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    Lightbulb Future of America: 70% of US Millennials say they are likely to vote socialist

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    The fourth annual report on “US Attitudes Toward Socialism, Communism, and Collectivism,” commissioned by the anticommunist Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and conducted by YouGov, found a sharp growth in interest in socialism among youth in the US over the past year.

    The study has been conducted annually since 2016 and bases itself on interviews with over 2,000 people.

    This years’ results reveal a significant radicalization taking place among youth, particularly in the Millennial Generation (those aged 23-38) and Gen Z (aged 16-22). Compared to last year’s report, favorable views of capitalism dropped 6 percentage points and 8 percentage points for Gen Z and Millennials, respectively.

    Other notable findings include:

    * 70 percent of Millennials say they would be “somewhat likely” or “extremely likely” to vote for a socialist candidate. The percentage of Millennials who say they would be extremely likely to vote for a socialist candidate has doubled (from 10 percent in 2018 to 20 percent in 2019).

    * Overall, 83 percent say they know at least a little about socialism, and 39 percent of Americans say they “know a lot”—a nearly 40 percent increase from 2018.

    * Nearly half of Millennials think the government should provide a job to everyone who wants to work but cannot find it.

    * Forty percent of Americans (45 percent of Gen Z and Millennials) think all higher education should be free.

    * Around one in five Millennials thinks society would be better off if all private property were abolished.

    * Seventy percent of Americans say the divide between the rich and the poor is a serious issue.

    * Of the more than half (63 percent) of Americans who think the highest earners are “not paying their fair share,” 54 percent think increased taxes are part of the answer, and 47 percent say a complete change of the economic system is needed.

    * Thirty-seven percent of Millennials think the US is one of the most unequal societies in the world.

    * Over a quarter of Americans across all generations said Donald Trump is the biggest threat to world peace.

    The source of this radicalization is not hard to find. The chief characteristic of life for Millennials and Gen Z has been skyrocketing social inequality. Many are forced to work two, three or even four jobs to make ends meet. One in five millennials is living below the poverty line.

    The growing interest in and support for socialism coincides with a significant growth of class struggle and social protest internationally. In Lebanon, massive protests have brought an estimated one quarter of the country’s six million people onto the streets. In Chile, millions of people continue to flood the streets protesting social inequality and state violence in the largest demonstrations in the country’s history.
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    LMFAO!!!!

    I said it here million times. You go hard right... they'll go hard left... pendulum swings both ways.... there is going to be a time forget about warren or sanders ... AOC will be your president.. trump is the best thing ever happened to leftists movement in this country.


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    Well 70% of people are idiots, Socialism does not work and when they are standing in line for government cheese they will be like "gee what happened?" Leaning to the extreme of one side or the other is never a good idea.
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    lmao once they get out of college and their marxists professor's BS and actually start working they'll abandon this fuking retarded ideology.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    If you actually understood communism/socialism and it's context in relation to capitalism then you wouldn't have such a bitter perspective towards it. You may not agree with it and are most likely a product of a severe campaign against the ideology but to say it's psuedo-intellectual is ridiculous.

    For all we know, communism is really inevitable as communists claim and will manifest after capitalism collapses. It could come about after a strong merge with body and technology (strong AI). And it involves a pretty complex economic theory which I don't fully understand because i'm not well-versed in economics.

    Communism might not work right now, in the 20th century, or in the next 50 years. But Marx predicted it would eventually replace capitalism after it's collapse so if that eventually happens then he would be right. Technologically induced or otherwise.

    Socialism, a branch closer related to communism than capitalism is playing a significant role in politics. The only real laggard to socialism is the United States. Most other countries like Germany, Sweden, Canada, England and Australia are all far more socialist and in many of those ways are in a better position than the US. And this is an increasing trend. If corporations run amok like they have been, then it's quite possible they will destroy the environment and government for profit possibly leading to a dramatic revolution. It won't happen over night.
    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    don't be so easily led by propaganda...

    "According to Marxist analysis, class conflict within capitalism arises due to intensifying contradictions between highly-productive mechanized and socialized production performed by the proletariat, and private ownership and private appropriation of the surplus product in the form of surplus value (profit) by a small minority of private owners called the bourgeoisie. As the contradiction becomes apparent to the proletariat, social unrest between the two antagonistic classes intensifies, culminating in a social revolution. The eventual long-term outcome of this revolution would be the establishment of socialism - a socioeconomic system based on cooperative ownership of the means of production, distribution based on one's contribution, and production organized directly for use. Karl Marx hypothesized that, as the productive forces and technology continued to advance, socialism would eventually give way to a communist stage of social development. Communism would be a classless, stateless, moneyless society based on common ownership."

    This is what's happening right now. Think about all the cries in the US about the emergence of socialism. Europe. The world is moving towards socialism. Capitalism/Communism have inherent factors that are part of it's system and will manifest no matter where or when they are implemented. And perhaps when we are far more intelligent as a species (merging man and machine) we will be less primitive, individualistic and self-centered and living in a classless society might actually work. Maybe not.
    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    the same can be said for capitalism bro. Communism isn't a totalitarian dictatorship. Just because some people got behind the theory and used it as a means for oppression and violence doesn't distort the original theory. It's solid and that's why people learn and study it in University/college. It's one way of running a society, just like capitalism. And capitalism has it's problems and evidence supporting the theory points to it eventually being overthrown.

    and xenic I think it would go anarcho-communist
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    LMFAO!!!!

    I said it here million times. You go hard right... they'll go hard left... pendulum swings both ways.... there is going to be a time forget about warren or sanders ... AOC will be your president.. trump is the best thing ever happened to leftists movement in this country.


