Two College Students Arrested For Saying N-Word

[BFast55]

Seems a little heavy handed to say the least.

[rise21]

Theoretically, everyone of color on campus obviously

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Seems like a flimsy premise to restrict free speech.

[BFast55]

Imagine a mother walking down the street with her little boy who is also black and some white guys start yelling at him racial epithets. It's ridicule based on race.

But are you honestly in favor of jail time penalty for offensive speech? We China now?

[dabbmw2002]

The other dangerous thing here and this is looking into the future, if someone can record what you say and get you arrested, how soon before there are cameras that are audio capable that are being monitored from an police headquarters? Not so far farfetched.

[Dave22reborn]

But are you honestly in favor of jail time penalty for offensive speech? We China now?

He lives in Canada, wasn't a comedian fined like 17 grand for offensive speech over there? Or was that an urban legend?

[DuracellBunny]

The other dangerous thing here and this is looking into the future, if someone can record what you say and get you arrested, how soon before there are cameras that are audio capable that are being monitored from an police headquarters? Not so far farfetched.

You already have the things that listen for gunshots. A slight change to their programming is all it would need.

That isn't the real fear. What you should really be scared of is something like Alexa reporting you to the police if you use certain words.

[JoshSP1985]

oh my lord, I completely misunderstood and thought they were saying it towards an actual black person. I don't think it should be a crime to just say it in general...

edited out so it sounds like nothing

But you do think it should be a crime to say it at someone?

Lmfao

You serious?

[Dave22reborn]

The other dangerous thing here and this is looking into the future, if someone can record what you say and get you arrested, how soon before there are cameras that are audio capable that are being monitored from an police headquarters? Not so far farfetched.

Was this a "crime" in a town?

[wesleysh21]

I hope they learned their lesson. The number 1 rule about being a ninja is...don't talk about being a ninja.

Spoiler!

[BFast55]

He lives in Canada, wasn't a comedian fined like 17 grand for offensive speech over there? Or was that an urban legend?

Nope, but I think the fine you for mis-gendering people in certain places.

[Dave22reborn]

But you do think it should be a crime to say it at someone?

Lmfao

You serious?

I go to domestics all the time where the feme goes, "He needs to go, he called me a bitch." I can't kick someone out of their home for foul language.

In Tammy's world, it should lead to an arrest. Imagine the backlog in neighborhoods and courts in this liberal utopia, if it takes effect.

[Dave22reborn]

Nope, but I think the fine you for mis-gendering people in certain places.

Seriously? What if you don't know?

[badreligion]

they're being charged with ridicule, not just saying a racial word.

What the hell does that even mean? So does that mean when a black person calls a white person a cracker they can be charged with that too? They were stupid college kids being obnoxious and while it is repugnant it is not a crime seeing as it's protected by the first amendment. If this is the precedent they want to set then like others are saying, there are a lot of rappers and comedians who need to be charged too.

[Retoaded]

black people call black people N word all the time. thats OK, as it should be.

but this is not OK. so now we are prosecuting people based on guessing at their feels at the time.

[Dave22reborn]

What the hell does that even mean? So does that mean when a black person calls a white person a cracker they can be charged with that too? They were stupid college kids being obnoxious and while it is repugnant it is not a crime seeing as it's protected by the first amendment. If this is the precedent they want to set then like others are saying, there are a lot of rappers and comedians who need to be charged too.

The enlightened progressive didnt think that one through. How many high schools have committed the crime of "ridicule?"

[Peter Ruby]

Seriously? What if you don't know?

You best stay away from NY.

Also, ignorance isn’t an excuse, unless you’re Hillary.

[badreligion]

The enlightened progressive didnt think that one through. How many high schools have committed the crime of "ridicule?"

It's UCONN though, they are just worried about covering their own asses so they don't lose donations or anything. If this wasn't filmed I can guarantee this would have been handled internally or not at all.

[scheal]

sticks and stones...nah son....words

Is “whitey“ a racist term?

What about “ginger”

[Tamorlane]

What the hell does that even mean? So does that mean when a black person calls a white person a cracker they can be charged with that too? They were stupid college kids being obnoxious and while it is repugnant it is not a crime seeing as it's protected by the first amendment. If this is the precedent they want to set then like others are saying, there are a lot of rappers and comedians who need to be charged too.

It means someone should be able to be in public without being ridiculed (harassed) based on something like their skin colour.

So being in a fight and shouting some racial slur isn’t ridicule imo. But if a few people were following someone and harrassing and ridiculing them based on their skin colour then I don’t see a big problem with that being a crime. The slippery slope argument can be applied to anything.

