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    Bulk or Lean Bulk?

    My goal is to hit a 315 power clean and 600 deadlift at around 185lbs, then lift 1x a week to maintain and spend the rest of my time on MMA. Maxes are 385 squat, 235x5 bench, 470 deadlift at 195lbs after 13 months of lifting. About 4 of those months were wasted trying to cut or missing weeks from being busy. Height: 6'1, age: 29.

    Can I get to my goal lean bulking or is a 600 deadlift not happening without a bloat? If I have to bloat, should I bite the bullet and bloat all the way to my strength goal? Would I be wasting time spinning my wheels doing cuts between bulks?

    I know there's a nutrition forum but it sucks and this is more about training than bodybuilding.
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    Lean bulk is the only way to go IMO for an intermediate/advanced lifter. I aim for 1 lb a month. It really helps minimize fat gain.



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    Originally Posted by TAWS6 View Post
    Lean bulk is the only way to go IMO for an intermediate/advanced lifter. I aim for 1 lb a month. It really helps minimize fat gain.
    That's definitely the case for aesthetics but I'm concerned about strength. I feel like as a natural at least, you might need to gain weight including a significant amount of fat to get stronger after a certain point.
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    Originally Posted by mobp View Post
    That's definitely the case for aesthetics but I'm concerned about strength. I feel like as a natural at least, you might need to gain weight including a significant amount of fat to get stronger after a certain point.
    I don’t think so man. Unless the lifter is just really skinny but in that situation he’s likely a novice.
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    6'1" 185lbs will be the limiting factor. That's gaining significant muscle while losing 10lbs from your current weight. Any reason why the weight restriction.
    160 lbs and jacked is about as impressive as D cups on a 300lb woman
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    Originally Posted by TAWS6 View Post
    I don’t think so man. Unless the lifter is just really skinny but in that situation he’s likely a novice.
    Good to hear someone else's experience. I only have my own experience to go off and I've only ever made good strength gains while eating a lot.

    Originally Posted by PurmaBulker1984 View Post
    6'1" 185lbs will be the limiting factor. That's gaining significant muscle while losing 10lbs from your current weight. Any reason why the weight restriction.
    Weight class sport. Also, I've weighed from 170-220 and felt that my agility and weight/power ratio was best around 185.
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