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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    He was in office for 8 years, I know his schtick was to blame Bush for everything, but there comes a time where you have to accept the blame yourself.

    You going to blame Bush for him destabilizing Syria and Libya?
    Ok why were you not paying attention when Bear Stearns closed up and banks were not lending because of credit default swaps?
    Why dont you know or remeber this common sense stuff that we do?
    How long does it take to get out of a financial crisis like we experienced?
    If you can answer with no emotion, then I will respect your knowledge of economics.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Ok why were you not paying attention when Bear Stearns closed up and banks were not lending because of credit default swaps?
    Why dont you know or remeber this common sense stuff that we do?
    How long does it take to get out of a financial crisis like we experienced?
    If you can answer with no emotion, then I will respect your knowledge of economics.
    And its Bush's fault?

    When the student loan bubble bursts, who will people blame? Trump?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    And its Bush's fault?

    When the student loan bubble bursts, who will people blame? Trump?
    God you are so erudite and analytical.
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    wish there weren't political parties and every politician had a strict information campaign only and publicly funded.

    anyway, i don't see why any principled person would remain a republican unless they are ignorant.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    wish there weren't political parties and every politician had a strict information campaign only and publicly funded.

    anyway, i don't see why any principled person would remain a republican unless they are ignorant.
    And being a socialist makes one so principled and caring
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    My girlfriend and I moved from a moderately democratic area to a major liberal city.

    She was always pretty liberal. After 6 months being there she was like what in the ****ing world is happening and pretty much stopped talking about politics all together and doesn't vote lol.
    As someone who spent around eight years in Austin, I sympathize with this.
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    Get them a job which pays, instead of playing bongoes outside the local shopping wall while painting African art on the pavement
    I've actually seen this sorta chit...LMAO
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    Originally Posted by VBSurfer85 View Post
    Yup. Right here. Voted Obama twice and Hillary once. I now vote nothing but R and am fully behind the President and most of his agenda. I mostly attribute this to starting my own business over the past 2 years, becoming more involved with my religion, having 2 children, and just loving the way he taunts and trolls the other side. It's a thing of beauty. Can't wait for the liberal 2020 meltdown when Ole Man Joe gets his ass spanked by Trump. My ONLY issue with Trump is sometimes he just has to know when to shut up and walk away.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    What's the black unemployment rate right now? Lowest ever that's what.
    Thanks Obama!




    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    The national debt doubled under Obama. So who spends more?
    Either tell us what he spent that money on or stop repeating that lie.



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    Originally Posted by Bingu View Post
    Do you guys think it is possible to convert a democrat to a republican?
    If it happens it happens when they are in their 30s.

    The young ones are too afraid of stepping out of line with their friends and the old ones have devoted too much of their existence to the cult.

    A reasonably successful 30 YO starts to see the world a bit more clearly and can make the jump at this point.
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    Originally Posted by Bingu View Post
    i really dont think theres any convincing
    My mom switched over in her 40s. Mainly because of running 2 small businesses in California. And my dad operated his own business but was already republican.

    It’s definitely possible and I think happens all the time: people switching parties (goes both ways).
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    The democratic party is going so far left that it's doing that on it's own.

    The only ones still voting dem are the blue and green haired kids with facial piercings that act like they're oppressed even though they grew up in well-off families, but the expensive lib college their parents paid for convinced them rich people are bad.
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    Thanks Obama!


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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    He was in office for 8 years, I know his schtick was to blame Bush for everything, but there comes a time where you have to accept the blame yourself.

    You going to blame Bush for him destabilizing Syria and Libya?
    I didn't blame Bush for anything, just posted facts on government spending under different administrations.

    Good try at pivoting though.
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    I didn't blame Bush for anything, just posted facts on government spending under different administrations.

