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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    Lel. kidding of course but i was curious how that works. how on earth do they prove your faith or lack thereof? just be like yo i'm new learning the ropes when they see u dont know chit
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    what was Dubai like?
    Hot and full of stupid people; there is no reason for Western people to go there except for work and yet idiots show up every day to find out there there is nothing to do except take a chit desert "safari" AKA camel ride and go to the shopping malls...

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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Lel. kidding of course but i was curious how that works. how on earth do they prove your faith or lack thereof? just be like yo i'm new learning the ropes when they see u dont know chit
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    Hot and full of stupid people; there is no reason for Western people to go there except for work and yet idiots show up every day to find out there there is nothing to do except take a chit desert "safari" AKA camel ride and go to the shopping malls...

    The Saudis love to go to Bahrain and Dubai so they can drink and chase sl00tz...

    i heard the income diversity is fking horrendous like u have extreme billionaires then alllllll these people that work for scraps aroudn you (literal scraps).


    Only thing i'd do if i was there is take a super car to/from abu dhabi and that's about it.
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Lel. kidding of course but i was curious how that works. how on earth do they prove your faith or lack thereof? just be like yo i'm new learning the ropes when they see u dont know chit
    Well according to google you need some type of proof (probably notarized) from a mosque that says you’ve converted and then you can apply for a visa

    So go to a mosque and tell them you want to convert? Document and post threads for the misc of journey sounds kinda lulzy
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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
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    you're not wrong but stupid questions like this is also how i learn u devil
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    Originally Posted by iwant2beswole View Post
    Well according to google you need some type of proof (probably notarized) from a mosque that says you’ve converted and then you can apply for a visa

    So go to a mosque and tell them you want to convert? Document and post threads for the misc of journey sounds kinda lulzy
    lol. maybe i can get document in Amman there were plenty of mosques all over duh and i felt very safe there. wonder how long it takes....i can only dedicate so much effort to this likely retarded idea. maybe just pay some phags a nice amount of dinar to mog my way there but then they'll think i'm a spy
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    Originally Posted by iwant2beswole View Post
    Well according to google you need some type of proof (probably notarized) from a mosque that says you’ve converted and then you can apply for a visa

    So go to a mosque and tell them you want to convert? Document and post threads for the misc of journey sounds kinda lulzy
    I think the Misc threads would hold more weight than the reciting the Shahada...
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    you're not wrong but stupid questions like this is also how i learn u devil
    Most of the younger Saudis, especially those educated in the West, do everything possible to avoid going to the clusterfcuk that is Mecca during the Hajj...
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    Originally Posted by JoeDelts View Post
    That guy is Shia who are the Saudi police / military's favorite target...
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    been to makkah a ton of times, including during hajj

    terrifyingly over crowded
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    Originally Posted by wildchild11 View Post
    been to makkah a ton of times, including during hajj

    terrifyingly over crowded
    ya i'd go outside of Hajj especially if i'm faking faith which i would be. out of respect or what have you. had to look up when it is but ya

    i can't say i'm a fan of huge crowds but this would be a unique experience to say the least i'd be fine. change of pace


    Can you speak at all of getting 'certified' or whatever you need to do for westerner who speaks hardly any Arabic? is it quick/easy? probably not but you never know. just for access to Mecca, would get it in Amman if possible
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    My understanding is that you need a visa, and in order to get a visa, you need a letter from an Imam.

    So you need to be a member of a Mosque. Going to Mecca is one of the 5 pillars.

    I think you need to be a Muslim.

    Particularly at certain times of the year, anyway.
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    So what you’re saying is diversity isn’t their strength? How can this be?
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    Originally Posted by ReadyToLift2019 View Post
    So what you’re saying is diversity isn’t their strength? How can this be?
    It's 100% like an entire city in America didn't allow any jews or muslims or whatever. Christians only. didn't mean to get political but yes it's very fukd.
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    For Mecca you'll need a visa. They just opened up tourist visas. They cost around $300-500 USD and they are already full for a few months. Also you will need approval by Saudis to obtain a Mecca VISA that costs about 6,000+ SAR (2-3k USD). There is a wait list and a screening you'll have to do. You'll fly into Jeddah then proceed to Mecca. You must be Muslim or work/know saudi royalty and pull lots of strings to get in if you're not Muslim. It's a pilgrimage that Muslims must do at least once for their religion. If you're serious good luck but dont have high hopes for getting in for 2-3 years.
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    I am working for the us govt in Riyadh atm doing intel gathering. Things are picking up here with the Yemenese terrorists being funded by Iran. Oilfields got hit a few weeks ago, a failed missile attack, mortar attacks near Yemen border and small arms fire. Basically Shiites are flexing against the Sunnis (Saudi). Saudi also is going through a regime change and a 2030 game plan to open it up like UAE there is a massive power struggle going on both publically, internally, politically and military. It's semi safe but things are drifting to chaos soon.

    For Mecca you'll need a visa. They just opened up tourist visas. They cost around $300-500 USD and they are already full for a few months. Also you will need approval by Saudis to obtain a Mecca VISA that costs about 6,000+ SAR (2-3k USD). There is a wait list and a screening you'll have to do. You'll fly into Jeddah then proceed to Mecca. You must be Muslim or work/know saudi royalty and pull lots of strings to get in if you're not Muslim. It's a pilgrimage that Muslims must do at least once for their religion. If you're serious good luck but dont have high hopes for getting in for 2-3 years.

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    Originally Posted by meenman83 View Post
    I am working for the us govt in Riyadh atm doing intel gathering. Things are picking up here with the Yemenese terrorists being funded by Iran. Oilfields got hit a few weeks ago, a failed missile attack, mortar attacks near Yemen border and small arms fire. Basically Shiites are flexing against the Sunnis (Saudi). Saudi also is going through a regime change and a 2030 game plan to open it up like UAE there is a massive power struggle going on both publically, internally, politically and military. It's semi safe but things are drifting to chaos soon.

    For Mecca you'll need a visa. They just opened up tourist visas. They cost around $300-500 USD and they are already full for a few months. Also you will need approval by Saudis to obtain a Mecca VISA that costs about 6,000+ SAR (2-3k USD). There is a wait list and a screening you'll have to do. You'll fly into Jeddah then proceed to Mecca. You must be Muslim or work/know saudi royalty and pull lots of strings to get in if you're not Muslim. It's a pilgrimage that Muslims must do at least once for their religion. If you're serious good luck but dont have high hopes for getting in for 2-3 years.

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    Ha no thank you. but noted. not too serious but things can change quickly with me.. you provided enough info. might just skip it for the time being. interesting chit no less..don't know your role nor care (persec...) [redacted, nothing special].
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    Why would you want to go in there anyway? There is nothing of importance in there, only one of the most delusional people in the world.
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    Actually, Saudi Arabia is incredibly safe as are all of the GCC countries. One of the biggest threats used to be road rage / traffic accidents but that is not as much of a problem in the cities anymore...
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    Originally Posted by Spahgetti View Post
    Lel. kidding of course but i was curious how that works. how on earth do they prove your faith or lack thereof? just be like yo i'm new learning the ropes when they see u dont know chit
    Ex-Muslims who are too chickenchit to tell their families or want to continue pretending like they're believers to reap the worldy benefits have done this in the past and still do it. So there's really no way of knowing.

    However, it used to be that anyone, as an individual can go to Mecca if they're Muslim. Now, you have to go as a group, usually led by an imam. They no longer allow just individuals to go there. So I reckon that's how the Muslim/Non-Muslim issue is laid to rest.

    PBS has done documentaries of visiting there. So it's not like non-Muslims are completely banned or anything.
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