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    I want to be optimistic, and it’s also true it (cultural reset induced by mass awakening) can’t be done without optimism - if everyone cynically says it can’t be done, there’s a 0% chance it’ll be done.

    At the same time, it’s hard to believe a bottom-up movement will get it done, when the common people are unrepresented in every power structure. It has to have a top-down strategy too. So I think President Trump really is our only hope, because the powers that be won’t let another President Trump rise again.

    If he doesn’t succeed in his 8 years, we’ve lost forever.

    President Trump is not a once in a decade or generation leader. He’s a once in an age, and if he succeeds, he’ll rightfully find his place in the pantheon of simply the greatest, most consequential men to have ever existed in the history of our species.

    He stopped the exfiltration of American middle class wealth. All the leeches off of it, therefore, hate him: European socialists, Chi-coms, multinational corporations. Throw in military-industrial complex too that hates him for not being a warmonger.

    On top of the above parties’ direct opposition, he’s also treacherously undermined by his own Republican senators, many of whom are owned by China and multinational corporations. His senate minority leader is a snake.

    He’s almost completely alone, surrounded by enemies and traitors. The successes he’s had thus far, even if he ultimately fails, are mind boggling.
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    Thank God for Trump. But it might already be too late. We should have had him instead of Bill "The Chicom Cuck" Clinton.
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    I so want you to be right.

    We live in a time where some mental 16 year old rich girl sails across the Atlantic to abuse a bunch of grownups and blame them for her lack of childhood (but seriously hunny, we all wish you'd go back to playing with your barbies) and instead of smacking her bum and sending her to her room, she gets publicly celebrated as some type of "hero" and they build bloody statues/murals in her honour. What the actual ****?

    Or the msm telling us that the phrase "OK boomer" is now the greatest put down of all time, again what the actual ****? I got taught to respect my elders, but apparently now it's fashionable to abuse them just for being old.

    Jesus wept. This world is a mess.
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    nope i think most people are still unaware. its just nothing at the moment. nothings really happened the last few months
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    Oh well Trump and BJ Johnson.

    Clear deterioration of society and values.

    Keep them in power and things will get much worse.
    Quickly.

    The media is owned by Murdoch, a pal of Trump.

    Media whips up emotion, government buys more guns, arms dealers get rich and use their cash to buy gold to store, away from the economy.

    Trumps voters cry doomsday.
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    People are literally passing out flyers about mind control, social media, 5g internet, vaccines etc where I live. I wonder how many people read it or even cared lol. Want me to post it?
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    Originally Posted by irmocool View Post
    optimism is for babys, violence is for men

    Violence is for kids who can't control their emotions.
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    Originally Posted by heartlikeagrave View Post
    No, things are getting worst

    LOL at thinking degeneracy, liberal propeganda and social media have peaked. Not a chance.
    Yeah things are still accelerating in that regard but a counter force is growing.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    No, this isn't a despair thread. Exactly the opposite.

    We are winning. Trump was a catalyst. We are the ones that need to do the work.

    Here's why current culture is starting to crumble little by little:
    -Media completely degrades their reliability and validity
    -Exposure of agendas are becoming mainstream
    -Epstein movement created major public awareness to conspiracy and some validity to it.
    -Huge turn against republican shills and neocons being called out about Israel shilling
    -Huge switch starting against immigration
    -Push for religious/christian based values and principles
    -Questioning and disgust of LGBTQ and ****phile push in culture (fukking finally)
    -Political feuds exposed as nonsensical
    -The toxicity of porn is pushed mainstream
    -People finally have balls and are saying NO and being men
    -Lies and social shaming are losing its value, and no longer are people that afraid to say what's on their mind.

    Did I miss anything?

    Am I way off? Is it just me or is there something positive in the air here.
    Yes because you missed the only thing matters. The demographic shift(lead by LEGAL immigration) trumps all that.

    D control 90% of districts that have even a slight higher percentage of immigrants living in them than the national avg.(14%)

    Its not 60/40 where a strong R candidate with a great message can sway them, etc....90% is a permanent lock.

    In 2020 10% of all eligible voters will be foreign born. Trump beat Hillary 49-45% with American born citizens....and still lost by millions. The electoral college may still be able to overcome that in 2020, but by 2024, its game over.
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    Originally Posted by RIKTER View Post
    Yes because you missed the only thing matters. The demographic shift(lead by LEGAL immigration) trumps all that.

    D control 90% of districts that have even a slight higher percentage of immigrants living in them than the national avg.(14%)

    Its not 60/40 where a strong R candidate with a great message can sway them, etc....90% is a permanent lock.