So if two black men were following a white person and constantly ridiculing them by saying “cracker” or something known to be racist then they should be charged with a similar crime of ridicule.

I put it in this context so it’s easier for you to sympathize and understand.

[scheal]

Imagine a mother walking down the street with her little boy who is also black and some white guys start yelling at him racial epithets. It's ridicule based on race.

What if the mother is walking down the street with her baby and someone says “that’s a beautiful baby”. But the mother gets upset because the baby identifies as a golden retriever?

You liberals started this.....

[DuracellBunny]

What if the mother is walking down the street with her baby and someone says “that’s a beautiful baby”. But the mother gets upset because the baby identifies as a golden retriever?

That would be ruff

[badreligion]

It means someone should be able to be in public without being ridiculed (harassed) based on something like their skin colour.

So being in a fight and shouting some racial slur isn’t ridicule imo. But if a few people were following someone and harrassing and ridiculing them based on their skin colour then I don’t see a big problem with that being a crime. The slippery slope argument can be applied to anything.

So if two black men were following a white person and constantly ridiculing them by saying “cracker” or something known to be racist then they should be charged with a similar crime of ridicule.

I put it in this context so it’s easier for you to sympathize and understand.

There was no one in the video other than the two college students, so your logic fails.

[badreligion]

I said the same thing. Wtf does it even mean. See my post #20 for the answer. It's a law only in Connecticut.

edit: here it is:

But again, what constitutes "hate speech" no one can ever really say with any certainty

[Techriding101]

When should it be a crime?

When that panting white person behind the camera decides they've committed thought crime

[Tamorlane]

There was no one in the video other than the two college students, so your logic fails.

I know I realized that halfway through the thread after I watched the video. I don’t think they should have been charged with anything and they should plead not guilty.

[MyLastSerenade]

It raises interesting legal questions. If saying the word is illegal in and of itself, then a lot of rappers and black comedians are going to jail. If it's only illegal for people of certain ethnicities to say it, that would be an interesting supreme court case.

According to 23&Me, I'm 9% north African. Ize can haz N wordz?

He lives in Canada, wasn't a comedian fined like 17 grand for offensive speech over there? Or was that an urban legend?

Well, yes he was except that it was 42,000. Quebec Human Rights Tribunal (this is a thing)...

"requires Ward to pay $25,000 in moral damages and $10,000 in punitive damages to Jeremy Gabriel, who suffers from Treacher Collins syndrome — a condition that causes affects the development of bones and tissues in the face— for a joke he made about him at a show in 2010, the CBC reported. Ward has also been ordered to pay $5,000 in moral damages and $2,000 in punitive damages to Gabriel's mother, Sylvie Gabriel.

The tribunal sided with Gabriel, ruling that Ward had infringed on his right to have his disability, honour, and reputation safeguarded without discrimination, rejecting Ward's defence that there was a "clear difference between harassment against a person and an artistic work being produced before a willing audience," according to the Canadian Press."


While Ward said he was initially happy to defend Gabriel when others made fun of him, he'd been under the impression that he was a terminally ill child, being granted a dying wish by a children's foundation, he continued.

"But five years later, he wasn't dead, he's not dying," he quipped on stage. "The little bastard, he's just not dying."

Gabriel couldn't be killed, Ward continued, joking that he'd unsuccessfully tried to drown him once, and that when he looked up Gabriel's condition online, he found that it was being "ugly."


LMAO





https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/w...h-a-disability

[Stizzel]

We should just ban the letter N, it is nothing but trouble

[Techriding101]

It means someone should be able to be in public without being ridiculed (harassed) based on something like their skin colour.

So being in a fight and shouting some racial slur isn’t ridicule imo. But if a few people were following someone and harrassing and ridiculing them based on their skin colour then I don’t see a big problem with that being a crime. The slippery slope argument can be applied to anything.

So if two black men were following a white person and constantly ridiculing them by saying “cracker” or something known to be racist then they should be charged with a similar crime of ridicule.

I put it in this context so it’s easier for you to sympathize and understand.

but that isn't what happened at all.

What if two black men were following a black man and constantly saying ******, does it make it any different? Only if you treat people based on their race.

[anonymous]

I was like wtf does charged with ridicule even mean?? Then I googled it to see and all I see are 2 pages of this UConn case. On the 3rd page, I found this article from 2018:

https://reason.com/2018/08/06/racial...in-connecticu/



Seems very unconstitutional.

Like the other poster said, we UK now.

I skim over the tardposts in this forum, have any of our resident leftists agreed with the concept of arresting people for hurting feelings?

[backinbusiness]

Looks like all the rap artists, including those who are white are off to jail or to be fined for each occurrence right?

Leftists would be on board to jail anyone with a MAGA hat...