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    You train your fellow americans to be ruthless cold blooded killers to keep your enemies away from you...

    and then you criticize them when they are very good at their job.
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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    You train your fellow americans to be ruthless cold blooded killers to keep your enemies away from you...

    and then you criticize them when they are very good at their job.
    This.

    I remember reading about a couple of Marine snipers who shot and killed a couple Taliban or Al Qaeda guys. They were being court martialed because they took photos with the dead bodies and pissed on them. So it's fine to put a bullet in the dudes heart for us (the government), but we will burn you if you over react emotionally a little to the enemy after he is dead.
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    Originally Posted by CalmWind View Post
    You train your fellow americans to be ruthless cold blooded killers to keep your enemies away from you...

    and then you criticize them when they are very good at their job.
    lol @ this one-hour-a-week Christian finding no problem with stabbing a prisoner to death with his hands tied behind his back.

    maybe you'll be joining him burning in hell. Sorry kid, murderers don't go to heaven according to Christ.
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    What about the allegations that he murdered a little girl and an old man, both of whom were civilians...

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    lol @ this one-hour-a-week Christian finding no problem with stabbing a prisoner to death with his hands tied behind his back.

    maybe you'll be joining him burning in hell. Sorry kid, murderers don't go to heaven according to Christ.
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    What about the allegations that he murdered a little girl and an old man, both of whom were civilians...

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    Those allegations from a whistleblower?
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    Originally Posted by scheal View Post
    Those allegations from a whistleblower?
    From decorated snipers in the armed forces who served this country...

    Also, several members of his own SEAL team said he had murdered people...

    Then one dude confessed and took the fall after being granted immunity...

    Reasonable doubt, fine. But you really shouldn't pretend the man's a hero. Based on the word of many other veterans, the guy is a piece of chit.

    I realize some ppl in this forum really REALLY hate muslims/brown people and to them, any dead muslim = a good thing, but this was pretty fuked. They charged him with the murder of the prisoner because that was what they could get him on. While the killing of the 15 year old terrorist prisoner is itself a violation of the Geneva conventions, that isn't the sole point. The point is that the dude is completely unhinged, likely a murderer, and definitely should not be wearing the colors of this country anymore in war.

    If you want to honor him for his service, fine. He needs tons of therapy and rehab. Srs. He's completely fuked in the head.

    Keep in mind that whatever "benefit of the doubt" you give him, you should also afford that to the many servicemen who testified against him.

    This is the wrong hill for you bigots to die on. SRS. You really are trying to defend the indefensible now.
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    Originally Posted by azzspankr View Post
    It's so odd when people celebrate thugs like Mike Brown who tried to kill a police officer but people are appalled at things that happen during a legit war.
    All a part of thr media conditioning. People love to pick apart peoples actions, during war, after the fact with a fine tooth comb. Dude stabbed a filthy terrorist who probably inflicted immeasurable pain on others lives by way of rape and murder, but these guys are mad at the guy who fought him and won? Its terrible.

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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    From decorated snipers in the armed forces who served this country...

    Also, several members of his own SEAL team said he had murdered people...

    Then one dude confessed and took the fall after being granted immunity...

    Reasonable doubt, fine. But you really shouldn't pretend the man's a hero. Based on the word of many other veterans, the guy is a piece of chit.

    I realize some ppl in this forum really REALLY hate muslims/brown people and to them, any dead muslim = a good thing, but this was pretty fuked. They charged him with the murder of the prisoner because that was what they could get him on. While the killing of the 15 year old terrorist prisoner is itself a violation of the Geneva conventions, that isn't the sole point. The point is that the dude is completely unhinged, likely a murderer, and definitely should not be wearing the colors of this country anymore in war.

    If you want to honor him for his service, fine. He needs tons of therapy and rehab. Srs. He's completely fuked in the head.

    Keep in mind that whatever "benefit of the doubt" you give him, you should also afford that to the many servicemen who testified against him.

    This is the wrong hill for you bigots to die on. SRS. You really are trying to defend the indefensible now.
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    What about the allegations that he murdered a little girl and an old man, both of whom were civilians...

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    He was found Not Guilty.
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    Originally Posted by 401Delta View Post
    He was found Not Guilty.
    He was found not guilty because someone confessed to it with immunity. That doesn't mean we should just ignore all the testimony of the other SEALs and snipers.

    Not guilty doesn't mean innocent.

