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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    The entire media narrative and liberal politician talking point is that it threatened national security. Apparently Sillie isn't even informed on the liberal talking points.
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The entire narrative is that your Orange Leader abused the power of his office for his own political gain.

    god you people are sooooo far gone...SMH...
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    1) Was Ukraine involved in the 2016 election? Yes. Ukraine sources were used by Nellie Ohr, with fake info. Chalupa was knocking down downs in Ukraine to get people to dig up dirt on Manafort and Trump. Ukraine is at the center of much of it. Asking Ukraine to cooperate in the ongoing investigation should be applauded so that we can end this, once and for all. The only conspiracy theory that we know of is Russian collusion with the trump campaign, and that had to originate somewhere. We need to make sure that never happens again.

    2) We have Ukranians trying to get the US info on the bidens and corruption for over a year, but they repeatedly got shut down. We have Biden on tape bragging about a quid pro quo that personally benefitted himself and his family. Biden isn't immune from investigation simply because he is now running against Trump. Was Trump immune from investigation when he was running against the democrats? Because he had his team illegally spied on, for the record.

    Your TDS is showing and it's not a good look. Get it together man.
    Where was the investigations in 17 and 18? Why wasn't the Ukrainian leader asked to investigate Biden then? Why wasn't aid withheld?

    Who else has Trump asked to be investigated?

    So SAD y'all are..
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Where was the investigations in 17 and 18? Why wasn't the Ukrainian leader asked to investigate Biden then? Why wasn't aid withheld?

    Who else has Trump asked to be investigated?

    So SAD y'all are..



























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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Where was the investigations in 17 and 18? Why wasn't the Ukrainian leader asked to investigate Biden then? Why wasn't aid withheld?

    Who else has Trump asked to be investigated?

    So SAD y'all are..
    It's funny because rampage is still going on about FISA abuse which supposedly led to the unfair investigation of Trump.. but he's in full support of Trump abusing his office to investigate a political opponent.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    How many other american citizens has Trump asked be investigated? Why was aid not withheld from Ukraine in 17 and 18?
    You sure are getting worked out about corruption being investigated. You really can't oppose looking into Biden while you applauding things like the Mueller investigation.

    Also how do you know when the Biden Ukraine situation came into Trumps purview?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    It's funny because rampage is still going on about FISA abuse which supposedly led to the unfair investigation of Trump.. but he's in full support of Trump abusing his office to investigate a political opponent.
    It's an abuse of office for a head of state to work with other heads of state to investigate international corruption?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    It's funny because rampage is still going on about FISA abuse which supposedly led to the unfair investigation of Trump.. but he's in full support of Trump abusing his office to investigate a political opponent.
    On the one hand, we have a political opponent of Trump paying for foreign fake dirt on trump and using a complicit intelligence community to leverage that fake and unverified dirt into secret spy warrants so that they could monitor trump. No lawful predicate to investigate anyone.

    On the other, we have the former VP bragging about a quid pro quo involving a billion in aid in exchange for firing the prosecutor investigating his family, while being given a 6 hour period to get it done. The VPs son was given a position on a board of a corrupt Ukraine company in which he didn't speak the language, had no experience or expertise, and was paid over 50K per month. That same company reached out to the US state department and name dropped biden just weeks before biden's quid pro quo.

    Pretty much the same thing, amirite?
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    damn, think sillie needs mental health day away from the forum.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    1) Was Ukraine involved in the 2016 election? Yes. Ukraine sources were used by Nellie Ohr, with fake info. Chalupa was knocking down downs in Ukraine to get people to dig up dirt on Manafort and Trump. Ukraine is at the center of much of it. Asking Ukraine to cooperate in the ongoing investigation should be applauded so that we can end this, once and for all. The only conspiracy theory that we know of is Russian collusion with the trump campaign, and that had to originate somewhere. We need to make sure that never happens again.

    2) We have Ukranians trying to get the US info on the bidens and corruption for over a year, but they repeatedly got shut down. We have Biden on tape bragging about a quid pro quo that personally benefitted himself and his family. Biden isn't immune from investigation simply because he is now running against Trump. Was Trump immune from investigation when he was running against the democrats? Because he had his team illegally spied on, for the record.

