You think this scenario covers all scenarios? You need to review this entire thread, as a lot of people, UK citizens included do not share your opinion.
As I have mentioned before, I am sure NHS is good for some, but not for all. For this thread, it would not equate to a good thing for the United States for the many reasons already posted by me and others, sources included.
Once again, you bring down good thread with your nauseating insults which accomplish nothing.
The US is not in recession in part because we haven't invested in the social programs that the UK has. There are better and more intelligent solutions.
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11-06-2019, 04:54 AM #91Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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11-06-2019, 05:11 AM #92
That poster who unsurprisingly didn't read the article he posted thought it was an argument against the NHS, when it so happened to be a great example of where the NHS saves lives. Had that family not had top tier insurance in the US, the kid wouldn't have been worthy of having treatment.
There is almost nobody in the UK, either on the labour or tory side, that doesn't want the NHS. Of course the NHS has problems, and a chronic lack of funding is among them, but nobody wants to disband it - not even the UKs most conservative party (UKIP) would think of suggesting such a thing.
Meanwhile a significant proportion of the population in the US, both professionals and non-professional, are increasingly seeing the pitfalls of the incredibly wasteful, expensive, and inefficient US private healthcare system and how a single payer system could eliminate many of said problems.Misc Crypto Crew
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11-06-2019, 05:17 AM #93
I'm helping a family member that was diagnosed with cancer. Will take about a week to get all the tests done and as soon as the results are in treatment can start. Cant imagine how awful ut would be to go on a waiting list in a situation like that.
Sorry, I meant to say a free waiting list.Official misc attaché to the Kremlin
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11-06-2019, 05:55 AM #101
Far less than leave the US to seek treatment elsewhere.
https://www.usitc.gov/publications/3...avel_final.pdf
"About 0.5% of all air travelers entering the United States annually—between 100,000 and 200,000 people—list health treatment as a reason for visiting (this data excludes travelers from Canada and Mexico, the majority of whom travel to the United States overland)."
Meanwhile the most recent estimates for Americans leaving the US to get healthcare elsewhere sits at nearly 1.5 million.
How can you actually try and yet be wrong every single time about everything you ever post on here?Misc Crypto Crew
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11-06-2019, 06:07 AM #102
Actually, you either misread the article with your own biases or didn't read it. The kid would have DIED in Britain's NHS and had to beg the government to let them come to the US to receive care. Strong reading comprehension. But oh yes what a glowing review of the NHS.
"In a typical year, patients from more than 160 countries — many with some of the most developed health care systems — visit Boston Children’s for expertise and surgical procedures. “There’s almost no corner of this institution that is not engaged in providing innovative care for kids from all over the world,” Geva says."
They're coming to the US--not going to the UK.
"While Oliver may never need to visit Boston Children’s again as a patient, the Camerons plan to one day “come back on family holiday,” Lydia says, “to show him the place that saved his life.”
That place WASN'T in the UK. Have another L.Last edited by ButWhoWasNoodz; 11-06-2019 at 06:17 AM.
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11-06-2019, 06:16 AM #104
Medicare for all on paper sounds like a great idea, the notion that a person could potentially go bankrupt having to pay medical bills for something they couldn't help is horrible. But in practice, it just doesn't work, at least not how everyone thinks it would. Just look at the VA if you want to see government run health care at work and imagine that for everyone.
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11-06-2019, 06:20 AM #105anonymousGuest
It's only going to get worse now Trudeau's ****li refugee immigration minister changed the laws so people can now bring their sick and elderly family members over to enjoy that healthcare that Canadians paid into their whole lives.
A lot like the warren/berntards here in the US who unironically want Muh Free along with open borders
My in laws were all huge defenders of OHIP until they had to use it, and its been over 2 years now since my father in law was diagnosed with a torn RC and given no options to fix it.
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11-06-2019, 06:23 AM #106
Since you obviously aren't very bright, let me try this again:
Who paid for the treatment? What would the parents have done if there was no NHS available to all, since they couldn't afford the procedure themselves? What would a child in the US who was didn't have a top tier insurance plan that covered said procedure have done?
Please try and answer the questions directly without dodging.Misc Crypto Crew
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11-06-2019, 06:29 AM #107
You're correct, people with money leave their Socialist utopias, to come to the US for quality care.
Why Canadians Are Increasingly Seeking Medical Treatment Abroad
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huf...570d3778ff/amp
turns out there are a growing number of Canadians seeking medical treatment abroad as well, raiding their bank accounts and choosing to pay for treatment instead of being treated through their nationalized health care system. In 2014, more than 50,000 Canadians left the country for medical treatment, a 25 percent increase from the previous year.
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11-06-2019, 07:19 AM #113
All the great liberal idea will mean none of my kids will have to work on the future I can just go and blow all my money and investments and the Dems will look after me. No need to put money away for kids going to college, no more medical bills, just go to the hospital and queue up behind Jorge and his wife and their 15 kids who all want to get treatment for diabetes
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Good thing CA and Britain are managing the costs of the healthcare program well and they aren’t bankrupting the country.
Then again today we just print more money.
At least you’ll be healthy, until the system collapses then you’re retirement will be worth pennies, and healthcare will disappear.
Only thing left will be your bonesMisc Firearm Crew. 2nd Amendment cannot be Interpreted.
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11-06-2019, 07:51 AM #117
If healthcare in the US isn't affordable for millions of people then you don't have a good healthcare system.
In the entire world combined you have maybe 200k people a year (if that) travelling to the US for care. That means the number of people in each individual country who feel their system is inadequate and so need American healthcare is pretty damn small.
However well over a million Americans a year are let down by their healthcare system so seek treatment elsewhere.
Pretty simple maths boyo.Misc Crypto Crew
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