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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Killing doesn't make you equal.

    It means you failed in the hardest way.

    I have zero respect for your boomstick... would snatch it out of your hand, trip you and throw it in a river.

    If you want to be equal, then save a life. Your life was given to you for free.

    Everyone dies. It means nothing.
    GOO, it was just a couple of days ago you were talking about chopping off arms with your fuking sword. Give it a rest ffs..
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    Originally Posted by davik View Post
    wow, i implied i agree. you are still a boomer in your thought processing i guess
    No you didn’t you tool

    You said I wasn’t thinking like a boomer, you think boomers believe everyone’s equal? Isn’t the meme that they think every future generation is less than them

    so I’m really not sure what you thought you were implying but it wasn’t what I inferred
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    Guns don’t make you equal - Nothing makes you equal - we are not equal

    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
    They are what keeps the power in the hands of the people instead of the government.


    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    They are what keeps the power in the hands of the people instead of the government.


    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
    Its the prevention of totalitarianism in areas where gun rights exist.
    Thats a weird line of thinking, why would gun owners be magically transported to an oppressive state?
    The Hong Kong protestors would not be in the state that they're in if they had per-existing rights.
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    Originally Posted by AetasNitor View Post
    Its the prevention of totalitarianism in areas where gun rights exist.
    Thats a weird line of thinking, why would gun owners be magically transported to an oppressive state?
    The Hong Kong protestors would not be in the state that they're in if they had per-existing rights.
    So your government is only the government of the people and for the people because you’d shoot them in the head if they pass a rule you don’t like?

    You think guns, in the modern day, support govt?

    Explain?
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysFocus View Post
    its not what you need to defend your house, its what you need to defend from government tyranny, you cuck3d smiling phaggot. You dont get it. You are soft. A product of too much comfort. Basically how rome fell. Keep coping beta. You and your kind will eventually erode us. Not me. But the country as a whole.
    Guns don't prevent government tyranny. Lots of places are swarming in guns and their governments are ridiculous tyrannical.

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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    They are what keeps the power in the hands of the people instead of the government.


    The sooner people get that into their heads the better
    This is not at all true.
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    Originally Posted by whogotmuhbeers View Post
    You were one of those theatre arts kids in school huh?
    Philosophy and psychology. Never got into drama but was friends with those people. Best parties.

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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in
    Why do people believe that our own military would enforce these things? We swore an Oath to the people. Some dirtbags might defer, but our military, as a majority, is no threat to us. It would have to be an outside force.

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    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
    Of course not. Because they're unarmed in an established communist society. Not even a comparison in the slightest.
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    Originally Posted by Judgment View Post
    Why do people believe that our own military would enforce these things? We swore an Oath to the people. Some dirtbags might defer, but our military, as a majority, is no threat to us. It would have to be an outside force.
    Who is their commander in chief?

    What is the point of basic training, to install obedience to those in authority ?

    The military will act at the direction of those in power, because militia is based on those in power having more information and more understanding of what they are fighting for.



    Originally Posted by Judgment View Post
    Of course not. Because they're unarmed in an established communist society. Not even a comparison in the slightest.
    HK is not an established communist society. The power and might of the Chinese military would simply overpower the protestors should they be armed
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    Originally Posted by ipunchurgirl View Post
    A 130lb incel or wannabe gangster can kill any alpha dude who would KO them stiff if they threw hands like real men in less then a second with a gun, So yes guns definitely level the playing field
    Guns level the field, yes but you have to remember...In order to use a gun, you have to deploy it meaning if you are getting the crap beaten out of you and a person doesn't have any unarmed fighting skills the chances of getting the firearm out dwindle and even worse the person beating you could potentially use your own gun against you.

