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    Is anyone here pro-abortion until birth?

    I have some questions and would like to understand your position and logic.
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    I'm pro choice but hells to the no on that.
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    Originally Posted by Legz422 View Post
    I'm pro choice but hells to the no on that.
    Up until what point?
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    Not pro abortion.

    Pro choice with some caveats- as in I think that a limited time period on abortion with no medical cause is reasonable.

    Never heard of "abortion until birth". But if you mean late term abortion then IMO that is a very different thing and falls more under euthanasia.

    I believe a woman that has carried a child for that long actively wants to have a baby. Truly late abortions are something I can't imagine a doctor being okay with except in extreme circumstances where the child is truly not viable; as in the child would have a very poor quality of life and/or would die very quickly after birth.

    It seems cruel to me to knowingly force a woman to go through the trauma of childbirth knowing that on the other side she is facing a dead/dying baby.
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    Pro abortion but not that late. UNLESS!!!! They will be paralyzed, have downs, severely retarded. In those cases I feel it should have a later term abortion than legally allowed, but not right before it pops out.
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    Up until what point?
    I prefer up to only 12 weeks, but I am ok with longer if there is a good medical reason for it. I don't really think about this so can't give a definite cut off when medical issues are a reason. I didn't know up to term was even a thing. I also may not come back to this thread as I don't want to see a description of that.
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    Lol wat? Is this a real thing? Youโ€™re thinking like a serial killer abortion dr?
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    I have to say Iโ€™m not necessarily until birth but Iโ€™m not sure exactly what trimester or weeks in Iโ€™m okay with. Certainly abortion is a far better option than being born into a broken home or to dysfunctional family. Though Iโ€™d say I would have to do a little research to say which trimester I agree with it up until. Thing is the earth is way overpopulated and we need a way to curb this problem from a multifaceted approach. As Dr William glasser says the most, or one of the most important factors in successfully raising a child is a functional relationship between the mom and dad.
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    I think a woman (especially a cheerleader) should be able to give birth and bury the body afterward without consequence
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    One of my exs is a surgeon, blabla, told me that after 3 months an abortion is made by cutting and extracting parts that you can recognize as hands, legs, head of the baby, so it's pretty sad, after that, they vacuum the womb.

    I'm pro abortion, but not after the baby looks like a mini human.
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    Originally Posted by Legz422 View Post
    I prefer up to only 12 weeks, but I am ok with longer if there is a good medical reason for it. I don't really think about this so can't give a definite cut off when medical issues are a reason. I didn't know up to term was even a thing. I also may not come back to this thread as I don't want to see a description of that.
    doctors can terminate the baby IF the mom is likely to die in child birth
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    No wtf

    Nobody is ok with that right?

    I am not entirely sure on my position and luckily never had to think about it. But I think I would only be ok with aborting a child with serious genetic defect like Downs or similar highly disabling defect. Would never abort a healthy child.
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    Originally Posted by RoxyFoxy22 View Post
    One of my exs is a surgeon, blabla, told me that after 3 months an abortion is made by cutting and extracting parts that you can recognize as hands, legs, head of the baby, so it's pretty sad, after that, they vacuum the womb.

    I'm pro abortion, but not after the baby looks like a mini human.
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    i think abortion is wrong altogether.
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    Originally Posted by VegasLifter26 View Post
    i think abortion is wrong altogether.
    Even if the baby isn't going to make it?

    Curious about people that hold this position. It isn't like childbirth is risk free for the mother.

