Adam Schiff & The Dems - Ukrainian Peach Mint inquiry hearing thread

[SillieBazzillie]

No one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigation?

Sondland - "Yes”

"Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky," Sondland said. "Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President."

The very definition of QPQ boyos.

Now are you going to say that Rudy wasn't running around Ukraine running a shadow state department at the behest of Trump?

[SillieBazzillie]

This post shows that nothing well ever convince you otherwise.


Trump could literally cure cancer and you'd complain that he was racist against heart disease.

So, you think it's just a coincidence that Trump called Sundland the very day the House got the complain and actually used the words no QPQ?

Seriously?

[rampagefc77]

So the day the house gets the WB complaint Trump actuallys calls Sondland and SPECIFICALLY says NO QPQ, and you think that's evidence of his innocense?

bahahahahahahaha

"It was known by everyone!!!" except for the other people who have testified the exact opposite.

In a courtroom, hearsay isn't allowed. So when this goes to the senate and hearsay is removed, what factual evidence remains? The case is nonexistent.

Now if the case was on biden, where he is on tape bragging about pressuring Ukraine officials to fire the prosecutor investigating his family in exchange for a billion in aid, and giving them a 6 hour timeframe... we have some evidence there.

The fact that dems and witnesses are claiming that Biden's actions are fine by Trump's are impeachable shows the desperation by the dems. They have nothing left. They were going to impeach before the end of the first term as soon as they won the house. They just needed a topic to rally around... and this is what they chose? Yikes.

[SillieBazzillie]

"It was known by everyone!!!" except for the other people who have testified the exact opposite.

In a courtroom, hearsay isn't allowed. So when this goes to the senate and hearsay is removed, what factual evidence remains? The case is nonexistent.

Now if the case was on biden, where he is on tape bragging about pressuring Ukraine officials to fire the prosecutor investigating his family in exchange for a billion in aid, and giving them a 6 hour timeframe... we have some evidence there.

The fact that dems and witnesses are claiming that Biden's actions are fine by Trump's are impeachable shows the desperation by the dems. They have nothing left. They were going to impeach before the end of the first term as soon as they won the house. They just needed a topic to rally around... and this is what they chose? Yikes.

Do you think the only time people are convicted of crimes is when they themselves confess?

And Biden was implementing US backed policy. Trump was only worried about his own political benefit.

That's a NO NO.

[twovalvekid]

So, you think it's just a coincidence that Trump called Sundland the very day the House got the complain and actually used the words no QPQ?

Seriously?

Sorry sillie. There is so much bullchit, conjecture, and stories that don't match. Please go back to the CNN echo chamber.

[x-trainer ben]

So, you think it's just a coincidence that Trump called Sundland the very day the House got the complain and actually used the words no QPQ?

Seriously?

Fuuuuuuuuk no, we all know that he felt he "got away with it" in the Mueller investigation so he went right back to doing what he does.
Outsourcing shady activities to Russia/Ukr.

And as a few of the talking heads said last night, no one in politics directly gives orders in "shady activities".
What they do is use code words and phrases, Michael Cohen told us this, which tells you indirectly what they want done.

[rampagefc77]

"Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky," Sondland said. "Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President."

The very definition of QPQ boyos.

Now are you going to say that Rudy wasn't running around Ukraine running a shadow state department at the behest of Trump?

Guiliani was Trump's defense lawyer in the Russia case. His job was to figure out how the charges against his client came about, and Nellie Ohr specifically said she used Ukraine sources. He later learned that Ukranians were trying to get this info to the US for over a year and were getting turned down by corrupt folks who didn't want that info coming out.

You heard from every witness that they had no idea about ukraines involvement in the 2016 election, nor did they have any idea about biden's QPQ involving a billion dollars and a family member. And these were supposed to be our experts on Ukraine... is it any wonder that Trump and others began thinking these career swamp creatures weren't carrying out his policy and interfering with the exposure of illegal activities from 2016?

[SillieBazzillie]

Sorry sillie. There is so much bullchit, conjecture, and stories that don't match. Please go back to the CNN echo chamber.

Do you mind answering my question? Do you believe that Trump calling Sondland the day the House got the complaint and telling him no QPQ is proof that he didn't want to extort Ukraine?

[BuckNakedinBama]

The fact that dems and witnesses are claiming that Biden's actions are fine by Trump's are impeachable shows the desperation by the dems. They have nothing left. They were going to impeach before the end of the first term as soon as they won the house. They just needed a topic to rally around... and this is what they chose? Yikes.

Haven't you heard? Even though the POTUS is the one who, under the Constitution, sets US policy, he really doesn't...

It's perfectly fine to bribe a country with taxpayer money to shut down an investigation into family and political corruption because that's US policy.

But it's not ok to bribe a country with taxpayer money to open an investigation into family and political corruption because that's not US policy.

Although Trump didn't do the latter, that's just what he's accused of, STILL, even if he DID do the "terrible thing" he's accused of, that's all it is... it's really mindblowing how desperate they are.

[Titansfan08]

https://www.********.com/DonaldTrump...53242934850587

Lmao I love this man

[rampagefc77]

Do you think the only time people are convicted of crimes is when they themselves confess?

And Biden was implementing US backed policy. Trump was only worried about his own political benefit.

That's a NO NO.

So official US policy under Obama and Biden involved quid pro quos to force desperate foreign countries into doing what the US wanted? Isn't that exactly what the dems are accusing Trump of doing? But it was OK under Obama and biden?

