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    Thumbs up 24 states will raise the minimum wage in 2020

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/28/us/mi...rnd/index.html

    (CNN)Workers rejoice.

    The minimum wage is set to go up in 72 jurisdictions in 2020. The increases will be in 24 states and 48 cities and counties, according to the advocacy group National Employment Law Project.

    Most of those changes are set to begin on the first day of 2020, though New York's pay raise is set to begin December 31, the NELP reported.
    Record-high number of American workers have multiple jobs
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    Anybody with half a brain can figure out why a minimum wage shouldn’t exist at all, but liberals... just fuking ugh.
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    Pretty much what conservatives have said, it should be on the state level.
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    Imagine not being a high school kid and earning minium wage lol do you even professional skills?

    Although yay I guess for the ~2% of workers that earn minimum wage
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    OP bragging about getting a raise.
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    And the cult will credit the Orange Menace for wages increasing 1% faster than inflation when a large component of the increase is due to minimum wage increases which the cult are vehemently against.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    And the cult will credit the Orange Menace for wages increasing 1% faster than inflation when a large component of the increase is due to minimum wage increases which the cult are vehemently against.

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    I’ll compare net worth with you any day of the week old man.
    What's that got to do with anything? And aren't you in the family business?
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Tell us Tammy, should someone be able to support a family working as a greeter at Walmart?
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    46% of the country earn less than $30k annually. That's about $14.50 an hour. With so many companies paying so little for so many different kinds of jobs, what do you think the pay would be for jobs that pay minimum wage with no minimum wage?

    Companies will pay as little as they possibly can and the vast vast majority of US workers have zero bargaining power nor do they have skills that make them marketable on the open market.

    Those of you that worship at the alter of an unfettered free market need to do some freaking research and learn how the real world works.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Tell us Tammy, should someone be able to support a family working as a greeter at Walmart?
    'When businesses fail to pay their workers a living wage, workers increasingly depend on social services paid for by middle-class taxpayers. Bernie has called this “Welfare for Walmart.”

    What does “Welfare for Walmart” mean?
    There is record inequality where the top 1% controls 38.6% of America’s wealth.

    Bernie said, “At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, when the 3 wealthiest people in America own more wealth than the bottom 50 percent and when 52 percent of all new income goes to the top one percent, the American people are tired of subsidizing multi-billionaires who own some of the largest and most profitable corporations in America,”

    In a cynical defense of corporate welfare, commentators for a corporate lobbyist group suggest it would be cheaper to just pay the tax penalty than to pay workers a living wage.


    OK, but what does it have to do with Walmart specifically?
    The Walton family, Walmart’s largest shareholders, is the wealthiest family in America, estimated to be worth $175 billion.

    That’s more than 49 million American families’ net worths combined.

    Walmart is one of the largest, most profitable corporations in the United States, yet it does not pay their workers a living wage and keeps workers as part-time employees to avoid providing healthcare benefits. Many Walmart workers rely on Medicaid for health insurance and food stamps to feed their families which are paid for by taxpayers, at a cost of at least $6.2 billion each year.

    https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-minimum-wage/
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    46% of the country earn less than $30k annually. That's about $14.50 an hour. With so many companies paying so little for so many different kinds of jobs, what do you think the pay would be for jobs that pay minimum wage with no minimum wage?

    Companies will pay as little as they possibly can and the vast vast majority of US workers have zero bargaining power nor do they have skills that make them marketable on the open market.

    Those of you that worship at the alter of an unfettered free market need to do some freaking research and learn how the real world works.
    You believe that raising the minimum wage is the solution? You don't see a problem with your Democrats flooding the labor market with low skilled/unskilled labor with immigration? I'm sure you understand the economics of the Democrat immigration platform and what that means to the US workforce.

    edit: I want to mention that I acknowledge that many scumbag Republicans silently support open borders, but the Democrats actively try to tell us why we need open borders even if it is against our best interests.
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    Technically everyone making over minimum wage is getting a $1 per hour pay cut seeing as now their work is worth $1 per hour less. Unless of course they are also getting anther dollar an hour but you know thats not happening.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    46% of the country earn less than $30k annually. That's about $14.50 an hour. With so many companies paying so little for so many different kinds of jobs, what do you think the pay would be for jobs that pay minimum wage with no minimum wage?

    Companies will pay as little as they possibly can and the vast vast majority of US workers have zero bargaining power nor do they have skills that make them marketable on the open market.

    Those of you that worship at the alter of an unfettered free market need to do some freaking research and learn how the real world works.
    How much should a 30yr old with 3 kids who flips burgers in Mcdonalds be paid?
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    How much should a 30yr old with 3 kids who flips burgers in Mcdonalds be paid?
    Well with three kids it takes $60k to live comfortably, so $60k I guess. Unless you live in California, then they should make $100k.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    'When businesses fail to pay their workers a living wage, workers increasingly depend on social services paid for by middle-class taxpayers. Bernie has called this “Welfare for Walmart.”

    What does “Welfare for Walmart” mean?
    There is record inequality where the top 1% controls 38.6% of America’s wealth.

    Bernie said, “At a time of massive income and wealth inequality, when the 3 wealthiest people in America own more wealth than the bottom 50 percent and when 52 percent of all new income goes to the top one percent, the American people are tired of subsidizing multi-billionaires who own some of the largest and most profitable corporations in America,”

    In a cynical defense of corporate welfare, commentators for a corporate lobbyist group suggest it would be cheaper to just pay the tax penalty than to pay workers a living wage.


