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    So Hilary actually said the Republicans were grooming Tulsi

    I don't care what you guys all heard. Get your ears checked. Its her turn...… Seriously libs how are you going to spin this one? Still think the media isn't corrupt? It was on a podcast... we all heard it for ourselves

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    "In a curious turn of events, a number of major news organizations ran corrections Wednesday night over week-old reports that sparked a testy war of words between Hillary Clinton and Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.

    Last week, a number of media organizations, including the New York Times, CNN and Politico, ran reports saying Clinton told the podcast “Campaign HQ with David Plouffe” that Russians were “grooming” a female Democratic candidate — widely assumed to be Gabbard — for a third-party run to play a potential spoiler in the 2020 election.

    But apparently Clinton meant Republicans — not Russians — were doing the grooming."
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    I heard Clinton did say Russia...and it was the NYT that did a stealth edit on the original article and changed Russia to Republicans
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    EDIT: Wizard^^^^

    The NYT even tried to ninja edit an article that originally reported Hillary meant Russians. Pretty flagrant chit IMO.

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    I heard Clinton did said Russia...and it was the NYT that did a stealth edit on the original article and changed Russia to Republicans
    That’s exactly what happened
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    We don't have journalism here. We have propaganda outlets.

    They are following the book 1984 to a T.

    The job of the main character Winston is to search through magazines and newspapers and books and edit the old "truth" out and replace it with the new "truth." A few short years ago this kind of activity would have set off a storm of condemnation from everywhere. Now it's business as usual.

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    Nah guys republicans are just making up conspiracy stories.

    CNN, NYT are both upstanding outlets who would NEVER run partisan articles or favor a particular party while claiming to be impartial.

    Definitely wouldn’t stealth edit articles either. They always make public apologies when they get it wrong and defame someone on page 71.
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    Actually not sure what she meant. Because the first part of the quote she was obviously talking about the republican strategy. She mentioned russians after talking about the grooming. Could go either way but its fair to think she was still talking about the republicans.

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    Clinton: “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’

    “They’re also gonna do third party again.
    And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”
    its obviously easy to think she was talking about russians in that quote. sounds like shes saying the republicans are grooming her then says the russians also like her (of course they would like anybody who would split the vote against trump)

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    Actually not sure what she meant. Because the first part of the quote she was obviously talking about the republican strategy. She mentioned russians after talking about the grooming. Could go either way but its fair to think she was still talking about the republicans.



    its obviously easy to think she was talking about russians in that quote. sounds like shes saying the republicans are grooming her then says the russians also like her (of course they would like anybody who would split the vote against trump)

    you guys put no effort into understanding things.

    What do you mean it's not clear? She is CLEARLY stating it's the Russians. There is no 'Republican' alternative in this sentence. I have only heard of 'Russians' using 'Sites and Bots' by Dems.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.”
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    What do you mean it's not clear? She is CLEARLY stating it's the Russians. There is no 'Republican' alternative in this sentence. I have only heard of 'Russians' using 'Sites and Bots' by Dems.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s also a Russian asset.
    whats the point of quoting the part after the relevant bit?

    She started off talking about the strategy of the republicans and saying it will be like 2016 then said she thinks they will do third party again. THEN she says "They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate."

    logically following the answer suggests she was still talking about republicans. Its not complicated unless you let partisanship determine your thinking. Some of you are barely human anymore.

    “Well, I think there’s gonna be two parts and I think it’s gonna be the same as 2016: ‘Don’t vote for the other guy. You don’t like me? Don’t vote for the other guy because the other guy is gonna do X, Y and Z or the other guy did such terrible things and I’m gonna show you in these, you know, flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web, and nobody can find them, but you’re gonna see them and you’re gonna see that person do these horrible things.’

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate.
    its more logical concluding she meant the republicans. though it is a little confusing. The claim the media is corrupt for this correction is stupid. In fact they should not have concluded that she was talking about Russians in the first place if they were biased in favor of her.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    whats the point of quoting the part after the relevant bit? Do you know how english works?

