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    Oh do tell. How?
    The Campaign to Suppress Counterrevolutionaries
    The actual number killed during land reform is believed to have been lower, but at least one million people.[138][141] The suppression of counterrevolutionaries targeted mainly former Kuomintang officials and intellectuals suspected of disloyalty.[142] At least 712,000 people were executed while 1,290,000 were imprisoned in labor camps.[143]
    The Great Leap Forward and the Great Chinese Famine
    Benjamin Valentino claims that the Great Leap Forward was a cause of the Great Chinese Famine and the worst effects of the famine were steered towards the regime's enemies.[144] Those labeled as "black elements" (religious leaders, rightists and rich peasants) in earlier campaigns died in the greatest numbers because they were given the lowest priority in the allocation of food.[144] In Mao's Great Famine, historian Frank Dikötter writes that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history".[145] Dikötter estimates that at least 2.5 million people were summarily killed or tortured to death during this period.[146] His research in local and provincial Chinese archives indicates the death toll was at least 45 million: "In most cases the party knew very well that it was starving its own people to death".[147] In a secret meeting at Shanghai in 1959, Mao issued the order to procure one third of all grain from the countryside, saying: "When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill".[147] In light of additional evidence of Mao's culpability, Rummel added those killed by the Great Famine to his total for Mao's democide for a total of 77 million killed.[148]
    The Cultural Revolution
    Sinologists Roderick MacFarquhar and Michael Schoenhals estimate that between 750,000 and 1.5 million people were killed in the violence of the Cultural Revolution in rural China alone.[149] Mao's Red Guards were given carte blanche to abuse and kill the ones perceived to be enemies of the revolution.[150] For example, in August 1966, over 100 teachers were murdered by their students in western Beijing.[151]



    Mao, Stalin, and Hitler were the 20th century’s 3 great monsters, in order of casualties from their tyranny. Following are the estimated death tolls, not counting military casualties:

    Mao - estimated 50–80M, mostly from starvation and political purges. The Great Leap Forward from 1958–60, an ill-conceived program to show the superiority of the Communist system in iron and rice production, resulted in the majority of the deaths. as Mao exported rice and forced the destruction of agricultural equipment in an attempt to show the world the glory of collectivization. 20–40M starved to death. The remainder were from political purges while Mao consolidated power in the early 1950s and while eliminating dissent during the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s.

    Stalin - estimated 20M deaths, that were largely a precursor to Mao. Up to 10M died during the collectivization of Ukrainian agriculture. The rest were from political purges as Stalin’s paranoia filled the Gulag.

    Hitler - about 12M in the Holocaust, half of them Jews. Few of them were political opponents or dissenters, they were simply undesirables according to regime ideology. Most of these were systematically rounded up and sent to work and death camps, where they served as slave labor until they died of exhaustion or were simply gassed or gunned down then incinerated.



    Thing is - CCP loves to kill Chinese - their own people.
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    as much as i want to help hong kong, i dont see trump messing up his chances for a trade deal. unfortunately i think theyre on their own.
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    Originally Posted by Tamorlane View Post
    you're a ****ing idiot lol. Leave your mom's basement for once.
    You ever gonna pick up a history book and actually read it?
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    Mass killings of landlords under Mao Zedong

    Part of Mao Zedong's land reform during the late phase of the Chinese Civil War[1] and the early People's Republic of China[2] was a campaign of mass killings of landlords[3] in order to redistribute land to the peasant class and landless workers,[13] causing the deaths of upwards of hundreds of thousands to millions.[7][10][4] Those who were killed were targeted on the basis of social class rather than ethnicity, except for certain provinces where it was an ethnic conflict against ethnic minorities in China. The neologism "classicide" is used to describe the killings.[4] Class-motivated mass killings continued almost throughout the 30 years of social and economic transformation in Maoist China. Out of an estimated 10 to 15 million landlords, Harry Wu claims that 85–90% of them were either killed or fled overseas, especially from South China.[4][14]

    1 event alone killed almost the same amount if not more people than Holocaust.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    You guys would get rekt so hard its not even funny.

