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    With AOC in His Corner, GOP Takes Fresh Look at Bernie

    'For a man obsessed with crowd size, President Trump has been eerily silent about a rally that’s the largest yet by a rival running to take him on in the 2020 election.

    On the same day that Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) got over 25,000 people to show up in support of his campaign at an event in Queens on Saturday, Trump was preoccupied with two entirely different ex-presidential contenders from 2016 and a current one polling in the low single digits.'



    “Anyone who counted out Bernie Sanders is going to be wrong,” former 2016 Trump campaign adviser Michael Caputo told The Daily Beast. “I see Bernie as far more formidable now than he ever was. With the endorsements from the freshman congresswomen, I think it brings a new life back into his campaign,” Caputo said, referencing both Ocasio-Cortez and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), who also endorsed Sanders.

    Caputo, a veteran Republican and pro-Trump campaign operative, sees many similarities between the Trump voters of 2016 and potential Trump or Sanders voters of 2020. With much of the presidential primary buzz centered around former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), he said it’s Sanders’ message that most closely aligns with swing voters, particularly in the Rust Belt, who went for Trump.

    “We see the support for socialism and for progressive values going up every year. Bernie Sanders brought that brand of politics to the presidential level,” he said. “You’d have to be pretty overconfident not to see the challenge he creates not just for Donald Trump but for the Democratic Party.”

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    i like bernie but his ideas are outdated and his ticker is sketchy, i think the man needs to rest
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    i like bernie but his ideas are outdated and his ticker is sketchy, i think the man needs to rest
    He's no technocrat but his ideas are solid. It's why he got support on Fox News, from Ann Coulter and even Donald Trump ("I like Bernie....he's tough on trade"). One of the reasons Trump was so popular was because people were beginning to seriously feel the effects of outsourcing that the republicans allowed to happen in favor of big business. Bernie was fighting for American workers back then before NAFTA was even signed. If the Congress had listened to him, America would have been in a better situation and the corporations would have had to do with a few billion less by paying Americans a decent wage for a higher quality product built in a plant with better standards than their third-world counterparts.



    Roy Beck, the president of NumbersUSA, a group that seeks to dramatically reduce legal and illegal immigration to the United States, said this week that after studying Sanders’ record and rhetoric, he sees some common ground.

    “I think in his gut he believes his obligation as president would be to the workers of America, not to the workers of the world,” Beck said in an interview.

    Rep. Steve King of Iowa, the adamantly pro-life co-chair of Sen. Ted Cruz’s presidential campaign who has dismissed global warming as a hoax and repeatedly supported shutting down the federal government, praised Sanders’ immigration stance several times in August.

    “I admire Bernie’s passion and I notice that his immigration position is closer to mine than it is some of the presidential candidates on the Republican side,” King said in an interview with an Iowa radio station over this past summer. “He’s said ‘Let’s take care of American workers.’ I’m all for that.”
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    dumb fuk liberals wanting socialism has no fuking clue what its really like.

    especially tammy
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    Bernie may have his diehard fans, but his heart attack effectively ended his chances.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    He's no technocrat but his ideas are solid. It's why he got support on Fox News, from Ann Coulter and even Donald Trump ("I like Bernie....he's tough on trade"). One of the reasons Trump was so popular was because people were beginning to seriously feel the effects of outsourcing that the republicans allowed to happen in favor of big business. Bernie was fighting for American workers back then before NAFTA was even signed. If the Congress had listened to him, America would have been in a better situation and the corporations would have had to do with a few billion less by paying Americans a decent wage for a higher quality product built in a plant with better standards than their third-world counterparts.





    Why Conservatives Praise Bernie Sanders on Immigration
    https://time.com/4170591/bernie-sand...conservatives/
    Come on, in terms of bipartisan reach no one in the Dem camp holds a candle to Yang:







    And regarding how bernie's economic ideas are outdated:






    but the man's heart is certainly in the right place and he's been fighting the same corner for decades now

    edit: just realised how that last sentence sounded lmao, was not going for a dig/pun
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    Originally Posted by EternaLovE View Post
    dumb fuk liberals wanting socialism has no fuking clue what its really like.

    especially tammy
    the only dumb ****s are the uneducated, brain rotted conservatives who keep crying socialism every time a candidate proposes any kind of social reform for the poor or expanded public services

    they did it with FDR, they did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Obama (who was one of the most right leaning democrats ever) and they're doing it now with sanders/yang/warren/whoever

    it's what you get when both naturally low IQ and intellectual laziness intersect
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    How do you libs think these far left wing peeps have "bi partisan reach"?

    Sure they aren't strict dems, but they are on the left side of every issue that tends to divide the country.
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    the only dumb ****s are the uneducated, brain rotted conservatives who keep crying socialism every time a candidate proposes any kind of social reform for the poor or expanded public services

    they did it with FDR, they did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Obama (who was one of the most right leaning democrats ever) and they're doing it now with sanders/yang/warren/whoever

    it's what you get when both naturally low IQ and intellectual laziness intersect
    We're uneducated because we realize that all of these programs will cost trillions and trillions of dollars?
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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    Come on, in terms of bipartisan reach no one in the Dem camp holds a candle to Yang:
    I watched the Shapiro one. Yang definitely has some right wing appeal but he is incredibly progressive which can be a turn off for conservatives, especially when his technologically progressive views leak over into his social views (and immigration). I like him though and think he brings a lot to the table. He recently did an AMA:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...drew_yang_ama/

    Yang: "Ah, it's the primary. Throwing energy behind me will only help. I'm one of only 2 candidates in the field that 10% or more of Trump voters say they would support in the general which gives me a better chance to beat Trump in the general than just about any other candidate, and I'm beating him in head-to-head matchups by 8 points in swing states. If you're looking to ensure Trump's defeat I'm the best bet or one of the best bets."