    She started off talking about the strategy of the republicans and saying it will be like 2016 then said she thinks they will do third party again. THEN she says "They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate."

    logically following the answer suggests she was still talking about republicans. Its not complicated unless you let partisanship determine your thinking. Some of you are barely human anymore.

    You're the partisan here, not me. I'm Canadian, deep down I don't care who wins your elections.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s ALSO a Russian asset.

    This implies BOTH Tulsi AND Stein are Russian assets.
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    You're the partisan here, not me. I'm Canadian, deep down I don't care who wins your elections.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s ALSO a Russian asset.

    This implies BOTH Tulsi AND Stein are Russian assets.
    The 'Russian' word is mentioned twice in 3 phrases. This was no lapsus.
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    if she had said it once then maybe because everybody has a slip of the tongue sometimes and we know she usually has Russia on the mind anyway, but she said it multiple times and the context around it fit. it wasnt until she got backlash that the story changed
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    Makes me wonder if I myself am a Russian asset???

    How does one know for sure? Is there a check like a cop can’t lie and say he’s not a cop?
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    You're the partisan here, not me. I'm Canadian, deep down I don't care who wins your elections.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s ALSO a Russian asset.

    This implies BOTH Tulsi AND Stein are Russian assets.
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    Makes me wonder if I myself am a Russian asset???

    How does one know for sure? Is there a check like a cop can’t lie and say he’s not a cop?
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    whats the point of quoting the part after the relevant bit?

    She started off talking about the strategy of the republicans and saying it will be like 2016 then said she thinks they will do third party again. THEN she says "They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate."

    logically following the answer suggests she was still talking about republicans. Its not complicated unless you let partisanship determine your thinking. Some of you are barely human anymore.

    its more logical concluding she meant the republicans. though it is a little confusing. The claim the media is corrupt for this correction is stupid. In fact they should not have concluded that she was talking about Russians in the first place if they were biased in favor of her.
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    You're the partisan here, not me. I'm Canadian, deep down I don't care who wins your elections.

    “They’re also gonna do third party again. And I’m not making any predictions but I think they’ve got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that’s assuming Jill Stein will give it up. Which she might not, ‘cause she’s ALSO a Russian asset.

    This implies BOTH Tulsi AND Stein are Russian assets.
    The 'Russian' word is mentioned twice in 3 phrases. This was no lapsus.
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    So you aren't even arguing that she was still talking about the republican strategy when she said they were grooming her to be a third party candidate? You never directly tackle it. Even though that is the focus of the thread.

    If you just want to claim clinton thinks Tulsi is a russian asset regardless of what she was talking about re grooming, then its w.e. Just keep in mind there are multiple kinds of assets.

    There are different categories of assets, including people who:

    Willingly work for a foreign government for ideological reasons such as being against their government, but live in a country that doesn't allow political opposition. They may elect to work with a foreign power to change their own country because there are few other ways available.

    Work for monetary gain. Intelligence services often pay good wages to people in important positions that are willing to betray secrets.

    Have been blackmailed and are forced into their role.

    Do not even know they are being used (so called "useful idiots"). Assets can be loyal to their country, but may still provide a foreign agent with information through failures in information safety, such as using insecure computers or not following proper OPSEC procedures during day-to-day chatting.
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    We don't have journalism here. We have propaganda outlets.

    They are following the book 1984 to a T.

    The job of the main character Winston is to search through magazines and newspapers and books and edit the old "truth" out and replace it with the new "truth." A few short years ago this kind of activity would have set off a storm of condemnation from everywhere. Now it's business as usual.

    Our MSM is the enemy of the people.
    This is the truth. I think it’s a majorly bad sign that they’re marching forward pretending like we all can’t see what they’re doing. Imo that means they have no intention of stopping, ever. They’ll only stop if a war breaks out or they regain control of EVERYTHING.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    So you aren't even arguing that she was still talking about the republican strategy when she said they were grooming her to be a third party candidate? You never directly tackle it. Even though that is the focus of the thread.

