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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    Nadler/Schiff: These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump’s political revenge.
    In their defense, what other defense do they honestly have? All they can say is this is a politicized investigation led by Trump and targeting his opponents. They will conveniently leave out that it is an investigation into how the obama admin weaponized intelligence to spy on trump... the hypocrisy of it all.

    These people are in a world of trouble.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    In their defense, what other defense do they honestly have? All they can say is this is a politicized investigation led by Trump and targeting his opponents. They will conveniently leave out that it is an investigation into how the obama admin weaponized intelligence to spy on trump... the hypocrisy of it all.

    These people are in a world of trouble.
    Kind of makes their phone call investigation look a little inadequate.
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    So Clapper, Page and Stroyk sent an innocent man, Flynn, to jail.

    For what reason again?
    Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI
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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction that nothing will happen beyond Trump crying on Twitter.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI
    Guess who's going to take his spot after he gets pardoned?
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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    So Clapper, Page and Stroyk sent an innocent man, Flynn, to jail.

    For what reason again?
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...sidney-powell/

    Flynn was part of the obama admin (I believe DIA). He was a vocal opponent to the iran deal and found himself on the obama teams hit list. Flynn knew too much, and their goal was to destroy the man. They started by circling the usual spies (halper, etc.) around Flynn and planting false stories about him having an affair or having nefarious conversations with a russian woman dating way back before the election. As McCabe allegedly said in a meeting "first we fcuk flynn, then we fcuk trump." It was a way for them to flex their muscles, give Mueller's investigation the appearance of credibility, and to ruin a political opponent.

    The larger story here is widespread political surveillance of political opponents under obama and targeting of these opponents with foreign spies to dirty them up as needed. Much like they weaponized the IRS against conservatives, they did the same with weaponization of the intelligence community. It wasn't specific to Trump, he just became the top priority once he won the republican nomination.

    Flynn got absolutely fcuked over by a rogue group of investigators and he finally has a lawyer who is fighting back. His case is going to be tossed, just like every other case that mueller's team actually brought to court.

    The alternative is to believe that Flynn actually did something criminal, like lie to strzok and pientka (they said he didn't in their 302s) about a legal conversation that he had with the russian ambassador, all while knowing full well that the FBI had the transcript of the conversation the whole time.
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    Originally Posted by jlick View Post
    Unless you have your head buried completely in the sand, it's obvious that the IC community conspired to illegal spy on the trump campaign, which led to an illegal investigation into a Russian collusion that never happened (who even Mueller admitted never happened). This is watergate x100.
    Spy, and they tried to entrap Papa... Not to mention the Steele dossier, not to mention Ukraine helping Hillary. This is just insane levels of corruption, all under Obama as well.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction that nothing will happen beyond Trump crying on Twitter.
    Based on the amount of panic we are seeing in the media, along with the BS impeachment investigation to parallel the barr/durham investigation... I think you are wrong. People are getting desperate like we haven't seen before.
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    I can't believe what I said broke your uterus but ok...

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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    I'm going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction that nothing will happen beyond Trump crying on Twitter.
    no dude Trump is clearly playing 69D Chutes and Ladders! just wait, EVERYONE against him is going to jail soon!!!!11 trust us this time!! Trump is clearly all action and no talk!!!!!!11111
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    no dude Trump is clearly playing 69D Chutes and Ladders! just wait, EVERYONE against him is going to jail soon!!!!11 trust us this time!! Trump is clearly all action and no talk!!!!!!11111
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI
    Mueller's team didn't hand over Brady material.

    The case is going to be tossed before sentencing.
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    Originally Posted by rampagefc77 View Post
    Mueller's team didn't hand over Brady material.

    The case is going to be tossed before sentencing.
    Why would the government throw out a guilty plea?

    They haven't even recommended prison time...but reserve the right to.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Why would the government throw out a guilty plea?
    that was answered in the post you replied to
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Why would the government throw out a guilty plea?

    They haven't even recommended prison time...but reserve the right to.
    Obviously if it was coerced illegally a judge would throw it out.
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    that was answered in the post you replied to
    ?

    He plead guilty.

    It's over.

    Next is sentencing in Dec.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    ?