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    I'll just say this much; you have a liberal narrative painting gun owners as a potential threat and advocating draconian anti-gun legislation and at the same time, you have a gigantic media machine that churns out movies, tv shows, games, literature, entertainment etc that shows a good guy blasting away bad guys with all kinds of weapons. I find that rather ironic.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
    Maybe you should consider why they are trying to ban the guns that are used in the LEAST amount of violent crime. Why would they focus on those guns?
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    If you're a violent person that turns to violence over an argument you probably shouldn't own a firearm.
    This kind of contradicts your original premise.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Maybe you should consider why they are trying to ban the guns that are used in the LEAST amount of violent crime. Why would they focus on those guns?
    It’s pretty pointless when you have a society that worships guns, it’s embedded in an ancient constitution from a different time and it’s highly profitable industry with a massively powerful gun lobby
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
    What kind of logic is "Your domestic guns won't do a damn thing, so it's better to not have anything at all"

    btw fighting an insurgency of 100 million armed Americans is not as simple and easy as you think
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    That’s a weird flex. Do you actually think that? You think that your domestic guns will outgun the military and govt if you should suddenly be transported to some facist state and not the democracy you live in

    Do you think the Hong Kong protestors have the slightest chance against the chinese govt and military force ?
    See: Basically every guerrilla war in history

    Do you think the Chinese military invading Hong Kong is really a People keeping their own tyrannical government in check? Don't you mean, if the Chinese people were armed, would we even be having this discussion about invading Hong Kong? (doubt it)
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Guns don't prevent government tyranny. Lots of places are swarming in guns and their governments are ridiculous tyrannical.
    Name 3 places where any person can have a gun and normal people are "swimming in guns", but the government is tyrannical.
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    btw fighting an insurgency of 100 million armed Americans is not as simple and easy as you think
    Yeah, it's pretty simple.
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    What kind of logic is "Your domestic guns won't do a damn thing, so it's better to not have anything at all"

    btw fighting an insurgency of 100 million armed Americans is not as simple and easy as you think
    LOL and what would 100 million Americans come together so strongly against that they would actually take on the military and government?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Yeah, it's pretty simple.
    lol okay yea sure it is

    start slaughtering citizens and leveling American cities and see how that goes for you buddy
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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    Guns level the field, yes but you have to remember...In order to use a gun, you have to deploy it meaning if you are getting the crap beaten out of you and a person doesn't have any unarmed fighting skills the chances of getting the firearm out dwindle and even worse the person beating you could potentially use your own gun against you.

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    You are ready to provide a list of examples where this happened, yes? Millions of people carry every day in the US, and there are tens to hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in the US every year.

    So there are, what, tens to hundreds of thousands of examples of armed defenders havnig their own gun used against them annually, yes?

    How about an example? Shouldn't be hard to come up with a few thousand as its own stat, yearly...so how about you just come up with a few (like, as in three) from IDK let's be generous and say the past five years in the US.

    I'll wait.
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    Originally Posted by Rabbitjb View Post
    LOL and what would 100 million Americans come together so strongly against that they would actually take on the military and government?
    Whatever hypothetical it is, I can assure you that being armed in that situation is better than not
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    lol okay yea sure it is

    start slaughtering citizens and leveling American cities and see how that goes for you buddy
    You said 100 million insurgents are fighting the government. Explain in detail what that means then we'll get to the slaughtering citizens part.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You are ready to provide a list of examples where this happened, yes? Millions of people carry every day in the US, and there are tens to hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in the US every year.

    So there are, what, tens to hundreds of thousands of examples of armed defenders havnig their own gun used against them annually, yes?

    How about an example? Shouldn't be hard to come up with a few thousand as its own stat, yearly...so how about you just come up with a few (like, as in three) from IDK let's be generous and say the past five years in the US.

    I'll wait.
    All I said was that it was a potential risk, which it is.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You said 100 million insurgents are fighting the government. Explain in detail what that means then we'll get to the slaughtering citizens part.
    It means that there are potentially 100 million armed Americans to subdue if you want to implement some sort of totalitarian occupation
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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    All I said was that it was a potential risk, which it is.
    And your car's airbag killing you is a potential risk, would you please remove all of yours and provide some evidence of having done so? That's the smart play, right...to avoid that risk?

    No but really thank you for admitting that you pulled that out of your ass and it has no basis in reality as being armed clearly, demonstrably, objectively puts a victim of violent crime in a better position and reduces the odds of serious injury or death, with the armed defenders gun virtually never being used against them
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    It means that there are potentially 100 million armed Americans to subdue if you want to implement some sort of totalitarian occupation
    I understand that. Now explain the details of how and which targets being attacked, etc.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I understand that. Now explain the details of how and which targets being attacked, etc.
    I'm the one who said it WOULDN'T BE easy and simple and now you want me to explain the details of that?
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