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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    Lol I wish, but no. I was hoping for a serious answer from you.

    That doesn't mean I wouldn't die for Israel. I definitely would.

    I would sacrifice myself and my entire family for Israel.
    Cant tell if you're trolling or crazy. Either way, Shalom.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    OP answer this...why exactly are we apparently invading Syria to get oil for Exxon atm?
    The fact that he stated this so....nakedly disturbed the hell out of me. Anyone who hates war (as conservatives seem to pretend these days) should have seen that as a major alarm bell. He is coming right out and stating we're doing it for the oil now, whereas in the past it was tiptoed around. I fear he's normalizing it and laying the groundwork for more operations in the future. He's always felt this way though, in the '90s he thought we should have taken Iraq's oil straight up. In a way he's a point and I'm kind of glad he's so honest about how he feels. The people around him with their own agendas are what I'm worried about though. How long until we're in Iran after their 50 billion barrel find? If it ever comes to be it'll come slowly as tidbits of Iran's fukkery get dripped to us and years later half the nation will be demand or at least accept that going to war with Iran is a good idea. I'm convinced the news cycle is being used to herd the populace for chit like this, can't just up and decide-gotta do a lil foreplay before ya PIITB...

    The saving grace is Trump seems to handle detractors and snakes in his own circles pretty well. See the list he's jettisoned so far, namely Bolton. He's not afraid to cut em down and kick them out, even though he gets chit on constantly for turnover. It's a good thing IMO.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    The fact that he stated this so....nakedly disturbed the hell out of me. Anyone who hates war (as conservatives seem to pretend these days) should have seen that as a major alarm bell. He is coming right out and stating we're doing it for the oil now, whereas in the past it was tiptoed around. I fear he's normalizing it and laying the groundwork for more operations in the future. He's always felt this way though, in the '90s he thought we should have taken Iraq's oil straight up. In a way he's a point and I'm kind of glad he's so honest about how he feels. The people around him with their own agendas are what I'm worried about though. How long until we're in Iran after their 50 billion barrel find? It'll come slowly as tidbits of Iran's fukkery get dripped to us and years later half the nation will be demand or at least accept that going to war with Iran is a good idea. I'm convinced the news cycle is being used to herd the populace for chit like this, can't just up and decide-gotta do a lil foreplay before ya PIITB...

    The saving grace is Trump seems to handle detractors and snakes in his own circles pretty well. See the list he's jettisoned so far, namely Bolton. He's not afraid to cut em down and kick them out, even though he gets chit on constantly for turnover. It's a good thing IMO.
    So the US is taking the oil revenue? Nope, its going to the Kurds.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    So the US is taking the oil revenue? Nope, its going to the Kurds.
    After he announced Baghdaddi's killing he specifically mentioned getting Exxon in there for the oil.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Cant tell if you're trolling or crazy. Either way, Shalom.
    Neither but thanks.

    I don't remember insulting you in any thread though.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Why did Trump hire these guys then?

    I thought he only "hires the best?"
    its 4d chess , you wouldnt understand
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    After he announced Baghdaddi's killing he specifically mentioned getting Exxon in there for the oil.
    And that wasn't the first time Trump has mentioned taking other countries oil.
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    Originally Posted by Dorich View Post
    Neither but thanks.

    I don't remember insulting you in any thread though.
    Calling you a dipchit would be an insult, making an observation which I believe to be true is not. If your position is sincere, in my opinion you're crazy.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    And that wasn't the first time Trump has mentioned taking other countries oil.
    Only liberals would find something to be wrong with that.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    And that wasn't the first time Trump has mentioned taking other countries oil.
    As I mentioned earlier.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    After he announced Baghdaddi's killing he specifically mentioned getting Exxon in there for the oil.
    Link? I do agree he said he wanted to secure the oil fields. Ultimately, I dont believe we are.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Link? I do agree he said he wanted to secure the oil fields. Ultimately, I dont believe we are.
    Heard him speaking on the radio. Specifically mentioned Exxon. This is not an unknown idea to him, in fact he's repeatedly said we should be taking oil from countries in the past. Usually as payment for our services. He had an interview with Barbara Walters or Oprah where he criticizes Bush 1 for not taking the Oil in Iraq.
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    Heard him speaking on the radio. Specifically mentioned Exxon. This is not an unknown idea to him, in fact he's repeatedly said we should be taking oil from countries in the past. Usually as payment for our services.