    You guys do realize we outnumber you like 50 to 1, right? Im just making sure you know that because its quite important, especially when fighting..
    The days of numbers being king are long gone. China would get wrecked in a military conflict with the US.
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    unless they discover oil underneath Hong Kong, we ain't helpin nobody
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    You ever gonna pick up a history book and actually read it?
    It is pretty amazing most American's and others knowledge of China's history.

    But not surprising if you consider the education wing of America's and even say Canada's political leanings...
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    The days of numbers being king are long gone. China would get wrecked in a military conflict with the US.
    China wood wrek america so hard its not even funni. Russia don't even like America and they gots more nukes than the US. Russia is just waiting for something to pop off just so they can git a chance at the US. Funni thing is that the US cant even take Russia by themselves. What on earth are you thinking that the US can take on the giant military beast that china is?
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    Originally Posted by tyn89 View Post
    You ever gonna pick up a history book and actually read it?
    lol this. Mao is responsible for more deaths than any other regime in modern history. But I wouldnt expect some post-modern neo-marxist phaggot to know that since Adolf is the left's flavor of the week, edgy, villain who is so popularly equated to Trump
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    China wood wrek america so hard its not even funni. Russia don't even like America and they gots more nukes than the US. Russia is just waiting for something to pop off just so they can git a chance at the US. Funni thing is that the US cant even take Russia by themselves. What on earth are you thinking that the US can take on the giant military beast that china is?
    First, learn to spell if you're going to talk the most important language on Earth. You type like a young girl, it's annoying.

    I have no idea why you think the US couldn't beat Russia in a war, because they could. Of course if it went nuclear, everyone loses.

    China would lose horribly to the US in a conventional war, again if it went nuclear I guess everyone loses. US rules the seas, has a long military tradition and is capable of projecting force.

    China has none of these things. When was the last time China won a war? There was Korea where they outnumbered the US about 20:1 and got smashed. Before that, the civil war where they wrecked themselves. That was about the time the Japanese invaded and the Chinese were too weak and useless to repel them personally and had to wait for the USSR to bail them out.

    Face it, China sucks at war.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    You guys would get rekt so hard its not even funny.

    You guys do realize we outnumber you like 50 to 1, right? Im just making sure you know that because its quite important, especially when fighting..
    How many times did japan conquer china?
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    China wood wrek america so hard its not even funni. Russia don't even like America and they gots more nukes than the US. Russia is just waiting for something to pop off just so they can git a chance at the US. Funni thing is that the US cant even take Russia by themselves. What on earth are you thinking that the US can take on the giant military beast that china is?
    you sound exactly like one of those "china numba won" mtfkers. china has no modern military experince, inferior (stolen) tech, and only one ally that is of any military concern to the us. dont forget nato. there is zero chance china wins in a war with the us.
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    Originally Posted by bobmuscle View Post
    lol this. Mao is responsible for more deaths than any other regime in modern history. But I wouldnt expect some post-modern neo-marxist phaggot to know that since Adolf is the left's flavor of the week, edgy, villain who is so popularly equated to Trump
    Yes, under mao people were eating their own dead children to survive. Hitler never came up with anything that brutal
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    China is literally praying Trump loses, PRAYING
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    First, learn to spell if you're going to talk the most important language on Earth. You type like a young girl, it's annoying.

    I have no idea why you think the US couldn't beat Russia in a war, because they could. Of course if it went nuclear, everyone loses.

    China would lose horribly to the US in a conventional war, again if it went nuclear I guess everyone loses. US rules the seas, has a long military tradition and is capable of projecting force.

    China has none of these things. When was the last time China won a war? There was Korea where they outnumbered the US about 20:1 and got smashed. Before that, the civil war where they wrecked themselves. That was about the time the Japanese invaded and the Chinese were too weak and useless to repel them personally and had to wait for the USSR to bail them out.