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    where is this "far-right" america you speak of?

    imagine living in a leftist controlled culture and thinking it's "far-right" LMFAO
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    millennial's are largely done with college, which is the scary part, most of them should be in the workforce (which means they aren't objecting to giving up their money to taxes). People think millennial's are perma in college. I'm a younger millennial at 27.
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    Originally Posted by LFAesthetics View Post
    millennial's are largely done with college, which is the scary part, most of them should be in the workforce. People think millennial are perma in college. I'm a younger millennial at 27.
    Accompanied with the change in demographics (white minority by 2045) it’s not looking good for American conservatism.

    But as monkey said the pendulum does swing but progressives have a tendency to fundamentally change the country.

    I think the article got it right, support is increasing because the problems of capitalism continue manifesting.
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    where is this "far-right" america you speak of?

    imagine living in a leftist controlled culture and thinking it's "far-right" LMFAO
    America is a country where providing healthcare for all citizens, something every wealthy capitalist nation in the world does, is considered "far left" to a sizeable number of morons.

    Democrats like Obama would be the conservative candidate in basically any other nation.

    Imagine thinking America is left wing LMFAO. I remember being 9.
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    Well they have 5 years to find a job and grow up. We'll see about socialism then. Till then doesn't really matter.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    America is a country where providing healthcare for all citizens, something every wealthy capitalist nation in the world does, is considered "far left" to a sizeable number of morons.

    Democrats like Obama would be the conservative candidate in basically any other nation.

    Imagine thinking America is left wing LMFAO. I remember being 9.
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    LMFAO!!!!

    I said it here million times. You go hard right... they'll go hard left... pendulum swings both ways.... there is going to be a time forget about warren or sanders ... AOC will be your president.. trump is the best thing ever happened to leftists movement in this country.


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    Its OK they'll grow up and have a paycheck one day.
    Unfortunately this is an outdated way of thinking almost based entirely on demographics that no longer exist. A majority of little Johnnies do generally move right as they grow older. However, the little Jaun/Raj/Jamal/Mohammed/Ho-Lee, who are now starting to make up the majority of those age groups, do not. Not racial, just math/voting records.

    BRB 95% of black woman who get a paycheck are going to say fuk this Im voting for the furthest right leaning person running!!1!1
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    ALERT: FAR-RIGHT COUNTRY HAS

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    All thanks to democrats, who also balance budgets and fix economies broken by republicans.

    The American right protect the second amendment and cater to big business. America is still far more right wing than any of the developed countries.
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    Originally Posted by Vito-C View Post
    Everyone is a socialist until they get their 1st paycheck

    Edit: Wizarded^
    This is the problem, tons of Millenials are leeches who don't get paychecks. They want a nanny state because they have zero drive.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    All thanks to democrats, who also balance budgets and fix economies broken by republicans.

    The American right protect the second amendment and cater to big business. America is still far more right wing than any of the developed countries.
    > far-right
    > has a million social programs and the LEAST strict immigration process of any developed nation

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    History has shown that young people are more liberal, but as they age, they become more centered and then make decisions based on their experience and not so much from their college professors.

    Millennials grow up, gain experience and start to think on their own.

    So, OP is a fail as usual in his efforts to mislead some here into believing that people maintain their same political beliefs throughout their lives.
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    > far-right
    > has a million social programs and the LEAST strict immigration process of any developed nation

    pick 1
    America is still considered fairly far right compared to the developed world. The right wing in America is responsible for holding the country back from making progress. It’s why where America should be ranked #1 in things like education and health care are in fact ranked very poorly.

    Those social programs were implemented by the democratic “socialists” and were born out of necessity due to the failures and shortcomings of capitalism.

    The US is still considered a good place for big business because they own the country fuk the people. And of course the American right and NRA are responsible for the amount of guns in circulation which has led to a public safety epidemic and mass shootings almost every week.

    American conservatives have held America back on the international stage and are now being showed up by countries like France, Singapore, Iceland, Canada and China (HK).
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    America is still considered fairly far right compared to the developed world. The right wing in America is responsible for holding the country back from making progress. It’s why where America should be ranked #1 in things like education and health care are in fact ranked very poorly.

    Those social programs were implemented by the democratic “socialists” and were born out of necessity due to the failures and shortcomings of capitalism.

    The US is still considered a good place for big business because they own the country fuk the people. And of course the American right and NRA are responsible for the amount of guns in circulation which has led to a public safety epidemic and mass shootings almost every week.

    American conservatives have held America back on the international stage and are now being showed up by countries like France and China (HK).
    America is only considered far-right by communists

    - FREE markets
    - FREEDOM of speech, assembly and
    - FREEDOM to defend yourself

    all used to be considered "left" ideas

    now it's far right

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    America is still considered fairly far right compared to the developed world. The right wing in America is responsible for holding the country back from making progress. It’s why where America should be ranked #1 in things like education and health care are in fact ranked very poorly.

    Those social programs were implemented by the democratic “socialists” and were born out of necessity due to the failures and shortcomings of capitalism.

    The US is still considered a good place for big business because they own the country fuk the people. And of course the American right and NRA are responsible for the amount of guns in circulation which has led to a public safety epidemic and mass shootings almost every week.

    American conservatives have held America back on the international stage and are now being showed up by countries like France, Singapore, Iceland, Canada and China (HK).
    None of that is true whatsoever. Why are you lying?
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    Future of America: 70% of US Millennials are dumb as phuk
    I agree with you Tammy, it's troubling.
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