    If you just want to claim clinton thinks Tulsi is a russian asset regardless of what she was talking about re grooming, then its w.e. Just keep in mind there are multiple kinds of assets.
    I did tackle it. She mentionned the words 'Russian' twice about Gabbard in the last 3 phrases of her statement. You do not make 2 'lapsus' in that short amount of time. It doesn't happen.

    I've never heard Hillary use the words 'Republican Assets' or that Republicans had a 'bunch of sites and bots'.

    I've heard Hillary/Dems mention 'Russian Assets' and that Russians had a bunch of sites and bots HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of TIMES in the last 4 years.

    I can keep wrecking your weak 'arguments' all day.
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    Originally Posted by tecom View Post
    I did tackle it. She mentionned the words 'Russian' twice about Gabbard in the last 3 phrases of her statement. You do not make 2 'lapsus' in that short amount of time. It doesn't happen.

    I've never heard Hillary use the words 'Republican Assets' or that Republicans had a 'bunch of sites and bots'.

    I've heard Hillary/Dems mention 'Russian Assets' and that Russians had a bunch of sites and bots HUNDREDS (if not thousands) of TIMES in the last 4 years.

    I can keep wrecking your weak 'arguments' all day.
    you're "wrecking" them in your head. that's fine. I am no psychologist so its w.e.
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    Actually not sure what she meant. Because the first part of the quote she was obviously talking about the republican strategy. She mentioned russians after talking about the grooming. Could go either way but its fair to think she was still talking about the republicans.



    its obviously easy to think she was talking about russians in that quote. sounds like shes saying the republicans are grooming her then says the russians also like her (of course they would like anybody who would split the vote against trump)

    you guys put no effort into understanding things.

    It's easy because she literally has said that she is groomed by Russians, she is Russians favourite, and that Jill Stein is ALSO a Russian asset. Now phuck off.
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    you're "wrecking" them in your head. that's fine. I am no psychologist so its w.e.
    Semitope just got fking wrecked. What a stupid argument by semitope. Just a freaking shill that needs to put a shirt on cuz no one wants to see his obese stomach
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    Originally Posted by Dyel1991 View Post
    Semitope just got fking wrecked. What a stupid argument by semitope. Just a freaking shill that needs to put a shirt on cuz no one wants to see his obese stomach
    Sorry I meant Tecom
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    Actually considering how socialist tulsi is I wouldn't doubt she had ties to communist govts
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    Originally Posted by Dyel1991 View Post
    Sorry I meant Tecom
    You were right the first time lol.

    I don't get how anyone can defend Hillary over this. She explicitly mentions both Tulsi and Jill Stein being Russian assets. She did this multiple times. The fact that history is being rewritten on what was actually said is kind of disturbing. Campaign Hilldawg 2020 might actually be in the works, she's obviously not fading into the background with this chit.
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    Was pretty pathetic. Hope she can claim Hilary ruined her reputation and sue.
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    Russians / Republicans

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    i guess it makes sense you guys have poor command of the english language

    Originally Posted by keyboardworkout View Post
    Russians / Republicans

    didnt want to make the comparison. but facts
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    i guess it makes sense you guys have poor command of the english language
    "Which she might not, cause she’s also a Russian asset.” ~ Hillary's own words
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    Originally Posted by Johnez View Post
    You were right the first time lol.

    I don't get how anyone can defend Hillary over this. She explicitly mentions both Tulsi and Jill Stein being Russian assets. She did this multiple times. The fact that history is being rewritten on what was actually said is kind of disturbing. Campaign Hilldawg 2020 might actually be in the works, she's obviously not fading into the background with this chit.
    Oh I know I was right the first time. Just trolling, changing who I was talking about after the fact. Like Hilary and the media.

    If this narrative actually succeeds in working that will be truly disturbing. Is Tulsi supposed to just play along with switch?
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