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    Falling backwards during squat fail

    This vid got me thinking decent squat stands like Rogue S2 / SML-2 with spotter arms are completely useless when you fall backwards. Is this kind of fail very rare? Even his unbolted rack moved a bit when he dropped the bar.

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    I disagree, and even might say the opposite. Being stuck in the rack, the bar would have folded him like a taco if he only had those bottom safeties and not the suspension ones. That could easily be a double hamstring pull. With an open/half rack, the bar simply falls onto the floor.

    Not great if you don't have bumper plates, but in terms of personal safety I'd rather dump the bar behind be than get pinned like that.
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    That's one of guys here who puts up amazing numbers (If I recall he was working on a different stance/foott placement when that happened) and if you look he has a rack, safeties and straps.
    Beyond falling back, I'd be worried about falling forward, losing footing and anything else that could go wrong which is why I would never advocate using squat stands.

    Like I said in my previous post about it, my view is Full rack >>Half rack>>>>>>>>>>>>Squat stands
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    Originally Posted by Sboarder1964 View Post
    I disagree, and even might say the opposite. Being stuck in the rack, the bar would have folded him like a taco if he only had those bottom safeties and not the suspension ones. That could easily be a double hamstring pull. With an open/half rack, the bar simply falls onto the floor.

    Not great if you don't have bumper plates, but in terms of personal safety I'd rather dump the bar behind be than get pinned like that.
    True but he would have had his safeties set at a different height had he not been using suspension straps.
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    True but he would have had his safeties set at a different height had he not been using suspension straps.
    This. I set my safeties a lot higher.
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    Originally Posted by Sboarder1964 View Post
    I disagree, and even might say the opposite. Being stuck in the rack, the bar would have folded him like a taco if he only had those bottom safeties and not the suspension ones. That could easily be a double hamstring pull. With an open/half rack, the bar simply falls onto the floor.

    Not great if you don't have bumper plates, but in terms of personal safety I'd rather dump the bar behind be than get pinned like that.
    LOL. What is wrong with you? He has those rack safeties set up for rack pulls. The hanging straps are for squats.

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    I think it would have hurt a bit more if I didn't have the safeties And cage. With out the rack the bar would have been thrown against my mass storage.
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    I went backwards once. First time in a squat suit. ended up pinning my hand between the bar and the flipdown safeties. It took a trip to the ER and some stitches to get my finger fixed, and still dont have feeling in half my finger.
    I dont squat with metal safeties anymore. I have straps hanging from the top like smokinhawk does.
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    I feel backwards and hurt my lower back from the sitting onto concrete with a loaded bar on my back. Wised up and ditched the cheapo titan squat rack and purchased a RM-6 from rogue.
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    What is the name of the straps hanging from the top like that compared to the straps between the uprights lower down?
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    ^ Tow/recovery straps?
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    Originally Posted by skithepowder View Post
    What is the name of the straps hanging from the top like that compared to the straps between the uprights lower down?

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    Originally Posted by skithepowder View Post
    What is the name of the straps hanging from the top like that compared to the straps between the uprights lower down?
    Those were actually ring straps from rogue. I wouldn't recommend using them. After a few catches like that some of the seems ripped as it wasn't designed for that.
    I have spud inc monolift safety straps now hung like that.
    The bottom safeties are the rogue safety straps
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    I keep meaning to build some sort of strap system to keep me from failing backwards in a half rack but haven't done it yet.
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