    Your TDS is showing and it's not a good look. Get it together man.
    the russian collusion thing wasn't some deep conspiracy that started in ukraine. Trump was acting like russias b*t$h and he fired someone investigating russia's interference in the election. Maybe you could say trump started it even. He asked russia to hack clinton, he kept bringing up wikileaks and now we know they apparently had some contact with them. So trump was basically doing PR to popularize the information out of wikileaks. There was a lot of stuff going on that necessitated an investigation.

    second point is just w.e. I have come to realize there is so much misinformation out there people like you who have been swimming in it for so long might be hopeless
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    I have come to realize there is so much misinformation out there people like me who have been swimming in it for so long might be hopeless
    I believe you.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    the russian collusion thing wasn't some deep conspiracy that started in ukraine. Trump was acting like russias b*t$h and he fired someone investigating russia's interference in the election. Maybe you could say trump started it even. He asked russia to hack clinton, he kept bringing up wikileaks and now we know they apparently had some contact with them. So trump was basically doing PR to popularize the information out of wikileaks. There was a lot of stuff going on that necessitated an investigation.

    second point is just w.e. I have come to realize there is so much misinformation out there people like you who have been swimming in it for so long might be hopeless
    I don't even know where to start with this insane rambling.

    1) Trump and his campaign were illegally spied on dating back to the FISA warrants, which were well before he was ever an elected official. Trump fired nobody when he was a private citizen running for president. I have no idea what point you are even trying to make here.

    2) Trump promoted the corruption that was exposed as a result of the Podesta email hack. These were not the subpoenaed emails that Clinton deleted that everyone wanted to get their hands on. Mifsud (the western asset pretending to have Russian connections at the request of our own IC) told papadapolous that Russia had Clinton's emails. Papadapolous then allegedly repeated this to downer from Australia. Never once did Clinton's emails come to light, but everyone was terrified of it, including Obama, since it would wrap up his admin.

    3) Trump's team was not coordinating anything with WikiLeaks. They were interested in the corruption that WikiLeaks was exposing, but the only one coordinating anything was the Clinton machine and IC spying on team trump hoping to find dirt to leak to the media leading up to the election. When they found nothing, they used their insurance policy i.e. Russian collusion fairytale.

    The entire predicate for an investigation into team trump is that Mifsud (a western asset) told papadapolous that Russia had Clinton emails. Then another western asset, downer, got papadapolous to repeat that line. Papadapolous never said trumps team was working on getting them, that they were coordinating with Russia, etc. Simply "ya, I heard Russia might have them."

    And THAT is what launched the whole investigation? An entrapment scheme involving 2 western intel agents and no actual intel?

    yikes...
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    This guy is really sick.....by the way, where is Lindsey Graham and the Republican Senate? Call these roaches in and destroy the impeachment effort in its tracks.
    This probably isn't the case but perhaps they are playing possum with the IG report and DOJ investigations still active. Doubt it though.
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    Elections have consequences. That blue wave in 2018 is really coming back to bite Drumpf isn't it?

    Fuking hilarious listening to Trumpers meltdown over Schiff and Pelosi and their completely constitutional/legal handling of the impeachment proceedings.

    Schiff can run the show however the fuk he wants to. Unless he's violating House rules or the Constitution who the fuk cares.

    McConnell holding up the Garland nomination was also dirty as fuk, but what can you do, Dems lost the majority and he's the Senate leader.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    the russian collusion thing wasn't some deep conspiracy that started in ukraine. Trump was acting like russias b*t$h and he fired someone investigating russia's interference in the election. Maybe you could say trump started it even. He asked russia to hack clinton, he kept bringing up wikileaks and now we know they apparently had some contact with them. So trump was basically doing PR to popularize the information out of wikileaks. There was a lot of stuff going on that necessitated an investigation.

    second point is just w.e. I have come to realize there is so much misinformation out there people like you who have been swimming in it for so long might be hopeless
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    ^
    Imagine beign a grown man, and believing this drivel.
    "believing" is a silly word. we all watched it happening. Some people simply don't register it.
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Elections have consequences. That blue wave in 2018 is really coming back to bite Drumpf isn't it?

