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    7 in 10 say US ‘on the edge of civil war’

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...e-of-civil-war

    Battleground: 7 in 10 say US ‘on the edge of civil war’
    by Paul Bedard
    October 23, 2019 01:27 PM

    Partisan political division and the resulting incivility has reached a low in America, with 67% believing that the nation is nearing civil war, according to a new national survey.

    “The majority of Americans believe that we are two-thirds of the way to being on the edge of civil war. That to me is a very pessimistic place,” said Mo Elleithee, the executive director of Georgetown University’s Institute of Politics and Public Service.

    And worse, he said in announcing the results of the institute’s Battleground Poll, the political division is likely to make the upcoming 2020 presidential race the nastiest in modern history.

    Highlighting findings that show voters angered with compromise and growing unfavorable ratings of President Trump and most 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, he said the poll “paints a scenario, a picture of a highly negative campaign that will continue to exacerbate the incivility in our public discourse."

    He added, “It will be a sort of race to the bottom, or has the potential to be a race to the bottom.”

    The Civility Poll is an offshoot of the famous bipartisan Battleground Poll conducted by Democratic pollster Celinda Lake of Lake Research Partners and Ed Goeas of the Tarrance Group.

    While it found that 87% are frustrated with the rudeness in politics today, it also revealed that the public really isn’t interested in traditional compromise. For example, a nearly equal 84% said that they are “tired of leaders compromising [their] values and ideals.”

    Elleithee explained, “It seems to me what they’re saying is, ‘I believe in common ground, it’s just that common ground is where I’m standing. As soon you move over to where I am, we’ll be on common ground.’”

    Goeas pointed to the poor favorable ratings of presidential candidates and said that 2020 may be a rare race between candidates that less than half the country likes.

    “There is going to be a large body of voters who dislike both of them, and that’s going to be the swing vote in the election, which means it dictates the kind of campaign that’s run,” he said.

    Lake agreed that national division is widening. “There is relative consensus that divisions in this country are getting worse,” she said in her memo accompanying the survey released Tuesday.

    Both pollsters noted that the public blames social media, the news media, and Trump for the growing division.

    But Goeas, not a fan of the president, said he believes that Trump didn’t start the rudeness in today’s politics. “He is a symptom of where we are, not ‘the’ disease,” he said, adding, “One of the things that I have focused on as we have gone into this death spiral of incivility in the country, that we had to be at a certain point for Trump to become acceptable.”

    The poll backs that up. It found that 84% believe that “behavior that used to be seen as unacceptable is now accepted as normal behavior.”
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    maybe on the internet, it feels that way

    i doubt 7/10 people in real life are expecting a civil war
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    I can see a "cold" civil war happening. There wont be any shooting, but I'm not going to say there wont be violence. It could get nasty.

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    She already hates 90% of the country, only the gullible votes and illegals
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    maybe on the internet, it feels that way

    i doubt 7/10 people in real life are expecting a civil war
    We're no longer talking about muzzle vs muzzle open field combat. Civil war is happening, and not just within the United States. It's a war over technology, group think and basically thought control. A police state is happening in Europe and as soon as the 2nd amendment gets "altered", it will spread towards the US.
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    cant wait. the great meme war was amusing and many jimmies (mostly the soylent left) were rustled.

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    I don't think that's true. I think drama sells, so the media are constantly pushing divisive stories, which most of the time are nothing more than a storm in a teacup.

    Overall, most people are sensible and probably centrists, but the loud tiny minority making a big fuss all the time get a lot of attention because they generate clicks.
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    It isn't that far off...

    Sure the internet is the internet, but the fact is that half the country is trying to ban things that the other half finds essential.

    Half the country wanted to impeach Trump the second they lost the election.

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    President Warren will keep us together.
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    Overall, most people are sensible and probably centrists.
    that changes every decade and most definitely with every generation. A centrist today is wary of transgenders. A centrist tomorrow will be wary of ****philia.
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    I admire your optimism
    I really can't stand Warren.
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    Just what Russia LOVES to hear. Sowing hate/political division is best way to weaken us.
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    Oh please, most Americans do not even care about any of this political **** at all. It is just that the media keeps blowing stuff up and making it look like it is the end of the world. And the internet is horrible to draw conclusions from. If you spend too much time on the internet on any subject, you become so invested in it that you literally feel that it represents society as a whole.
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    There are already an online and MSM civil wars. Where I live I have never experienced many people arguing about politics IRL, but I know it is there. Just not real common like it is on the West Coast and upper East Coast New England. A civil war would be horrible because you wouldn't know who to attack or watch out for. No uniforms.

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    Gonna be like the Area 51 thing where no one shows up.
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    I feel like one side is prepared and not worried about this impending civil war in the least, and the other side, well...
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    Hopefully there will be a misc safe word or something so no one here gets taken down by friendly fire.
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    would be the shortest civil war in history. all these soy-filled democrats would get absolutely destroyed
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    There's definitely a civil cold war going on
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