    He had a fuking picture and a text bragging about it ffs.
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    He was found not guilty because someone confessed to it with immunity. That doesn't mean we should just ignore all the testimony of the other SEALs and snipers.

    Not guilty doesn't mean innocent.

    He had a fuking picture and a text bragging about it ffs.
    i too would gut an isis fighter like a fish and brag about my success in war. fuk those guys.
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    Originally Posted by EternaLovE View Post
    i too would gut an isis fighter like a fish and brag about my success in war. fuk those guys.
    Ok. He was a prisoner. That's a violation of international law for starters. It is also highly improper and unethical conduct. I am sure many people would be happy to gut you like a fish as well. It doesn't make it right.
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    ^^

    It's really hard to defend people not playing by the international "rules" when dealing with terrorist scum. Honestly not sure where I stand on the situation.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    ^^

    It's really hard to defend people not playing by the international "rules" when dealing with terrorist scum. Honestly not sure where I stand on the situation.
    Yeah uhh if we're just going to be exactly like them, then what is the fuking point? SEALs are supposed to be our most elite unit. They are supposed to be men of high ethical standards and character. They are not supposed to be savages and murderers. What Gallagher did, even simply snapping that photo, is dishonorable.
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    Yeah uhh if we're just going to be exactly like them, then what is the fuking point? SEALs are supposed to be our most elite unit. They are supposed to be men of high ethical standards and character. They are not supposed to be savages and murderers. What Gallagher did, even simply snapping that photo, is dishonorable.
    Having rogue members act occasionally dishonorably =/= be exactly like them
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    Yeah uhh if we're just going to be exactly like them, then what is the fuking point?
    To kill them. I think the point is to kill them. At least generally that is a good strategy when it comes to dealing with people who are intending on killing you. I at least am confident that the point isn't to show them how nice and righteous we are. That's why we sent these guys to sniper school instead of Sunday school.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Having rogue members act occasionally dishonorably =/= be exactly like them
    Do you think everyone who fights in ISIS beheads ppl and rapes women? We judge them on the actions of their worst.
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    Originally Posted by JMath View Post
    To kill them. I think the point is to kill them. At least generally that is a good strategy when it comes to dealing with people who are intending on killing you. I at least am confident that the point isn't to show them how nice and righteous we are. That's why we sent these guys to sniper school instead of Sunday school.
    Another potential option is to just leave their country, but I guess that is too obvious.

    As far as kill or be killed situations, that is fine. This guy was a wounded, unarmed prisoner. So it wasn't a kill or be killed situation. And you know that.
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    Another potential option is to just leave their country, but I guess that is too obvious.

    As far as kill or be killed situations, that is fine. This guy was a wounded, unarmed prisoner. So it wasn't a kill or be killed situation. And you know that.
    I am actually all for leaving the country. I know it would quickly revert back to how it was, but I don't care. We should leave.

    No, you're right. The guy was not actively a threat at that point. I still have very little remorse for the guy. He was an enemy combatant. He doesn't belong to some uniformed nations military. The guy wanted to fight and potentially die for his beliefs. He died for them.
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    I am actually all for leaving the country. I know it would quickly revert back to how it was, but I don't care. We should leave.

    No, you're right. The guy was not actively a threat at that point. I still have very little remorse for the guy. He was an enemy combatant. He doesn't belong to some uniformed nations military. The guy wanted to fight and potentially die for his beliefs. He died for them.
    I am looking at the consequence of not enforcing our laws. I am looking at the ethical circumstances of the situation. The type of actions taken by Gallagher do not enhance our national security or the stability of the species. They serve no real purpose.

    The goal of war, contrary to popular belief, is not to kill your enemy. Ask yourself what it means to win a war. Killing is not the goal. Killing is the means. You kill enough of the enemy that they lose morale and stop believing they can resist. They surrender and you win. That is the goal of war. We can never win these wars the way we are fighting them because if your goal is the eradication of all fundamentalist muslims who seek to carry out violence in the west, going and bombing several muslim countries, sanctioning them, and driving the friends and relatives of the victims to radicalization creates more enemies rather than fewer. Al Qaeda has more members now than before 9/11. We have failed miserably at winning the war because "killing the enemy" has created many more enemies.