    Good try at pivoting though.
    So what was spending like under Obama? We were 10 trillion in debt when he took office, took hundreds of years to get there. By the time he left, we were 20 trillion in debt.....and nobody gives a ****.
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    Originally Posted by VBSurfer85 View Post
    Yup. Right here. Voted Obama twice and Hillary once. I now vote nothing but R and am fully behind the President and most of his agenda. I mostly attribute this to starting my own business over the past 2 years, becoming more involved with my religion, having 2 children, and just loving the way he taunts and trolls the other side. It's a thing of beauty. Can't wait for the liberal 2020 meltdown when Ole Man Joe gets his ass spanked by Trump. My ONLY issue with Trump is sometimes he just has to know when to shut up and walk away.
    Becoming more involved with Religion which most claim are about peace, love, and forgiveness, turning the other cheek (unless you're old testament), having children which i wonder if you teach to be kind to others, but loving that the president of the country has the respect and decorum of an angry teen on the internet "trolling".

    Everyone does realize that eventually a democrat will be in charge even if its another 4 years or 8 years down the road, and the divisive nature that you all support will only bite you in the ass when it comes back the other way.
    That's not me rooting for it, as i think there are indeed plenty of crazy democrats, but the trolling being done to them now will only make it that much more crazy and worse when they eventually get power.

    At some point we need to scale back the "us vs them" mentality, because neither side is going anywhere and theres no simple lines to be drawn between where liberals and conservatives live. You guys criticized Obama plenty for being divisive, and Trump should be receiving equal criticism on this front as he has done little to unite the country.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    So what was spending like under Obama? We were 10 trillion in debt when he took office, took hundreds of years to get there. By the time he left, we were 20 trillion in debt.....and nobody gives a ****.
    What I said:

    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    The idea that Republicans are fiscally conservative is just a meaningless meme at this point. Sorry, but lol if you think that you will pay less in federal tax if Republicans are in control.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/opini...lon/index.html

    This goes back at least to Reagan. Republicans spend as much, if not more, than Democrats. They just don't pay as they go and shove the bill off on to the next administration.

    Hell, this was the real defining divide between Carter and Reagan. Carter was the one pushing cutting spending and austerity while Reagan wanted to let the good times roll.
    You are the one hot to infer that I am "blaming Bush" and "don't give a ****" about Obama's spending.

    Believe I've been clear on thinking both parties have been at fault. Though I don't think that Obama's spending can be judged equally against most other presidents.
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    Originally Posted by Jessejame5 View Post
    Its the Blue counties in Red states that account for those welfare stats dingus




    SNAP is a State level Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

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    ...is a Federal level Welfare\Socialist program that takes money from the hardworking/taxpaying Liberal/Democrat States and gives it to the Lazy/Welfare dependent Republican/Moocher States.

    See this chart....



    Rural areas are 95%+ White/Conservative and they vote Republican in exchange for $100 Billion in 'subsidies'(welfare/handouts/charity) that comes from the Democrat voting states.


    If I was POTUS I would sign an executive order that all Republicans/Conservatives had to take a bath, brush their tooth, and get a job.

    Mark my words....one day Liberals will 'shrug' and stop paying taxes until Conservatives grow up support themselves.
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post



    SNAP is a State level Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.

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    ...is a Federal level Welfare\Socialist program that takes money from the hardworking/taxpaying Liberal/Democrat States and gives it to the Lazy/Welfare dependent Republican/Moocher States.

    See this chart....



    Rural areas are 95%+ White/Conservative and they vote Republican in exchange for $100 Billion in 'subsidies'(welfare/handouts/charity) that comes from the Democrat voting states.


    If I was POTUS I would sign an executive order that all Republicans/Conservatives had to take a bath, brush their tooth, and get a job.

    Mark my words....one day Liberals will 'shrug' and stop paying taxes until Conservatives grow up support themselves.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Wow, and you accuse other people of lying?
    I normally make it a habit to ignore you but I’ll reply to this. Yes, just my wife made that. 275k base salary with an end of year 85k bonus (taxed at gift rate) got us paying more in taxes than most Americans make in a year.
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    And being a socialist makes one so principled and caring
    you keep calling democrats socialists, yet their proposals are things already present in many other modern nations. Is the world socialist in your eyes?
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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