lasted for a while too. I can't remember the name of the wild west vigilante group but they ended up powerful enough to have a field gun stationed on the roof of their HQ. They peacefully disbanded.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    It’s not a level playing field, who promised you that

    So let’s say I have a gun and you have a gun, we now equal? We have the same motivations and ability to pull that trigger and take each other out ?

    what if you have a knife and you’re standing real close, but I have a rifle, who’s the most equal?

    I’m silent gen bby ...don’t give a fuk about all this social media chit
    wow, i implied i agree. you are still a boomer in your thought processing i guess
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Guns make men and women equal.

    Guns make the weak and strong equal.

    If you are for equality you are pro guns.

    Change my mind...

    To get my uni degree I didn't need to own a gun. I learned ti shoot one but that's about it.

    I didn't need a gun to get any of the jobs I had.


    Women think they are more equal when they drive an SUV. But it's the men in HGV that don't stop on cycle lanes and wave me across when the road is clear and they can't go. The women just sit there and stare ahead.

    I get off the bike and cross the street in front of their SUV. If I scratch it - well bad luck.
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    Originally Posted by Ikeman83 View Post
    At the time the Constitution was written, it was legal to take a ship, load its decks with cannon, and sail where you wished.

    To be clear, a private citizen could own a ship that could bombard a harbor city into oblivion.

    NBC weapons pose a national security risk to the country.

    Small arms, even tanks, do not.

    The fact that you have to use a weapon which cannot be defensive in nature to make your argument shows that you have no argument.

    Thanks for playing.
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    On the other hand, the goal of insurrection as promoted by the Founders in the Declaration of Independence and other documents is not that ONE person could have the power to force his will on others, and/or destroy towns, and kill mass numbers of people. So there is a practical reason for why ordnance (and the sorts of mass-effect weapons that have been developed, from nerve gasses to nuclear weapons) are not in the hands of the individual.

    There is a balance here. We don't want one man to have the ability to wipe out a city because he's not happy. The individual with his rifle, or with his machine gun, grenades, and other anti-personnel weapons doesn't present a credible threat to society at large, and is not a compelling force for governmental change and/or resistance. But a large number of individuals all dedicated to one goal and armed with conventional arms may be so."
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