    He has, more bluster than actual policy. We are keeping ISIS and other hostile actors from using oil money to funnel terrorism.
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    In what way have Neo Cons made Israel better off?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    He has, more bluster than actual policy. We are keeping ISIS and other hostile actors from using oil money to funnel terrorism.
    They complain about all the money we spend on these wars, but when it comes to taking some oil to offset the cost, suddenly not a care in the world about it...
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Why did Trump hire these guys then?

    I thought he only "hires the best?"
    Limited options.

    If he picks a career politician; bad!

    If he picks a lobbyist; bad!

    It’s not like he can take one of his hotel managers and give him the job. Not sure how that is so difficult to understand.
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    Do you cultist ever consider just for a moment that the idiot you love so much is an immoral, silver spoon, lying douchebag unfit for the job?

    Does that thought even cross your cultist minds?

    Note how none of Obama's former cabinet have written books talking about how stupid he his. Several of Trump's has.

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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post

    She's trying to position herself for a presidential run.
    She is.

    But she lives in a media bubble where she thinks she is more popular than she actually is. She isn't well liked by the core base of Republicans, especially by the "alt right" segment which thrives on Trump style rhetoric. Shes seen as a RINO that's even worse than Romney. Everytime I see an article about her on Breitbart she gets absolutely smashed in the comments section.

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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    Heard him speaking on the radio. Specifically mentioned Exxon. This is not an unknown idea to him, in fact he's repeatedly said we should be taking oil from countries in the past. Usually as payment for our services. He had an interview with Barbara Walters or Oprah where he criticizes Bush 1 for not taking the Oil in Iraq.
    The oil is for the Kurds. Trump didn't invade Syria.
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    She is.

    But she lives in a media bubble where she thinks she is more popular than she actually is. She isn't well liked by the core base of Republicans, especially by the "alt right" segment which thrives on Trump style rhetoric. Shes seen as a RINO that's even worse than Romney. Everytime I see an article about her on Breitbart she gets absolutely smashed in the comments section.

    tldr;

    She can't win.
    The far-right is a fraction of the electorate. Haley would win easily in 2024.
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    The far-right is a fraction of the electorate. Haley would win easily in 2024.
    To me she is very similar to Tulsi Gabbard, politically savvy in concealing what she really is. She is trying to walk the line between supporting Trump and not pissing off the Establishment. If she did not work to undermine Trump, fine. But if she was aware of the efforts to do so and didn't speak up, then that's no different than watching a burglar break into your neighbors house and not calling the cops. Simply stated, I wouldn't vote for her.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Why did Trump hire these guys then?

    I thought he only "hires the best?"
    Not many republicans that wouldn't hire them. It's like hiring an employee you like, but who ends up stealing from you.

    "Why did I hire that person?" You answer it.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    The far-right is a fraction of the electorate.
    It is, but they drive a large percentage of the memes and talking points and are generally the most politically active. So in the internet age, it is a factor.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    To me she is very similar to Tulsi Gabbard, politically savvy in concealing what she really is. She is trying to walk the line between supporting Trump and not pissing off the Establishment. If she did not work to undermine Trump, fine. But if she was aware of the efforts to do so and didn't speak up, then that's no different than watching a burglar break into your neighbors house and not calling the cops. Simply stated, I wouldn't vote for her.
    I would say Haley has been pretty upfront about her views though. From the campaign, to her time in the admin, she's been pretty consistent. Don't agree with her on some things, but for the most part she's in sync with what I beleive.

    As for telling Trump, will be interesting to see a better timeline of events.
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    Originally Posted by Eugenics View Post
    It is, but they drive a large percentage of the memes and talking points and are generally the most politically active. So in the internet age, it is a factor.
    No they don't. The far-right is the Brietbart crowd, and go look at their political history of backing candidates.

    The 4chan/meme crowd isn't far-right, they're anti-establishment psuedo-anarchists.
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    is it unconstitutional? they are his employees, if he finds them not doing what he wants, its his responsibility to fire them. Is it in the constitution that his employees must do everything he asks no matter how crazy? and these are not military so its not wrong in that sense either.
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
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    Oh look, she's conveniently promoting a new book

    And Trump just tweeted out an advertisement for said book a few hours ago

    How convenient that she is now in the news with stories about supporting Trump


    This is all so unplanned, not coordinated, and definitely newsworthy
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    is it unconstitutional? they are his employees, if he finds them not doing what he wants, its his responsibility to fire them. Is it in the constitution that his employees must do everything he asks no matter how crazy? and these are not military so its not wrong in that sense either.

    Imagine any other country, where the people appointed by the leader of said country to serve at his leisure don't actually have to take orders from said "leader" of the country.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    The oil is for the Kurds. Trump didn't invade Syria.
    So Trump was joking about Exxon, amirite?
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