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    China's going to fuk us no matter what. So, some kind of deal for the positive psychological effect is better than no deal.
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    China's going to fuk us no matter what. So, some kind of deal for the positive psychological effect is better than no deal.
    In just 10 years time negatives of their one child policy is going to start causing big problems for them domestically.
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Be dialed into Trump tweets about the trade negotiations between China and the United States.

    It's going to keep trending down, there is no happy ending to this divorce (long term).

    I'm really curious to see what Trump does soon, he said the ball's in our court on whether we want the deal or not (RE: Phase 1).
    Also remember, Trump's provided an extension for talks before. He may do the same again, then go in dry after the Holidays and compound with the destruction occurring in Hong Kong to send a message.

    The 2nd Cold War has already begun.
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    well the kids will have graduated college and I'll see what they've left me in taxable accounts. In the tax deferred accounts I plan to keep on the rebalancing of my portfolio to be inline with my retirement horizon. I do believe we'll have a recession sooner rather than later (we're overdue) and I'm well positioned for it.
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    Keep investing, just never sell at the bottom
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    I'm investing in real estate moreso than the stock market but same concept
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    dont worry dude, we all know that no matter what, when the market crashes you'll blame the democrats

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    This week I moved 50% of portfolio into bonds. Regardless of my feelings for Trump, I'd rather lock in most gains and risk missing another 10% upside than a 40% downside. I've been doing this for the last couple years. If the market falls back 10%+, I'll start moving back into mostly equities.

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    Originally Posted by LargePeter View Post
    Are you an investor, do you swing trade, do you day trade?
    Invested a large sum and stared making monthly contributions from collected rent.

    If you've investing only, I can't help - but there are plenty of instruments and tactics out there that will allow you to make big money in a falling market if you swing or day trade. Learn about them.
    I used to day trade and did quite well, it was starting to consume my life so I had to quit.

    Optimally, I'd like to profit take and then get back in after the dust settles.

    Maybe I am overthinking it but I can easily see the late 2020 market being a train wreck.
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    Don’t fall for conservative fear mongering.
    Don't forget that things had plateaued at the end of Obama's presidency and he and others were telling everyone to brace for downturns, lower GDP, etc. Trump came along and said fcuk that, were getting 3+% growth. Obama said Trump didn't have a magic wand...

    And then trump comes in, shakes things up for that American is no longer the whipping boy of the world, and boom. An economy that everyone said was juiced is thriving. Funny how that works.

    I think there are important geopolitical aspects to the economy that most are overlooking. Trump is looking to do a complete financial reset, and he positioned for this from day 1. Tax cuts to encourage companies to stay or return to America. New trade deals that favor the US. Tariffs for china and others and doing big trade deals around china to squeeze them out of the equation or to get them to negotiate. USMCA, as soon as the dems get off their ass to sign it, says that 75% of cars are going to be made in north America. This will squeeze germany to get audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. factories over here if they want to keep the US market.

    Everything has been strategically done to improve our economy from day 1, despite resistance every step along the way. An establishment dem will destroy that faster than you can blink an eye.
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    Pointless question without knowing where you are in your portfolio. For example, if you are 30 years away from drawing from your portfolio, then of course you shouldn't reallocate due to something so insignificant as current political climate.
    Not 30, maybe 15 or so. We got started at an amazing time though, when the Dow was ~22,500. Pure coincidence that we are up this much but it is what it is and we are way ahead of projections.

    Like you are saying with the long game though, its an insignificant amount of time. If we pulled out in July 2020 and got back in January 2021 worst case we lose 6 months. Best case we profit take and buy back in at a lower point.
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    China's going to fuk us no matter what. So, some kind of deal for the positive psychological effect is better than no deal.
    China is feeling the burn. They thought they could get Trump to sign a **** deal considering the upcoming election, and trump said go pound sand. They are holding out hope that a dem will get into office and give them a cupcake deal. If Trump wins, we will beat China. That is our only hope. It takes huge nuts to go against china, and nobody on the left has anywhere close to it.
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    I’m pumping as much into the market as I can
    So are we and for now I think this is a good idea. I can see profit taking kicking in before the coming chitshow though.

    I am actually surprised that there aren't more people feeling uneasy about late 2020.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    This week I moved 50% of portfolio into bonds. Regardless of my feelings for Trump, I'd rather lock in most gains and risk missing another 10% upside than a 40% downside. I've been doing this for the last couple years. If the market falls back 10%+, I'll start moving back into mostly equities.

    As old as I am I'm getting pretty risk adverse. Thank goodness for social security.
    With the dem policies, do you think we will be able to fund social security well into the future? serious question. Where will the money come from to pay for all of our healthcare, all of the illegal immigrant healthcare, social security, the green new deal, etc?
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    dont worry dude, we all know that no matter what, when the market crashes you'll blame the democrats

    you're pre-mad about it
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    I have heard great things about investing with Vanguard funds. Do you just go to the site and invest from there, or do I need to go through an advisor?
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    Thankfully you didn't bore us with your investment in a bedside light in your grandmas basement
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    I have heard great things about investing with Vanguard funds. Do you just go to the site and invest from there, or do I need to go through an advisor?
    you go through the Vanguard site, no outside advisor needed.
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    With the dem policies, do you think we will be able to fund social security well into the future? serious question. Where will the money come from to pay for all of our healthcare, all of the illegal immigrant healthcare, social security, the green new deal, etc?
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    Saw the title and wondered why this was in R&P. Think that what appears to be the failure to repair the issues at the root of the 2008 crisis are a lot more worrisome than which party is in office.

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    What's more concerning is what negative interest rates signal. The idea that some investors have become so risk averse that they're willing to pay money to store capital in a safe-haven investment like a bond suggests a bleak outlook for the global economy.
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    Originally Posted by katya422 View Post
    Saw the title and wondered why this was in R&P. Think that what appears to be the failure to repair the issues at the root of the 2008 crisis are a lot more worrisome than which party is in office.
    Even stipulating that this is all true, wouldn't that make things even more vulnerable to a catalyst? If the market is on shaky ground and we elect someone making constant anti-wealthy statements, would that not start a selloff?
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