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    Question Anyone familiar with travel to Mecca, Saudi Arabia? (srs)

    From my brief reading only Muslim brahs/brahettes are allowed in the entire city, however i also just saw an article how they recently relaxed laws and visas. However I do not know exactly what that means.


    If I don't speak fluent Arabic and don't practice Islam, can I still travel there? I would obviously respect all customs.


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    edit; unless this hasn't been updated recently, looks like I risk deportation from the country for attempting to enter. Lame.

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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    From my brief reading only Muslim brahs/brahettes are allowed in the entire city, however i also just saw an article how they recently relaxed laws and visas. However I do not know exactly what that means.


    If I don't speak fluent Arabic and don't practice Islam, can I still travel there? I would obviously respect all customs.


    Thanks


    edit; unless this hasn't been updated recently, looks like I risk deportation from the country for attempting to enter. Lame.

    https://wikitravel.org/en/Mecca

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    Pretty sure you’re trolling but if you ever get bored of freedom and girls in bikinis in the US, then sure go for it
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    I wouldn’t bother but I heard they love very square dudes and duck feet. Kill it.
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    You can't get in dumbchit; the new Tourist Visa allows people to get into the Kingdom but infidels will never be allowed into the cities of the Two Holy Mosques...

    There is a highway bypass to take you around Mecca:

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    unless you have family there why would you want to travel to either? especially the house of suad?

    nothing against the people of those countries as im sure they are just as good as people any where else but they are not safe places for north Americans or most Europeans even if you are a muslim.

    like the chic who posted the other day that her and three of her female friends were planing to back pack through turkey, use a little common sense.
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    You can't get in dumbchit; the new Tourist Visa allows people to get into the Kingdom but infidels will never be allowed into the cities of the Two Holy Mosques...

    There is a highway bypass to take you around Mecca:

    Thanks. ya i'd claim Canadian whenever possible but they still wouldn't like me. would definitely need to touch up on my Arabic prior but i'd still certainly be a noob and can't read it. eh maybe not this one


    edit; brah right above me ^ Arabic does interest me and i like to travel that's it bro. nothing more to it. i do my research prior but the rhetoric won't stop me from going to a place. i'm cool with skipping Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Yemen but ya that's about it. rest is open season
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    Originally Posted by latverian41 View Post
    unless you have family there why would you want to travel to either? especially the house of suad?

    nothing against the people of those countries as im sure they are just as good as people any where else but they are not safe places for north Americans or most Europeans even if you are a muslim.

    like the chic who posted the other day that her and three of her female friends were planing to back pack through turkey, use a little common sense.
    Actually, Saudi Arabia is incredibly safe as are all of the GCC countries. One of the biggest threats used to be road rage / traffic accidents but that is not as much of a problem in the cities anymore...
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Thanks. ya i'd claim Canadian whenever possible but they still wouldn't like me. would definitely need to touch up on my Arabic prior but i'd still certainly be a noob and can't read it. eh maybe not this one


    edit; brah right above me ^ Arabic does interest me and i like to travel that's it bro. nothing more to it. i do my research prior but the rhetoric won't stop me from going to a place. i'm cool with skipping Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Yemen but ya that's about it. rest is open season
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    Honestly that may be the only city in the world I would never want to visit
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    Go to Dubai if you are intent on wasting time and money in the Middle East; every Western Expat in the ME is counting their days until they can leave whether on vacay or for good. We were only there for the money...
    I'd rather go back to Jordan but i do want to hit turkey one day. Dubai doesn't interest me. If anything it'd be for just a few days max. en route somewhere else or whatever


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    Honestly that may be the only city in the world I would never want to visit
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    Actually, Saudi Arabia is incredibly safe as are all of the GCC countries. One of the biggest threats used to be road rage / traffic accidents but that is not as much of a problem in the cities anymore...
    safer maybe compared to other places in that part of the world but id hardly say "safe" by any means especially if you are american or jewish
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    I'd rather go back to Jordan but i do want to hit turkey one day. Dubai doesn't interest me. If anything it'd be for just a few days max. en route somewhere else or whatever
    Turkey is awesome and very safe except for the touts / ripoff bars which cater to dipchit tourists...
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    I was wondering about this lol. One article said they check your paperwork. have no idea what kind of 'paperwork' proves your faith. i could probably travel to Jeddah or elsewhere and meet a decent English speaking brah and get them to help me out. pay for the trip or whatever and they can teach me some chit to not completely stand out like a soar thumb. but y a paperwork is apparently strictly checked so i'd have to find out how that jazz works first.
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Sanaa? Baghdad?
    Baghdad always felt a mystery to me because of the all the 1001 nights stories I read as a kid.

    Dunno that Sanaa place.

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    Dayum Turkbrah - where you been? I was in Istanbul last year for business; stayed in Etiler...
    Been all most of the cities in Turkey while in military. Now I'm mostly in a coastal town by Aegean sea.

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    Originally Posted by Sinan09400 View Post
    Baghdad always felt a mystery to me because of the all the 1001 nights stories I read as a kid.

    Dunno that Sanaa place.

    Yemen. another great place


    maybe Mogadishu as well


    good thing is i have close fam right across the water in Djibouti that can move mountains to save me. but it does not interest me and i would not want to risk patriots' lives
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Yemen. another great place


    maybe Mogadishu as well
    Lol black hawk down. I've worked with people from Mogadishu before. Absolute yokels srs
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    We beheaded in village center by SomaliChik now...
    She recently recommended a place in Somaliland srs appeals to me.
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    safer maybe compared to other places in that part of the world but id hardly say "safe" by any means especially if you are american or jewish
    I lived in Dubai for 2 years and Saudi for over 5; have traveled to every country in the region except Iran, Israel and Yemen. Very safe for Americans who aren't clueless / have some SA..

    And Jewish people don't go to Arab countries playing tourist...
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    I lived in Dubai for 2 years and Saudi for over 5; have traveled to every country in the region except Iran, Israel and Yemen. Very safe for Americans who aren't clueless / have some SA..

    And Jewish people don't go to Arab countries playing tourist...
    This. try traveling to Lebanon on an Israeli passport or even a visa stamp from Israel

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    Convert to Islam
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    Convert back when you leave


    Flex to fellow infidels that you’ve been to mecca
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    I was wondering about this lol. One article said they check your paperwork. have no idea what kind of 'paperwork' proves your faith. i could probably travel to Jeddah or elsewhere and meet a decent English speaking brah and get them to help me out. pay for the trip or whatever and they can teach me some chit to not completely stand out like a soar thumb. but y a paperwork is apparently strictly checked so i'd have to find out how that jazz works first.
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    I lived in Dubai for 2 years and Saudi for over 5; have traveled to every country in the region except Iran, Israel and Yemen. Very safe for Americans who aren't clueless / have some SA..

    And Jewish people don't go to Arab countries playing tourist...
    what was Dubai like?
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