    In 2020 10% of all eligible voters will be foreign born. Trump beat Hillary 49-45% with American born citizens....and still lost by millions. The electoral college may still be able to overcome that in 2020, but by 2024, its game over.
    lol this

    American conservatism is about to get obliterated by a demographic shift (minority white country by 2045, official language will probably be implemented and it will be Spanish). The white-only GOP is going to reach a point where they never win an election again until they change to a point where republicans truly embrace minorities. That means the American right is going to shift hardcore to the left, like countries like Canada, England, etc. It will have its conservatism (first and second amendments) but they will be weakened.

    What Trump did was bring to light a feeling many felt but no one was saying. Trump said it:

    White people and therefore the GOP are becoming less influential in American politics. Republicans are the minority and they know it, and it's only getting worse. This is why they lose the majority vote but win the electoral college.

    This is why AOC is the new boogeyman. She represents the future of America, and she will likely be President of the country one day. Conservatives and republicans know it.

    Imagine a democrat controlled house and senate, with AOC as president. What that America would look like.

    The fact that you think you're winning means you have no fuking clue what's going on in the big picture of human civilization and where we are in our history. The world is becoming hyper-globalized and will continue as technology advances. Particularly in travel and communication. The world is shifting away from borders and sovereignty toward a unified world government (UN, NATO and other multi-national organizations will be looked back upon as the part of this shift in it's infancy.). The left is a movement toward equality and as people continue to come together in the world they will see each other more equally. Just as they do in big cities which is why they are most often democrat/liberal.

    There's also the fact that capitalism is an unsustainable force. Movements by the left such as labor and environment are natural resistance to this system.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    By that point I mean that the current demoncrat vs Trump issues are non existent. They are made up and make no sense. Russia collusion, trying to smear everything he says by going against it, despite historically and on video pandering the exact opposite opinion, Ukraine impeachment inquiry (FKN LOL).

    It all means nothing. It has brought nothing. It's just constant bickering with nothing coming from it, which is why more people are starting to ask questions.

    People are realizing that current politics is hollow. We now have the internet that can find anything and expose everything, used as proof against lies and falsities.
    except the internet is also full of lies. Everyone is distrustful now of everyone and everything. There is a valid reason to be this way given everything going on, but not sure this makes for a better society.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    I'm not in rehab for a meth addiction.

    Zero evidence of the "THEORY" of evolution. Funny how they ignore the basis of science when talking about evolution. You can't reproduce the action of macro evolution in a lab, there is zero evidence of macro evolution, no transitional species, etc. They use inconceivable numbers to minimize questioning. "Millions and millions of years ago! Even Billions!" All you have to say is show me the evidence.

    I get it. We were all brainwashed as kids to believe this theory was factual and provable.
    the theory of evolution has infinitely more scientific evidence and credibility than whatever you believe. what - creationism? give me a break. evolution is the best theory we have. its creationism that has zero evidence.

    i mean what DO you believe?
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    the theory of evolution has infinitely more scientific evidence and credibility than whatever you believe. what - creationism? give me a break. evolution is the best theory we have. its creationism that has zero evidence.

    i mean what DO you believe?
    lmao holy fuk i didn't see that one. "You can't see evolution working over tens of thousands of years in a lab, it must be false." Read up on common ancestry. It makes far more sense that chimps, gorillas, monkey, organgutangs, neanderthals and humans emerged from a common ancestor than God plopped everything into existence in six days. Imagine thinking liberals and scientists planted dinosaur bones to keep the people enslaved.

    The cancerous right can't die out quick enough.
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    People are studying Trump, and probably someone will try to emulate his culture of personality for a much worse agenda...of unknown kind.

    He's proven that our institutions are not as solid as we might like to believe, and they are certainly going to be tested a lot harder in years to come.

    I hope we make it.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    I'm not in rehab for a meth addiction.

    Zero evidence of the "THEORY" of evolution. Funny how they ignore the basis of science when talking about evolution. You can't reproduce the action of macro evolution in a lab, there is zero evidence of macro evolution, no transitional species, etc. They use inconceivable numbers to minimize questioning. "Millions and millions of years ago! Even Billions!" All you have to say is show me the evidence.

    I get it. We were all brainwashed as kids to believe this theory was factual and provable.
    Breeding, fossil records, DNA, embryonic comparisons, medically resistant bacteria.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Breeding, fossil records, DNA, embryonic comparisons, medically resistant bacteria.
    There is zero evidence for macro evolution. Zero.

    Why are you guys conflating things like adaptation, micro evolution, and things you can observe in a lab, vs. something you cannot test, has zero physical evidence, and was started in the 18th century. They use millions of years as incomprehensible numerical guesses in order for you to submit to their superior intellect in the subject. Funny how guys above attack "Creationism," yet believe the entire universe and everything we know today was created from a big bang, and grew over billions of years of cell growth, form a THEORY that is 150 years old.

    I forgot though, science has never been used to subvert, sway, lie, or push agendas. It's all perfect and all the books that are ever changing and evolving are the life of knowledge!

