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    Thoughts on the US healthcare?

    European here living in the US. Just LMFAO at the healthcare when I moved here. If you can't afford good insurance and you get sick, the hospital will literally go "too bad". Heard numerous stories of people dying from not affording treatment.

    In most European countries, healthcare is taken for granted. Doesn't matter how broke you are, if you're sick, you get help. Even here in the US my country will pay my bills if I can't. Everything from ambulance to hospital stays to sitting down with a therapist once per week talking about stress.

    I don't want to make this a Europe vs USA thread, and I know it's not black and white - I was very skeptical about US healthcare before moving here, but now having experience with it, I can see that most treatment here is superior to what you can except in Europe on government funded healthcare. No waiting, usually able to see a doctor same day or the next, the private clinics and hospitals are like luxury resorts (if you can afford them) and because healthcare is such a big business here, it seems way ahead of most other countries. A huge minus though, is that a lot of people can't afford it... In Europe people regardless of social status see healthcare as a human right while in the US people seem more concerned about freedom regarding tax spending and their own healthcare plan, and I often feel like it's a pride thing to pay for their own healthcare. Others wish they had a government funded plan.

    What do you think?

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    If you don't have good insurance or a large bank account you're ****ed. A ridiculous amount of people go bankrupt because of healthcare bills.


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    Flip side is the nanny state like Australia

    Where everything fun and/or dangerous is illegal because healthcare is fully covered and the government doesn’t like paying the bill

    Yet smoking/ drinking and fast food is still legal because it brings in more tax revenue then it costs

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    Originally Posted by moosik85 View Post
    Flip side is the nanny state like Australia

    Where everything fun and/or dangerous is illegal because healthcare is fully covered and the government doesn’t like paying the bill

    Yet smoking/ drinking and fast food is still legal because it brings in more tax revenue then it costs
    what are some fun and dangerous things that are illegal there that are not illegal in the us?

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    I think the what I’ve experienced beyond what you’ve said is that these luxury healthcare corporations rob government subsidized healthcare blind too. It’s like a complete farce you can walk into the Er having a panic attack, stay for 30 minutes get an anxiety med and be forced out. Pay 800$ for a 2$ med it’s ridiculous and I know the two things aren’t necessarily related but all the same. Totally am half awake sleep right now over this bull chit, prolly sounded slightly incoherent.
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    It's terrible now. It would be worse if everyone got free healthcare.

    Good luck trying to convince your wife that she shouldn't worry about her new gynecologist, Dr Kormo. Or if she breaks a bone that Dr Malodrax has put plenty of bodies back together.
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    I get socialized healthcare here (Largely the basics, beyond that use other insurance) since I'm a tribal citizen (Despite being mostly white) and it's not too bad but it can be pretty disorganized and have very chitty wait times. I don't have a perfect answer for everyone but I can't imagine how messy it'd be on a larger scale.
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    It's broken. They are getting ripped off.

    They spend the same amount publicly as "free healthcare" countries, and three times the amount privately. So they pay the same damn taxes but still have to buy private insurance on top of it. Wtf does the government do with all that money? Throw it in the swamp?
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    Originally Posted by hotsaucebrah View Post
    If you don't have good insurance or a large bank account you're ****ed. A ridiculous amount of people go bankrupt because of healthcare bills.


    A new study from academic researchers found that 66.5 percent of all bankruptcies were tied to medical issues —either because of high costs for care or time out of work. An estimated 530,000 families turn to bankruptcy each year because of medical issues and bills, the research found.
    I'm sure most of those families were good with their money and bought insurance. lol

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    I met an Englishman who survived a plane crash in America. He remembers the paramedics asking him if he had health insurance, and he was all "wtf?? I was just in a plane crash."

    He got a settlement out of the crash and took a gap year. Whilst in the states, he was a passenger in a car crash and he was astonished again that the paramedics asked him if he had health insurance.
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    Originally Posted by Adamanti View Post
    what are some fun and dangerous things that are illegal there that are not illegal in the us?
    Things the government can’t make money off

    Paint ball guns
    Gel blasters
    Crossbows
    Hunting on public land (most states)
    Going 3mph over the speed limit here is a 100$+ fine in the states I was going well over 15+ with the flow of traffic
    Riding a bicycle without a helmet
    Public drinking
    Modifying your car
    Guns

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    Healthcare should be reserved for those who get into an accident, like a broken arm or chainsaw cutting off their retard legs.

    Healthcare should NOT be for those who lived an unhealthy lifestyle all throughout their 30's-70's. THAT is exactly how the healthcare industry gets rich and how the tax money is being misused.

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    stop this government sponsored healthcare crap and let the free market allow for lower prices through supply and demand. this isn't just healthcare its the government in general.


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    Originally Posted by Coachbombay View Post
    It's broken. They are getting ripped off.

    They spend the same amount publicly as "free healthcare" countries, and three times the amount privately. So they pay the same damn taxes but still have to buy private insurance on top of it. Wtf does the government do with all that money? Throw it in the swamp?
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