    Even now in the US something like 24 in 100K women die giving birth. And:

    For every U.S. woman who dies as a consequence of pregnancy or childbirth, up to 70 suffer hemorrhages, organ failure or other significant complications
    So a woman should suffer the pain, trauma, and potential serious complications or death for a baby that will not live more than a few days? Weeks? Can you even give a specific number of breaths the child must draw to make it worth the mother's suffering?
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    Originally Posted by FrankCostanza View Post
    doctors can terminate the baby IF the mom is likely to die in child birth
    What most people don't realize is that the mother still has to deliver the baby... Aborting the pregnancy may be necessary for the health of the mother but aborting a pregnancy does not have to equal murdering a baby.
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    In for answers

    I respect everyone's right to an opinion and I'm not interested in changing minds,
    but once you follow the problem through to the conclusion without emotion, pro life is the only morally and logically consistent stance
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    Tbh I often wish I were aborted. I should have been in 1960. That would be the goat year for money possibilities. I could be a billionaire rn if I was
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    Originally Posted by Jessejame5 View Post
    In for answers

    I respect everyone's right to an opinion and I'm not interested in changing minds,
    but once you follow the problem through to the conclusion without emotion, pro life is the only morally and logically consistent stance
    Your SO is raped and impregnated by three escaped convicts - still pro-life...
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    i'm anti abortion but think it should still be allowable up to a certain point but only like the end of the first trimester

    plus i think getting abortions should be frowned upon and stigmatized
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    i think abortion is wrong altogether.
    Agreed. Keep your Dick in your pants and keep your legs closed rather than exterminating life.
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    Lol who the phuck is pro abortion til birth? Like a week before the due date you decide nahh, abort it.
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    Originally Posted by strenffgains View Post
    Lol who the phuck is pro abortion til birth? Like a week before the due date you decide nahh, abort it.
    There are people that believe in abortion after birth.

    "When circumstances occur after birth such that they would have justified abortion, what we call after-birth abortion should be permissible. โ€ฆ We propose to call this practice โ€˜after-birth abortionโ€™, rather than โ€˜infanticide,โ€™ to emphasize that the moral status of the individual killed is comparable with that of a fetus โ€ฆ rather than to that of a child. Therefore, we claim that killing a newborn could be ethically permissible in all the circumstances where abortion would be. Such circumstances include cases where the newborn has the potential to have an (at least) acceptable life, but the well-being of the family is at risk."

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    Originally Posted by AkshullyizDaren View Post
    i'm anti abortion but think it should still be allowable up to a certain point but only like the end of the first trimester

    plus i think getting abortions should be frowned upon and stigmatized
    Have no problem with this.

    IMO past that though would be a window for defects found during screening which is done between 15 and 20 weeks. IOW a medical reason to terminate. I know many people wouldn't choose to terminate for some birth defects and I get that. And I also get that for some people the added time and expense of a special needs child could be more than they can manage.

    Beyond a termination stemming from that initial screening window (24 weeks?) I could see it going to a panel of some kind (doctors, not judges) when there is some extreme circumstance for the mother's life or the child's to be approved.
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    im for abortions at any time.

    a baby born into a family that doesn't want it, can't support it, more likely to be a net negative to society and will cost the taxpayers. why not give them an out?
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    Originally Posted by pechorin View Post
    im for abortions at any time.

    a baby born into a family that doesn't want it, can't support it, more likely to be a net negative to society and will cost the taxpayers. why not give them an out?
    It's easy to find someone to adopt babies.
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    Originally Posted by pantiespending View Post
    I have to say Iโ€™m not necessarily until birth but Iโ€™m not sure exactly what trimester or weeks in Iโ€™m okay with. Certainly abortion is a far better option than being born into a broken home or to dysfunctional family. Though Iโ€™d say I would have to do a little research to say which trimester I agree with it up until. Thing is the earth is way overpopulated and we need a way to curb this problem from a multifaceted approach. As Dr William glasser says the most, or one of the most important factors in successfully raising a child is a functional relationship between the mom and dad.

    Being dead is better than having a difficult life? What the fuk? Babe Ruth, Nelson Mandela, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jamie Foxx, Steve Jobs...all have something in common: they were adopted kids. Oprah Winfrey was molested and ran away from home at age 13. Jim Carrey lived in a van as a child. Woody Harrelson's dad was a serial killer. Kelsey Grammar's dad, sister, and two half brothers all died. I guess all those people would have been better off dead since their childhoods might have sucked?

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