    If you think idiotic shaming and attempts to demean intellect would work on me, I think you underestimate my intelligence.

    The pure lack of comprehension in this thread alone is hysterical.
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    Originally Posted by sandaltan View Post
    the theory of evolution has infinitely more scientific evidence and credibility than whatever you believe. what - creationism? give me a break. evolution is the best theory we have. its creationism that has zero evidence.

    i mean what DO you believe?
    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    lmao holy fuk i didn't see that one. "You can't see evolution working over tens of thousands of years in a lab, it must be false." Read up on common ancestry. It makes far more sense that chimps, gorillas, monkey, organgutangs, neanderthals and humans emerged from a common ancestor than God plopped everything into existence in six days. Imagine thinking liberals and scientists planted dinosaur bones to keep the people enslaved.

    The cancerous right can't die out quick enough.
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    Breeding, fossil records, DNA, embryonic comparisons, medically resistant bacteria.
    These x1000. OP attempts to sound "deep", but in reality appears to be oblivious to basic science, and is utterly out of his element. This is also the dude who was questioning the moon landings (lol). No one cares what some random miscer with zero or close to zero formal training in the subject thinks about evolution. The evidence of macroevolution is vast, obtainable from like a 5-second google search (no, I'm not going to list the evidence- while I've went this route in other threads, I'm not a personal research assistant ), but these types don't care about any of this. There is clear bias from *insert religious agenda here*. A common tactic is to denounce science generally (see how far that'll get you), usually from a 2-bit misunderstanding of it...as they ironically use the fruits of science- computers, phones, internet etc, in making the posts.

    Don't worry, we wont be waking up tomorrow to all the newspapers proclaiming: BREAKING NEWS: Some guy's post on the misc bodybuilding forum proves evolution wrong. The entire theory of evolution and common descent, supported by more than century's worth of methodological research, ridiculous amounts of data and evidence, and which now forms the very basis of modern biology, is completely nullified. Pack your bags scientists, close up the biology programs in all the universities and grad school programs, get rid of all the scientific studies and literature. It's all over. Just LOL.

    I sense a bitterness since creationism and ID has been ousted from the public school science classroom. The battle is long lost, and creationism is old news. Sorry, the earth is not <10,000 years old, despite the fact a non-trivial percentage of this board seems to believe this, as if they are posting from the dark ages. Evolution is not a debate in biology circles, nor has it been in over a century, as much as various fundamentalist religious groups attempt to artificially create some sort of "debate".
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    ^While I disagree with most religionists on evolution, nowhere in your post did you provide any proof to contradict him. You wrote a mountain of text, but left out the proof.

    DS, I admire the hope, but there is no great awakening. The left is using things like free college and free healthcare to buy votes and away young voters. The sentiment for these two things is growing, regardless of if or how they will be accomplished. The right will be known as the party who stood in the way of gay rights, marijuana legalization and who now stand in the way of trans rights, health care reform, and free college. The right has failed. Totally failed in providing a decent alternative to the left. Trump is a decent president and I'll be voting him come 11/2020 but the fact is that a large portion of this country is NOT better off than previous generations. Just as the left failed to take into account middle America and the rust belt and lost in 2016, the right has failed to take into account the future voting blocks of 2024. They will lose and badly. Trump's stand in calling China to heel and addressing the illegal immigration crisis is not enough. Tax breaks to the wealthy is not enough. The economy determines all, and if 2024 comes and we're not growing say goodbye to the republican party. Rikter and DukeofWoodbury have noted the demographics changes coming and that in itself is enough to turn the country blue. I cringe hard at all these MAGA folks laughing at Dem tears. They'll be crying soon if the party doesn't pull it's head out of its ass. We got lucky with Trump, who's going to stand in 2024-Cruz lol?
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    ^While I disagree with most religionists on evolution, nowhere in your post did you provide any proof to contradict him. You wrote a mountain of text, but left out the proof.
    Did you miss the part where I literally said I'm not a personal research assistant and this information is found with like a 5 second Google search? It's a waste of time reiterating specific examples in every single thread that comes up on the topic. Enroll in a biology major at your local community college if you really want to study up on it more. Plenty of in-depth books written by PhD trained biologists out there as well.

    Evolution will not be "decided" by mere wordy arguments on a bodybuilding forum with each side presenting arguments. This is not how science is done. Common descent is supported by vast evidence from diverse fields such as molecular biology, genetics, comparative anatomy/physiology, biochemistry, and paleontology.
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    No, this isn't a despair thread. Exactly the opposite.

    We are winning. Trump was a catalyst. We are the ones that need to do the work.

