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11-11-2019, 05:05 AM #121
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11-11-2019, 05:06 AM #122
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11-11-2019, 05:08 AM #123
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11-11-2019, 05:12 AM #124
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11-11-2019, 05:29 AM #125
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11-11-2019, 05:30 AM #126
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11-11-2019, 05:51 AM #127
On the one hand, we have a political opponent of Trump paying for foreign fake dirt on trump and using a complicit intelligence community to leverage that fake and unverified dirt into secret spy warrants so that they could monitor trump. No lawful predicate to investigate anyone.
On the other, we have the former VP bragging about a quid pro quo involving a billion in aid in exchange for firing the prosecutor investigating his family, while being given a 6 hour period to get it done. The VPs son was given a position on a board of a corrupt Ukraine company in which he didn't speak the language, had no experience or expertise, and was paid over 50K per month. That same company reached out to the US state department and name dropped biden just weeks before biden's quid pro quo.
Pretty much the same thing, amirite?
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11-11-2019, 06:19 AM #128
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11-11-2019, 06:23 AM #129
the russian collusion thing wasn't some deep conspiracy that started in ukraine. Trump was acting like russias b*t$h and he fired someone investigating russia's interference in the election. Maybe you could say trump started it even. He asked russia to hack clinton, he kept bringing up wikileaks and now we know they apparently had some contact with them. So trump was basically doing PR to popularize the information out of wikileaks. There was a lot of stuff going on that necessitated an investigation.
second point is just w.e. I have come to realize there is so much misinformation out there people like you who have been swimming in it for so long might be hopelessIs there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
"Scientists say" ?
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11-11-2019, 06:26 AM #130
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11-11-2019, 07:02 AM #131
I don't even know where to start with this insane rambling.
1) Trump and his campaign were illegally spied on dating back to the FISA warrants, which were well before he was ever an elected official. Trump fired nobody when he was a private citizen running for president. I have no idea what point you are even trying to make here.
2) Trump promoted the corruption that was exposed as a result of the Podesta email hack. These were not the subpoenaed emails that Clinton deleted that everyone wanted to get their hands on. Mifsud (the western asset pretending to have Russian connections at the request of our own IC) told papadapolous that Russia had Clinton's emails. Papadapolous then allegedly repeated this to downer from Australia. Never once did Clinton's emails come to light, but everyone was terrified of it, including Obama, since it would wrap up his admin.
3) Trump's team was not coordinating anything with WikiLeaks. They were interested in the corruption that WikiLeaks was exposing, but the only one coordinating anything was the Clinton machine and IC spying on team trump hoping to find dirt to leak to the media leading up to the election. When they found nothing, they used their insurance policy i.e. Russian collusion fairytale.
The entire predicate for an investigation into team trump is that Mifsud (a western asset) told papadapolous that Russia had Clinton emails. Then another western asset, downer, got papadapolous to repeat that line. Papadapolous never said trumps team was working on getting them, that they were coordinating with Russia, etc. Simply "ya, I heard Russia might have them."
And THAT is what launched the whole investigation? An entrapment scheme involving 2 western intel agents and no actual intel?
yikes...
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11-11-2019, 07:54 AM #132
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11-11-2019, 08:15 AM #133
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11-11-2019, 08:18 AM #134
Elections have consequences. That blue wave in 2018 is really coming back to bite Drumpf isn't it?
Fuking hilarious listening to Trumpers meltdown over Schiff and Pelosi and their completely constitutional/legal handling of the impeachment proceedings.
Schiff can run the show however the fuk he wants to. Unless he's violating House rules or the Constitution who the fuk cares.
McConnell holding up the Garland nomination was also dirty as fuk, but what can you do, Dems lost the majority and he's the Senate leader.
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11-11-2019, 08:24 AM #135
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11-11-2019, 08:25 AM #136
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11-11-2019, 08:27 AM #137
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11-11-2019, 08:32 AM #138
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11-11-2019, 08:46 AM #139
There is precedent for a reason, and pelosi and schiff aren’t following it for a reason. The danger in this is that it can and will be repeated on the future. The next time there is a dem president with a republican led house, what will stop them from ramming through a hoax impeachment case?
And McConnell holding up the SC justice nominee in an election year is a precedent put in place by Democrats... again, they liked the move the first time they used it, but they don’t like when it is used against them in the future.
Impeaching a president is taking that to the extreme, and that is what the dems are working on.
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11-11-2019, 08:54 AM #140
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11-11-2019, 08:58 AM #141
SMH indeed.The "whistle blower" is such a compromised individual that Adam Schiff doesnt want his identity exposed...tells us all what we need to know about his new witch hunt. Barr and Durham are the ones doing the real investigation right now. And its scaring the hell out of little adam schitt and the rest of the democrats.EMT/Firefighter Crew
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