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    Creatine during beginner gainz: yes/no; why? (Briefly).

    Still at the beginner gainz stage, natty for now. Creatine is not considered doping. (In fact I just noticed it's listed on the front of a popular name brand protein powder I just bought, which is what made me ask). What do you think? Yes/no during beginner gainz? Briefly: why.

    The last time I asked a pretty simple question you guys got into 2 pages of long dialogue with each other. That's okay for me as long as you lead wirh your overall conclusion/recommendation 😂
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    I'll do even better. I been using body fortress brand whey protein. It has creatine added. It's also the cheapest non- bulk protein powder I've seen. Chocolate is pretty good.

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    2 extra water weight will make pullups harder. Slightly. I think they say you hold an extra like 5 pounds of water
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    Originally Posted by WakingOp View Post
    I'll do even better. I been using body fortress brand whey protein. It has creatine added. It's also the cheapest non- bulk protein powder I've seen. Chocolate is pretty good.

    2 reasons not to

    1 preexisting kidney problems
    2 extra water weight will make pullups harder. Slightly. I think they say you hold an extra like 5 pounds of water
    I agree with #1, # 2..... not so much, also you will have to consume copious amounts of whey protein to get enough creatine to maintain saturation
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    Supplementation with creatine can help an athlete train harder for a longer period of time. In turn, the increased intensity of muscle training generates faster muscle growth and strength. For example, in a study conducted among bodybuilding enthusiasts by Conrad Earnest and his collaborators At southwestern medical Center and Cooper Clinic in Dallas, Texas, athletes in just a month, taking additional creatine, increased dry body weight by an average of 1.6 kilograms.

    According to the observations of a Swedish sports physiologist, creatine allows weightlifters to achieve an increase in muscle mass by 2.1 (or more) kg. Practical experiments have shown that increasing the total pool of creatine can contribute to weight gain. Many athletes supplementing the diet with creatine have noted an increase in water retention within muscle cells. Thus, the volume of the cell increases. Muscle tension, called muscle tone, improves and muscles are better trained. A power sports athlete weighing 75 kg can increase his weight by 2-4 kg. After stopping supplementation of creatine, weight gain is reduced again, due to increased water release. But due to better performance during training, some of the real muscle gain remains. At the same time in endurance sports, there is improvement in the "spring" properties of muscles and their ability to force this to overcome the large weights!
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    Originally Posted by ermaxinc View Post
    Supplementation with creatine can help an athlete train harder for a longer period of time. In turn, the increased intensity of muscle training generates faster muscle growth and strength. For example, in a study conducted among bodybuilding enthusiasts by Conrad Earnest and his collaborators At southwestern medical Center and Cooper Clinic in Dallas, Texas, athletes in just a month, taking additional creatine, increased dry body weight by an average of 1.6 kilograms.

    According to the observations of a Swedish sports physiologist, creatine allows weightlifters to achieve an increase in muscle mass by 2.1 (or more) kg. Practical experiments have shown that increasing the total pool of creatine can contribute to weight gain. Many athletes supplementing the diet with creatine have noted an increase in water retention within muscle cells. Thus, the volume of the cell increases. Muscle tension, called muscle tone, improves and muscles are better trained. A power sports athlete weighing 75 kg can increase his weight by 2-4 kg. After stopping supplementation of creatine, weight gain is reduced again, due to increased water release. But due to better performance during training, some of the real muscle gain remains. At the same time in endurance sports, there is improvement in the "spring" properties of muscles and their ability to force this to overcome the large weights!

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    Originally Posted by peterm28 View Post
    Still at the beginner gainz stage, natty for now. Creatine is not considered doping. (In fact I just noticed it's listed on the front of a popular name brand protein powder I just bought, which is what made me ask). What do you think? Yes/no during beginner gainz? Briefly: why.

    The last time I asked a pretty simple question you guys got into 2 pages of long dialogue with each other. That's okay for me as long as you lead wirh your overall conclusion/recommendation
    I started taking creatine my 3rd month into lifting
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    There is some evidence that creatine increases DHT levels. DHT is the reduced form of testosterone and is responsible for prostate enlargement and male pattern baldness. As it is believed to help the Norwood reaper, I have never used creatine in my entire life and developed a decent amount of muscle nevertheless.
    Now that you know, the choice is yours...
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    Originally Posted by Natty1980 View Post
    There is some evidence that creatine increases DHT levels. DHT is the reduced form of testosterone and is responsible for prostate enlargement and male pattern baldness. As it is believed to help the Norwood reaper, I have never used creatine in my entire life and developed a decent amount of muscle nevertheless.
    Now that you know, the choice is yours...
    study was complete garbage you are referring to.
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