    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    How do you libs think these far left wing peeps have "bi partisan reach"?

    Sure they aren't strict dems, but they are on the left side of every issue that tends to divide the country.
    Sanders is what republicans are now looking for on trade as they go nationalist. He is 100% against free trade agreements and for protecting American workers. Decades of voting consistency while Trump was having his low-quality merchandise made in Chinese sweatshops.

    Do you expect these democrats to be on the right-wing side of divisive issues?
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    We're uneducated because we realize that all of these programs will cost trillions and trillions of dollars?
    America has spent $5.9 trillion on wars in the Middle East and Asia since 2001, a new study says
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/14/us-h...001-study.html

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    Originally Posted by isingmodel View Post
    the only dumb ****s are the uneducated, brain rotted conservatives who keep crying socialism every time a candidate proposes any kind of social reform for the poor or expanded public services

    they did it with FDR, they did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Obama (who was one of the most right leaning democrats ever) and they're doing it now with sanders/yang/warren/whoever

    it's what you get when both naturally low IQ and intellectual laziness intersect
    lmao. FDR is one of the most totalitarian, if not THE most, president in American history. Obama being right leaning is fukking laughable. Eisenhower had a high top marginal rate but the effective tax rate and tax revenue to GDP % is almost completely unchanged since then...How historically ignorant can you possibly be?
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    Thought you were supporting Warren, now you're back to supporting Bernie?
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    Sanders is what republicans are now looking for on trade as they go nationalist. He is 100% against free trade agreements and for protecting American workers. Decades of voting consistency while Trump was having his low-quality merchandise made in Chinese sweatshops.

    Do you expect these democrats to be on the right-wing side of divisive issues?
    It is okay to have a core issue that diverges from your party provided you mostly match the core of the voters and the divergent issue matches popular opinion.

    Take what you just said about Bernie. Against free trade and for protecting American workers... He is also big into government safety nets to include healthcare.

    This NECESSITATES a strongly controlled immigration system where only the net positive earners are allowed to immigrate. If he really wanted the above he has to diverge from the open borders stance of the current progressive party.
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    the only dumb ****s are the uneducated, brain rotted conservatives who keep crying socialism every time a candidate proposes any kind of social reform for the poor or expanded public services

    they did it with FDR, they did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Obama (who was one of the most right leaning democrats ever) and they're doing it now with sanders/yang/warren/whoever

    it's what you get when both naturally low IQ and intellectual laziness intersect
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    First words on OP

    "For a man obsessed with crowd size."

    You can just see the hate in the writing, sad.
    Boyo, are saying that Trump's not obsessed with crowd size? Can you not even admit that much about him?

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    Why Conservatives Praise Bernie Sanders on Immigration
    https://time.com/4170591/bernie-sand...conservatives/
    You keep knowingly posting false/outdated information regarding Bernie. He's woke now.

    Hes for mass amnesty and open borders for anyone who can enter America. Thats Fact.

    With that said, yes, "true conservatives" do support that.

    Pick one:

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    the only dumb ****s are the uneducated, brain rotted conservatives who keep crying socialism every time a candidate proposes any kind of social reform for the poor or expanded public services

    they did it with FDR, they did it with Eisenhower, they did it with Obama (who was one of the most right leaning democrats ever) and they're doing it now with sanders/yang/warren/whoever

    it's what you get when both naturally low IQ and intellectual laziness intersect
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    If the Congress had listened to him, America would have been in a better situation and the corporations would have had to do with a few billion less by paying Americans a decent wage
    I see... so what what you're saying then is when corporations make less money, they're able to pay their employees more?

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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    One of the reasons Trump was so popular was because people were beginning to seriously feel the effects of outsourcing that the republicans allowed to happen in favor of big business.
    Lmao at acting like Outsourcing is a republican thing. Selling out the US is as bi-partisan as it gets. Also Obama did nothing in 8 years about it either.
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    I see... so what what you're saying then is when corporations make less money, they're able to pay their employees more?

    Interdasting.
    lol, you SAD people who worship at the alter of big business. Like they give a phuk about you. They'll pay you as little as they possibly can and you'll like it. Regardless if they make 1% or 50% margins.

    Man you people put your faith into the oddest things...SMH
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    Thanks OP. I needed a good laugh this morning.


    lol at delusion liberals thinking Bernie will even win the nomination, let alone the Presidency.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lol, you SAD people who worship at the alter of big business. Like they give a phuk about you. They'll pay you as little as they possibly can and you'll like it. Regardless if they make 1% or 50% margins.

    Man you people put your faith into the oddest things...SMH
    Statement like these are why people accuse you of lying about being well-off. You talk about economics like the average 21 year old.
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