    Fuking hilarious listening to Trumpers meltdown over Schiff and Pelosi and their completely constitutional/legal handling of the impeachment proceedings.

    Schiff can run the show however the fuk he wants to. Unless he's violating House rules or the Constitution who the fuk cares.

    McConnell holding up the Garland nomination was also dirty as fuk, but what can you do, Dems lost the majority and he's the Senate leader.
    Yeah he can run the show however he wants, but hes too scared to let the Republicans call their witnesses because he knows it's a sham. This is Russia 2.0 and it will soon come to light that the Democrats are more ****ed up than the Republicans.
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    Looks like Dems are scared to impeach. The Senate would have a field day with deep state saboteurs witnesses. This actually make Scitt and Pelosi look worse. Well played numbskulls
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    Originally Posted by ItsJamesthefin View Post
    Yeah he can run the show however he wants, but hes too scared to let the Republicans call their witnesses because he knows it's a sham. This is Russia 2.0 and it will soon come to light that the Democrats are more ****ed up than the Republicans.
    There is precedent for a reason, and pelosi and schiff aren’t following it for a reason. The danger in this is that it can and will be repeated on the future. The next time there is a dem president with a republican led house, what will stop them from ramming through a hoax impeachment case?

    And McConnell holding up the SC justice nominee in an election year is a precedent put in place by Democrats... again, they liked the move the first time they used it, but they don’t like when it is used against them in the future.

    Impeaching a president is taking that to the extreme, and that is what the dems are working on.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    There is precedent for a reason, and pelosi and schiff aren’t following it for a reason. The danger in this is that it can and will be repeated on the future. The next time there is a dem president with a republican led house, what will stop them from ramming through a hoax impeachment case?

    And McConnell holding up the SC justice nominee in an election year is a precedent put in place by Democrats... again, they liked the move the first time they used it, but they don’t like when it is used against them in the future.

    Impeaching a president is taking that to the extreme, and that is what the dems are working on.
    Can you tell me when the dems held a SC justice hostage like McConnell did?
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    Those witnesses would in no way add to the county’s understanding of whether or not The Orange Idiot abused his power in a QPQ (hint it’s clear he did as all the witnesses have said).

    And how come Biden and Hunter weren’t investigated in 17 and 18 when conservatives controlled all? Wouldn’t that have been the perfect time to investigate since the Bidens were such a threat to national security. I mean Republicans had no issue investigating other bs back then.

    SMH

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Can you tell me when the dems held a SC justice hostage like McConnell did?
    There were 3 other times in history that the situation presented itself, and all ended up being picked by the winner of the election.

    Biden famously argued this on the floor in the 1990s. You can find the speech.

    Next time research before you post. These are all easily found online.
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    He's getting impeached.

    Just deal with it.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    There were 3 other times in history that the situation presented itself, and all ended up being picked by the winner of the election.

    Biden famously argued this on the floor in the 1990s. You can find the speech.

    Next time research before you post. These are all easily found online.
    So a SCOTUS pick was held up for 10 months? I don't think so boyo.
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    Originally Posted by badreligion View Post
    Translation- "We have no case but we are going to dupe the ignorant public into believing what we say"
    If you've noticed, the rhetoric has already shifted away from "quid pro quo". It's almost like they know there was none...

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    He's getting impeached.

    Just deal with it.
    And he'll still be your President for five more years.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    So a SCOTUS pick was held up for 10 months? I don't think so boyo.
    SCOTUS selection in the election year was deferred to the incoming admin in all prior cases. Look it up, I found it in 10 seconds doing a google search.

    Like most dem arguments, feels outweigh facts.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    SCOTUS selection in the election year was deferred to the incoming admin in all prior cases. Look it up, I found it in 10 seconds doing a google search.

    Like most dem arguments, feels outweigh facts.
    Nope. State your facts please.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Nope. State your facts please.
    He already did...

    Just because you continuously choose to ignore them doesn't mean they're not there.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    He already did...

    Just because you continuously choose to ignore them doesn't mean they're not there.
    Ok, show me where dems held up a SCOTUS pick for 10 months.
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