    OK, but what does it have to do with Walmart specifically?
    The Walton family, Walmart’s largest shareholders, is the wealthiest family in America, estimated to be worth $175 billion.

    That’s more than 49 million American families’ net worths combined.

    Walmart is one of the largest, most profitable corporations in the United States, yet it does not pay their workers a living wage and keeps workers as part-time employees to avoid providing healthcare benefits. Many Walmart workers rely on Medicaid for health insurance and food stamps to feed their families which are paid for by taxpayers, at a cost of at least $6.2 billion each year.

    https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-minimum-wage/
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    46% of the country earn less than $30k annually. That's about $14.50 an hour. With so many companies paying so little for so many different kinds of jobs, what do you think the pay would be for jobs that pay minimum wage with no minimum wage?

    Companies will pay as little as they possibly can and the vast vast majority of US workers have zero bargaining power nor do they have skills that make them marketable on the open market.

    Those of you that worship at the alter of an unfettered free market need to do some freaking research and learn how the real world works.
    What's your point? How much should a bagger make at Mariano's? Enough to support a family?
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    What's that got to do with anything? And aren't you in the family business?
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    Sick, i got another pay decrease. Meanwhile people with no college and/or no skill-sets are being paid more. Makes sense.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    What's your point? How much should a bagger make at Mariano's? Enough to support a family?
    My point is that companies have all the control right now. Employees have zero when in fact employers need employees but the employees as individual can't do chit.

    So if companies refuse to pay their work reasonable wages then yes, an increased minimum wage is needed.

    At one point in time workers literally risked their lives doing their jobs. That only changed when the government stepped in.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Sick, i got another pay decrease. Meanwhile people with no college and/or no skill-sets are being paid more. Makes sense.
    Pay decrease?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    My point is that companies have all the control right now. Employees have zero when in fact employers need employees but the employees as individual can't do chit.

    So if companies refuse to pay their work reasonable wages then yes, an increased minimum wage is needed.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    My point is that companies have all the control right now. Employees have zero when in fact employers need employees but the employees as individual can't do chit.

    So if companies refuse to pay their work reasonable wages then yes, an increased minimum wage is needed.

    At one point in time workers literally risked their lives doing their jobs. That only changed when the government stepped in.
    Are people being forced at gunpoint to work these jobs?

    You don't think that employers will possibly cut hours, or reduce benefits due to this minimum wage increase?
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    Originally Posted by jerrysprings2 View Post
    """"""""SillieBazzillie-My point is that companies have all the control right now. Employees have zero when in fact employers need employees but the employees as individual can't do chit.

    So if companies refuse to pay their work reasonable wages then yes, an increased minimum wage is needed.

    At one point in time workers literally risked their lives doing their jobs. That only changed when the government stepped in.""""""""""

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    Lol. Have you taken an Economics class before? Do you understand supply and demand? Do you think Mcdonalds has a monopoly on the employees of every city? Do you think if Mcdonalds paid 3 dollars an hour, people wouldn't go try and work somewhere else? Do you understand that businesses have an incentive to compete for the best employees? Good lord
    If McDonalds, Walmart, and everyone else only offered $3 per hour, what would you expect people to do?

    And lmfao at best employees when you're talking about interchangeable minimum wage workers.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Are people being forced at gunpoint to work these jobs?

    You don't think that employers will possibly cut hours, or reduce benefits due to this minimum wage increase?
    If people need jobs they'll take what they can get. And yes companies will do whatever they can to phuk employees and maintain their margins. The good outweighs the bad imho.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    You don't think that employers will possibly cut hours, or reduce benefits due to this minimum wage increase?
    Yes that's what they do because they're greedy, money-grubbing whores.

    Worth $150 billion and their employees have to live off government subsidies because any wage increase just cuts into shareholder profits and to them that's completely counterproductive.

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    So the median income in the US is just over 30k. That means if the min wage was raised to $15 tomorrow, half of all workers will suddenly make just minimum wage. There is still no requirement for an employer to give pay raises after that.

    The only way to force an employer to pay more is with proper market conditions. If the labor force has a constant supply of labor by mass immigration, there is never a shortage of labor. The value of labor stays low. If you aren't willing to do a job for a low wage, the employer will just find somebody that will since there will be plenty of labor available.

    I just can't understand how Democrat voters cry about low wages and cheer on mass immigration at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by SmillironS View Post
    Anybody with half a brain can figure out why a minimum wage shouldn’t exist at all, but liberals... just fuking ugh.
    i really actually understand the theory of a total free market but i dont think its best for america because it would only work in a free market thats also trustworthy where fraud, theft and abuse doesnt happen. that's why regulation is necessary - because men arent angels etc
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    Regulated to the point that small businesses are squeezed out and only larger corporations can flourish? I thought liberals hated corporations?
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Yes that's what they do because they're greedy, money-grubbing whores.

    Worth $150 billion and their employees have to live off government subsidies because any wage increase just cuts into shareholder profits and to them that's completely counterproductive.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/15/the-...ill-gates.html
    How much should a greeter at Walmart make? A job that is pretty much pointless. Hell, they can eliminate that job, and make a bigger profit.
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