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    Post Expansive Durham Probe Could Give Trump Ammo



    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exp...eachment-fight

    U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation into the intelligence and law enforcement communities' handling of the Russia probe is quietly but steadily expanding under the shadow of the high-profile House impeachment inquiry against President Trump—and could represent something of a wild card in the president’s attempts to fight back.

    Attorney General Bill Barr appointed Durham, the U.S. attorney from Connecticut, to ensure intelligence collection activities by the U.S. government related to the Trump 2016 presidential campaign were “lawful and appropriate.”

    His probe reportedly will soon focus on the roles of key Obama administration intelligence officials like John Brennan and James Clapper. And it converges with other simultaneous investigations, including Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s probe of alleged Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses, which, coupled together, could give the president ammunition to attack his critics, even if the material does not directly relate to the Ukraine controversy fueling the impeachment push.

    “If the rumors are true that IG Horowitz’s report and findings in Durham’s review will blast the conduct of the FBI’s Russia investigation, it will give Trump a lot of ammo to support his argument that he was unjustly targeted then and is being unjustly targeted now,” a House GOP source told Fox News on Tuesday. “It will justify Trump’s warnings about the Deep State acting to hobble his presidency.”

    Trump claimed Tuesday that the impeachment push amounted to a "lynching" -- which touched off a round of fiery condemnation from Democratic critics.
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    Sadly, we both know Trump won't do chit beyond whining on Twitter.
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    Sadly, we both know Trump won't do chit beyond whining on Twitter.
    He won't need to, Half. Durham is a pit bull.
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    He won't need to, Half. Durham is a pit bull.
    A pitbull can only do so much when he's chained up out of reach of his real targets
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    Meh, they'll never fight dirty like the libs...and the country will likely be lost because of it.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    Meh, they'll never fight dirty like the libs...and the country will likely be lost because of it.
    Sadly this is how I feel,

    Libs will do anything because they control any blow back due to optics or narrative with their media propaganda arms so there is less risk. Republicans can have things blow up on them because they're not protected that way so they're more careful(safe).
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Sadly this is how I feel,

    Libs will do anything because they control any blow back due to optics or narrative with their media propaganda arms so there is less risk. Republicans can have things blow up on them because they're not protected that way so they're more careful(safe).
    The GOP are statist cowards

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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Sadly this is how I feel,

    Libs will do anything because they control any blow back due to optics or narrative with their media propaganda arms so there is less risk. Republicans can have things blow up on them because they're not protected that way so they're more careful(safe).
    They're called Cuckservatives for a reason. Trump can't teach them how to win because their whole gimmick is "losing with dignity" on every issue

    But in this case there's no way the uniparty is going to risk the filthy underbelly of their machine being exposed, when their paymasters are implicated they join forces to prevent anything being exposed.

    When Epstein broke his own neck by hanging himself with toilet paper it still wasn't enough to wake up the useful idiots who'll defend their team until the end.
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    Thank you for admitting that it's ok with you to do crime on the highest level as long as you can get away with it.
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    How is this going to help Trump?
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    How is this going to help Trump?
    "Expanding the investigation into 2016" is what got Trump in trouble in the first place. What could possibly go wrong?
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    "Expanding the investigation into 2016" is what got Trump in trouble in the first place. What could possibly go wrong?
    Yes, why suddenly are the Democrats against investigations?


    Oh, wait. They're only against investigations that aren't investigating Trump or Republicans...
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    Yes, why suddenly are the Democrats against investigations?


    Oh, wait. They're only against investigations that aren't investigating Trump or Republicans...
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    I agree the republicans are the weak party and that they don't break rules and even laws in their investigations and actions.

    However, the point is that if anything, it will support Trump in his re-election efforts in addition to the impeachment review.
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    No matter what comes out, the Democrats will say that Trump is using investigators to go after his political opponents and the media will loyally push the propaganda.

    Half the country will believe them without noticing the irony.

    We will be right back where we are today with the other half of us getting confirmation of what we already know.
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    I agree the republicans are the weak party and that they don't break rules and even laws in their investigations and actions.

    However, the point is that if anything, it will support Trump in his re-election efforts in addition to the impeachment review.
    How will it help with his impeachment if it's not related?

    could give the president ammunition to attack his critics, even if the material does not directly relate to the Ukraine controversy fueling the impeachment push.
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    How will it help with his impeachment if it's not related?
    Do you have a problem accepting election results?

    Why is the left such a threat to democracy?
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    Its pretty pathetic. Despite the mountains of evidence showing the Intelligence community pulling strings in the shadows, the party of civil liberties give zero chits. Unless Durham sends high level guys to prison, anything he digs up will go straight to the deepstate/media/CIA ignore list.
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    Do you have a problem accepting election results?

    Why is the left such a threat to democracy?
    Do you want to discuss your problem accepting Trump's impeachment?
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Its pretty pathetic. Despite the mountains of evidence showing the Intelligence community pulling strings in the shadows, the party of civil liberties give zero chits. Unless Durham sends high level guys to prison, anything he digs up will go straight to the deepstate/media/CIA ignore list.
    What evidence? Evidence of what?
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Do you want to discuss your problem accepting Trump's impeachment?
    What peach mint?

    Oh you mean that thing plastered pelosi keeps drunkenly sputtering about?

    Or maybe its what piece of schiff lied about in a fake call that never happened?

    Im sure you'll figure it out one day.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    What evidence? Evidence of what?
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    What peach mint?

    Oh you mean that thing plastered pelosi keeps drunkenly sputtering about?

    Or maybe its what piece of schiff lied about in a fake call that never happened?

    Im sure you'll figure it out one day.
    That started out like a yes but then was like all no.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Case and point
    No seriously...I have no idea what you're talking about.

    Mountains of evidence...of...

    Something?
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    That started out like a yes but then was like all no.
    Your reply sounds like the drunken response i would expect from pelosi.
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    Your reply sounds like the drunken response i would expect from pelosi.
    That's probably because YOU'RE drunk.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    Its pretty pathetic. Despite the mountains of evidence showing the Intelligence community pulling strings in the shadows, the party of civil liberties give zero chits. Unless Durham sends high level guys to prison, anything he digs up will go straight to the deepstate/media/CIA ignore list.
    I do not disagree. My point, for what it is worth, is that if the investigation is damning to certain individuals of the deep state, even though not much may happen, it may give Trump leverage in his case as the following quote from a House GOP member describes:

    "If the rumors are true that IG Horowitz’s report and findings in Durham’s review will blast the conduct of the FBI’s Russia investigation, it will give Trump a lot of ammo to support his argument that he was unjustly targeted then and is being unjustly targeted now."
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