    You might then be tempted to declare war on the entire recruiting pool of Islam and seek to kill every muslim. And let's assume you do. Well, there are then others who are friends of muslims who would be angered that you killed them, and they would join the fight. Okay, kill them too. Who is left? And how long will this take? When you go to war, you should have a specific objective.

    So I guess, I am wondering what is the objective in Iraq and how does it support our national security? The honest truth is we shouldn't be there at all. If you go into someone else's house and try to kill them, and they shoot you, it's your own damn fault for being there.
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    Do you think everyone who fights in ISIS beheads ppl and rapes women? We judge them on the actions of their worst.
    If enough do that that's the stereotype then they "good" isis fighters get lumped in with the bad there is no way for that not to be the case.
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    Originally Posted by Tulsi4prez View Post
    I am looking at the consequence of not enforcing our laws. I am looking at the ethical circumstances of the situation. The type of actions taken by Gallagher do not enhance our national security or the stability of the species. They serve no real purpose.
    We are no more threatened now than we were before his actions. You think someone out there who was set on chopping off American's heads on camera was getting close to having a change of heart, heard about Gallagher, and then decided to keep at it? You think Gallagher doing this has somehow caused a crazy uptick in recruiting for ISIS? No. People who meant the US harm before, still mean it. People who didn't, still are just living their lives.

    So what consequences will we see?
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    To recap:

    1) We want to stop terrorism so we
    2) Double down on sanctions that hurt and kill civilians and
    3) Invade and bomb countries, killing more civilians which
    4) Causes relatives of civilians to radicalize and
    5) Creates more support for terrorism abroad

    So, I guess my question is how does this help secure the objective of stopping terrorism?

    War is a useless tool for fighting terrorism. Diplomacy, counterterrorism, and propaganda are far more effective. Our military has made the problem worse. Why? Because you are all blinded by bigoted rage. You are letting your emotions interfere with objective analysis of the situation.
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    If enough do that that's the stereotype then they "good" isis fighters get lumped in with the bad there is no way for that not to be the case.
    Don't you think they stereotype US soldiers similarly? Don't you think propaganda plays a role here?
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    We are no more threatened now than we were before his actions. You think someone out there who was set on chopping off American's heads on camera was getting close to having a change of heart, heard about Gallagher, and then decided to keep at it? You think Gallagher doing this has somehow caused a crazy uptick in recruiting for ISIS? No. People who meant the US harm before, still mean it. People who didn't, still are just living their lives.

    So what consequences will we see?
    Absolutely. If I, an American, am filled with rage at Gallagher's actions, how do you think an ordinary civilian on the fence about joining ISIS might feel after hearing the story? It also sets a precedent. We do not honor law. IDK about you, but I want our military to be the most honorable. We are supposed to be just and fair. The rest of the world would follow us if we led by example. If we continue down this road, nobody will respect our military. In geopolitics, it is far better to be respected than feared. Fear leads to action taken against you.
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    A true win condition in the middle east would be the cessation of hostility from fundamentalists against the US. To achieve this, we should look specifically at resolving their main material grievances. One of them would be withdrawing from the middle east and leaving them to their resources and land, letting them sort out their sovereignty. The second would be to aid in some sort of just settlement for Palestine and to withdraw from blindly supporting Israel. If we did these things, apologized, and stayed away, after about 50 years or so, things would cool off. But we are rapidly galvanizing hatred for the US and creating entire generations that will continue to hate us and fight us if we do not change our foreign policy.

    Nothing we are doing in the Middle East enhances our security. Our government sold us out for defense companies, imperialists, and big oil. None of this makes the average American safer. It makes things worse, and one day, a fuking nuke will probably go off in NYC because people were too fuking stupid to see this coming.

    Ron Paul warned us about blowback from Clinton's actions. The sanctions on Iraq and military bombings...He knew what would be coming.

    We keep doing this, and the blowback will be worse, not better.

    The average muslim doesn't care if two dudes are buttfuking in San Francisco, thousands of miles across the ocean. He does care if his family can't get medicine, his country is invaded, more family is killed, and he watches us loot his oil and make deals with governments that oppress his people. He will then resolve to kill you. He'll lack an education and join with the only ideology he has ever known, Islam, and fight you. You'll then call him a terrorist and butcher his people further. All of this is wrong. We don't need to be over there. None of this had to happen. We made it happen, and we are making it worse.

    This isn't a right/left issue. It isn't democrat vs republican. This is a smart vs stupid issue, and right now the US is on the wrong side.
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