    He plead guilty.

    It's over.

    Next is sentencing in Dec.
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    Obviously if it was coerced illegally a judge would throw it out.
    Did Flynn get waterboarded lol
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    Cant believe Ari & Tammy arent able to join in on the criminal investigation news
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Did Flynn get waterboarded lol
    In a way, yes. They threatened to go after his son, too.

    I'm not surprised he took a bs plea, but in light of the truth all coming out now it should be tossed and probably will be.
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    Originally Posted by 401Delta View Post
    In a way, yes. They threatened to go after his son, too.

    I'm not surprised he took a bs plea, but in light of the truth all coming out now it should be tossed and probably will be.
    What's wrong with that?

    He did lie.

    Edit: His admitted statements of offense are online.
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    Weird, I didn’t remember the libs questioning the last investigation so much, if at all

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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Why would the government throw out a guilty plea?
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    Obviously if it was coerced illegally a judge would throw it out.
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    Did Flynn get waterboarded lol
    dafuq are you talking about. you asked a hypothetical question. I answered with the obvious answer that has happened hundreds of times in history.
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    dafuq are you talking about. you asked a hypothetical question. I answered with the obvious answer that has happened hundreds of times in history.
    He said Flynn's conviction would be thrown out.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Did Flynn get waterboarded lol
    Do you know who Steven Hatfill is? He was wrongly accused of sending Anthrax to people after 9-11.

    Mueller mentally tortured him so badly he considered suicide (Steve truly believes that was what the FBI was attempting to do).

    You can read about it here: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ng-man/308019/

    If you see what Mueller's FBI did to Hatfill, you can see the same M.O. with regards to Manafort/Flynn/Ppapapdaopolus/etc. etc. He loves to leak to the press for example. He did that multiple times with Hatfill, and of course, Trump's people.

    Oh yeah, I should mention the next person Mueller accused of sending the Anthrax letters did commit suicide.

    Does that matter?
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    Is there anything in the rules that prevents you from getting elected even though you dont run? I know you technically cant run for a 3rd term"
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    Originally Posted by Tears View Post
    Lmao. Proliberals4 triggered af
    I am triggered because you know Halfway is right. Trump is going to do nothing but cry on Twitter.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Why would the government throw out a guilty plea?

    They haven't even recommended prison time...but reserve the right to.
    Sidney Powell has more than proved that the FBI had no predicate for interviewing Flynn in the first place, did not alert him that there was a criminal investigation, and that the FBI already knew the answer to all questions because they had the call transcript.

    They carefully coordinated for 2 weeks how to interview flynn.

    Afterwards, they manipulated the 302s to give the appearance of a lie. They failed to file the 302s within 5 days as required, and state that they conveniently "lost" the original.

    After manipulating the 302s and bringing charges for lying, they simultaneously pressure other offices to enter FARA charges on FLynn. (the FARA case was brought to court on Flynn's partner, and it was thrown out by the judge because it was complete BS).

    In addition, Rosenstein allowed Mueller the authority to go after Flynn's son, who just had a baby and just started a business. ON what grounds, you might ask? None, other than to pressure flynn into a plea.

    So they manufacture a lying charge, simultaneously manufacture a FARA charge (one that was thrown out of a court), AND threaten to go after his son all while withholding evidence they had in their possession (brady evidence) that they are required to procedure indicating his innocence.

    THAT is how a rogue intelligence community works. As schumer said, "they have 6 ways from sunday to get back at you."

    Trump survived that level of corruption in their investigation into him, yet they are trying it again with these impeachment schenanigans.

    Read the latest court filing by Sidney Powell, it is a nuclear bomb on what is left of team mueller.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    He said Flynn's conviction would be thrown out.
    Well, he hasn't been sentenced so it's hard to argue he has been "convicted."

    Sidney Powell is going to get the case thrown due to prosecutorial misconduct, which has more than been established.

    If that fails, he will withdraw his plea and they will fight it out in court. I think there is a 0% chance it goes this route.

    Mueller's team will be lucky if they don;t face charges themselves when this is all said and done.
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    Guess who's going to take his spot after he gets pardoned?
    Ohhhh I know who! Amirite?

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