    Face it, China sucks at war.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    China wood wrek america so hard its not even funni. Russia don't even like America and they gots more nukes than the US. Russia is just waiting for something to pop off just so they can git a chance at the US. Funni thing is that the US cant even take Russia by themselves. What on earth are you thinking that the US can take on the giant military beast that china is?
    Tempted to neg for typing "funni" like a child.
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    Big company like Blizzard Activision have chose their side and its not the side with bald eagles
    Blizzcon is in less than a month. Expect massive protests & fukkery to take place over there. I'm not a PC gamer but a console gamer all the way. Its bizarre to see Blizzard that owned the PC gaming market for 20 years and then shoot themselves in the foot multiple times. The first time was last year when they were developing a game for mobile gamers. That was essential a sellout move towards the Chinese.
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    China wood wrek america so hard its not even funni. Russia don't even like America and they gots more nukes than the US. Russia is just waiting for something to pop off just so they can git a chance at the US. Funni thing is that the US cant even take Russia by themselves. What on earth are you thinking that the US can take on the giant military beast that china is?
    lol, so you're a Chinese communist then, gotcha
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    Lol.

    Like I said, Merica cannot even beat a small Russian country. Any F-35 or stealth fighters that gets through Russia's furst line of defense are automatically hit with a war head that is set out from miles away. The nuclear fallout is than scattered over other countries but Russia woulnt give a fk. So there goes literally all of your air superiority. And if US keeps talking that smack, China gonna git in on it and say goodbye to game of thrones.

    Now China is 10x larger than Russia with more nukes, more weapon, more soldiers, and more money. Youre fkn out of your mind and your ignorance would git you wreked. It seems like most of you guys forget that during the Chinese dynasties, they had FOOKIN HUGE standing armies. HUGE. And they still do, bb.
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    Take a step back and imagine bernie or Warren/Harris trying to talk trade to china.

    They have more important things like 9 year old trans kids feeling safe; meanwhile trump is telling china to fuk themsleves. And righrifully so after all their human rights violations.

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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Yes, under mao people were eating their own dead children to survive. Hitler never came up with anything that brutal
    damn seeiously?
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    Originally Posted by tunafishha View Post
    Lol.

    Like I said, Merica cannot even beat a small Russian country. Any F-35 or stealth fighters that gets through Russia's furst line of defense are automatically hit with a war head that is set out from miles away. The nuclear fallout is than scattered over other countries but Russia woulnt give a fk. So there goes literally all of your air superiority. And if US keeps talking that smack, China gonna git in on it and say goodbye to game of thrones.

    Now China is 10x larger than Russia with more nukes, more weapon, more soldiers, and more money. Youre fkn out of your mind and your ignorance would git you wreked. It seems like most of you guys forget that during the Chinese dynasties, they had FOOKIN HUGE standing armies. HUGE. And they still do, bb.
    10/10 Trolling lol.
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    you're a ****ing idiot lol
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    How many times did japan conquer china?
    none. the war became a stalemate in 1942, and the Japanese were losing a war of attrition. Not to mention they had to spend most of their resources on the Navy to fight America, which were useless against the Chinese who retreated into Western China which was mostly jungle and mountains. Japanese Army was pretty dumb too, as they demoted everyone who opposed starting a total war with China and America at the same time. Japan knew they only had a 6 month window to beat America, hence the battle of Midway.
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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    China has already infiltrated the western real estate markets, our entertainment industry and making our corporations bow to them

    probably infiltrating our education system with the help of American communists like sillie and arighold

    not to mention western elites who own everything don't want to piss off their golden goose

    so i'd say the threat is not so empty
    Sure, but what they do by acting is validate themselves as the enemy which would give further support to decoupling.

    They're not big enough yet to stand on their own which is also why they should be cut down ASAP.
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    If China says something they usually mean it. Gotta take it seriously IMO. But we're already doing a great job turning on each other and tearing our country apart.
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    Sure, but what they do by acting is validate themselves as the enemy which would give further support to decoupling.

    They're not big enough yet to stand on their own which is also why they should be cut down ASAP.
    they do have the second biggest american political party on their side
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