So in the lead up to Biden's QPQ, we have burisma reaching out to the state department and leveraging hunter biden's name, we have calls between biden and Ukraine, and ultimately the request to get rid of the prosecutor. This prosecutor was apparently not hard enough on corruption, but he had just had the head of burisma's home raided and was going to go after hunter biden regarding money laundering through Cyprus... right.

What changed that made US policy state that the prosecutor needed to be fired within 6 hours? He had been on the job for a while... what changed? What did he do or not do that made it mandatory to get him out in 6 hours? Why didn't they demand it the month prior? Or the month before that? Surely you can explain the instigating event that led to such a drastic action being taken by Biden. Can't wait for your answer.

[AriGhold]

Sorry sillie. There is so much bullchit, conjecture, and stories that don't match. Please go back to the CNN echo chamber.

You want to keep this a right-wing echo chamber?

[Procta]

https://www.********.com/DonaldTrump...53242934850587

Lmao I love this man

lmao he is the best

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Any updates today? I heard Ukraine is closing in on drumpf. This is for sure the end this time!

[Mark1T]

March 2019

Nancy Pelosi:

“I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this, impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.”

[twovalvekid]

Do you mind answering my question? Do you believe that Trump calling Sondland the day the House got the complaint and telling him no QPQ is proof that he didn't want to extort Ukraine?

What's the point? Nothing will ever be good enough. I'm convinced most of you would rather see the country go into the toilet than actually try and do something constructive in politics.

There is literally a counter argument or story to everything i see. I can sit and watch 3 TVs at once, between 3 networks, and look across social media and literally see the same chit reported 10 different ways.

So no.

[x-trainer ben]

March 2019

Nancy Pelosi:

“I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this, impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.”

unless he does more new stuff in July.......

[XterraRob]

unless he does more new stuff in July.......

That is resulting in no fact-witnesses and isn't garnering bi-partisan support.......................................

[monty097]

No one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigation?

Sondland - "Yes”

Lol this.

Not sure what's so complicated that these fuking retards aren't understanding.

[Drinman]

Lol this.

Not sure what's so complicated that these fuking retards aren't understanding.

But.. but..but..but Schiff said that Sondland doesn't actually believe that










Goodbye Pat

[Stizzel]

Not to anyone. You contribute nothing to this site.

I presume what you mean is that you fuk goats

I presume from your neg that you also fuk sheep

[Procta]

[Stizzel]

"Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky," Sondland said. "Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President."

The very definition of QPQ boyos.

Now are you going to say that Rudy wasn't running around Ukraine running a shadow state department at the behest of Trump?

So giuliani never said donald trump was tying this aid to the investigation

[NYPat]

Here are actual texts between Sondland, Volker, and Bill Taylor. Where they CLEARLY discuss the aid and WH meeting being tied up until Zelensky publicly announces the investigation.

Sept 1

Bill Taylor: Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?

Gordon Sondland: Call me

This clearly demonstrates Sondlond knows he can't talk about the aid QPQ via text.



Sept 8 (in group chat with Taylor, Sondland, and Volker)

Bill Taylor: The nightmare is they give the interview and don’t get the security assistance. The Russians love it. (And I quit.)



Sept 9

Bill Taylor: The message to the Ukrainians (and Russians) we send with the decision on security assistance is key. With the hold, we have already shaken their faith in us. Thus my nightmare scenario.

Bill Taylor: Counting on you to be right about this interview, Gordon.

Gordon Sondland: Bill, I never said I was "right". I said we are where we are and believe we have identified the best pathway forward. Lets hope it works.

Bill Taylor: As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.

Gordon Sondland: Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks.



Taylor repeats his concern that military aid is being withheld for bad reasons – this time suggesting it’s “for help with a political campaign.” Sondland again suggests they talk about it rather than text, and delivers a lengthy defense of Trump that again suggests he’s mindful of who might see these texts one day.

This conversation, notably, came eight days after Taylor first raised this prospect, and he apparently hadn’t been disavowed of it during that time period.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e/?arc404=true

Bumping proof the aid was tied to the already admitted QPQ.

[x-trainer ben]

That is resulting in no fact-witnesses and isn't garnering bi-partisan support.......................................

uh huh, lol

"One of Rudy Giuliani’s indicted henchman wants to testify — and his attorney says he’s got “first-hand evidence.”

Federal prosecutors have issued subpoenas to Parnas and his associate Igor Fruman, and the Parnas has indicated that he wants to speak to congressional investigators."

[WrestlingFan123]

Since public sentiment did not sway Schiff will now move to hold at least one public hearing related to the obstruction portion of Mueller's SCO report

Is it finally 'Mueller Time!'?

[Retoaded]

Since public sentiment did not sway Schiff will now move to hold at least one public hearing related to the obstruction portion of Mueller's SCO report

Is it finally 'Mueller Time!'?

public sentiment did sway. in favor of Trump, especially among independents.

[Judgment]

Do you think the only time people are convicted of crimes is when they themselves confess?

And Biden was implementing US backed policy. Trump was only worried about his own political benefit.

That's a NO NO.

If this isn't proof of a biased-left echo chamber...

Also, have you heard of "reasonable doubt"? Plenty of people have it here. YOU have what is considered UNreasonable doubt.

[XterraRob]

uh huh, lol

"One of Rudy Giuliani’s indicted henchman wants to testify — and his attorney says he’s got “first-hand evidence.”

Federal prosecutors have issued subpoenas to Parnas and his associate Igor Fruman, and the Parnas has indicated that he wants to speak to congressional investigators."

Is that it?...

Oof.

[ghostfacedup]

America is winning right now. We are galvanized against the evil commies. So many are waking up to their treachery. No more.