    Here's why current culture is starting to crumble little by little:
    -Media completely degrades their reliability and validity
    -Exposure of agendas are becoming mainstream
    -Epstein movement created major public awareness to conspiracy and some validity to it.
    -Huge turn against republican shills and neocons being called out about Israel shilling
    -Huge switch starting against immigration
    -Push for religious/christian based values and principles
    -Questioning and disgust of LGBTQ and ****phile push in culture (fukking finally)
    -Political feuds exposed as nonsensical
    -The toxicity of porn is pushed mainstream
    -People finally have balls and are saying NO and being men
    -Lies and social shaming are losing its value, and no longer are people that afraid to say what's on their mind.

    Did I miss anything?

    Am I way off? Is it just me or is there something positive in the air here.
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    Originally Posted by DeadlyStriker View Post
    There is zero evidence for macro evolution. Zero.

    Why are you guys conflating things like adaptation, micro evolution, and things you can observe in a lab, vs. something you cannot test, has zero physical evidence, and was started in the 18th century. They use millions of years as incomprehensible numerical guesses in order for you to submit to their superior intellect in the subject. Funny how guys above attack "Creationism," yet believe the entire universe and everything we know today was created from a big bang, and grew over billions of years of cell growth, form a THEORY that is 150 years old.

    I forgot though, science has never been used to subvert, sway, lie, or push agendas. It's all perfect and all the books that are ever changing and evolving are the life of knowledge!

    If you think idiotic shaming and attempts to demean intellect would work on me, I think you underestimate my intelligence.

    The pure lack of comprehension in this thread alone is hysterical.
    Brother, I did not mention creationism. To let you know my perspective, which may be useful to interpret my comments...I was raised a true believer, very Christian, and lost it.

    Years super atheist.

    And back to God.

    What you're missing imo is that abductive reasoning is what is used to decide evolution is probably true.

    Breeding, bacteria...fossil record. That is pretty conclusive evidence.

    DNA analysis...it's like...OK I'm not even kidding anymore I'm totally sure.

    You're quite insecure if you think I was shaming you by mentioning the reasons people accept the evolution idea.

    And you're right, first cause points to an unknown transcendent force...God.

    Imo...the existence of every moment is a likewise clue. Why doesn't reality simply stop?

    What provides the reasons of fundamental forces? They're called..."forces".

    Those also changed over time...necessarily.

    That's pretty strange.

    Consciousness is not deduced by a biomechanical functioning system...

    Still...imo, evolution is really what happened. I look at it like God trying literally everything.

    Compare DNA between animals...um...there's simply no better available explanation.

    It's not a slight to God to understand the Universe.

    What do you think God is up to while you're reading this?

    I'll tell you...

    Everything.
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    America will cease to exist as we know it in 50 years or less. That is just a fact for anyone who understands and can interpret the current trends.

    All great empires come and go, Egypt, Rome.....Ironically they all kind of declined the same way, by becoming a rabble.
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    America will cease to exist as we know it in 50 years or less. That is just a fact for anyone who understands and can interpret the current trends.

    All great empires come and go, Egypt, Rome.....Ironically they all kind of declined the same way, by becoming a rabble.
    You could be right and I'm afraid if we go out it will be with quite a bang.
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    Some literal dumb AF mofo could come to power through culture of personality, look around and say hey we have 2000 hydrogen weapons.

    I don't EVEN like...idk, Nigeria.

    Somebody in Nigeria called me stupid on the internet...let's nuke it.

    And then cascade of flying nuclear weapons because we all assume the worst and we're lucky if our cockroaches survive.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    You could be right and I'm afraid if we go out it will be with quite a bang.
    Seems inevitable that some kind of colossal event is closing in on us, you can just sense it.

    I think I might download some doomsday prepper episodes lol.
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    I don't even know how the world works when everyone is on different mind altering substances interacting with each other and the boomers have all of the money and land, while not doing anything and making the younger people work themselves to death. I dont know how there arent riots and protests everywhere. I dont even know anyone who seems happy anymore.
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    Seems inevitable that some kind of colossal event is closing in on us, you can just sense it.
    If you have been watching we are just starting to hear rumblings of human population in the conversations about climate.

    The stage is being set for it being not only OK but necessary to reduce the population.

    This is coinciding with it becoming mainstream to hate certain people.

    It does kind of feel like the reset button is coming and a key component to this is eliminating the strength to resist it.
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    America will cease to exist as we know it in 50 years or less. That is just a fact for anyone who understands and can interpret the current trends.

    All great empires come and go, Egypt, Rome.....Ironically they all kind of declined the same way, by becoming a rabble.
    When the factors that force a nation to be strong are concurred, the nation becomes weak and falls. Our evolution designed us to seek out and destroy adversaries. When we run out we create imagined adversaries from within and self terminate.
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    Every 80 years or so, society becomes somewhat unglued and a war puts it back together:

    1781, 1861, 1941, 2021

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