It’s time to admit.... there is no “far left fringe” on the democratic side

[Polaris]

6 figures philosophy major checking in

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethi...dont-suck/amp/

Doing what (inb4 you won't tell us)?

[GreatOldOne]

Doing what (inb4 you won't tell us)?

Software developer

[Dorich]

All the numbers say that having a degree vastly increases your lifetime earnings. Do you think these are false as well? Don't like lifetime earnings? Average annual earnings are way higher too. If there were so many underemployed folks with degrees out there, why is the average so much higher than those without degrees?

I really don't know what to say about this.

[Polaris]

Software developer

Due to your Philosophy degree?

I really don't know what to say about this.

Is it absurd?

[Dorich]

Is it absurd?

Yeah, among other things.

[SillieBazzillie]

And blanket statements about a group of people doesn't make you right.

Correct. But again, my conclusion is based on numbers not feels.

[Dorich]

Correct. But again, my conclusion is based on numbers not feels.

You have absolutely no idea about anything that's going on.

Lol...

If you only knew of the things I know.

Like, you're completely out of touch with reality. And you are filled with hate, and empty, without any spirituality.

I'm in a whole other world my friend, connected with the entire universe in ways you can't even imagine.

[isingmodel]

You don't need to waste money to get "educated" in those topics. Especially now with all the open courseware shyt available. MIT has ALL of its courses available online for free, YouTube has all kinds of Full Semesters of lectures from Ivy League Schools, Khan Academy, countless other resources.

This brainwashed BS narrative is why you have so many idiots spending 10s of thousands (sometimes even hitting 6 figures) on worthless degrees and then looking for someone like Bernie or Pocahontas to come along and bail them out. Encouraging kids to get Humanities/Liberal Arts/similar disagrees is simply irresponsible in the vast majority of cases. Derping about "lol conservatives hate education" doesn't change that.

What part of "any college educated person on average earns more than a non college educated person" is difficult to grasp? Yes those of us in the STEM master race generally do best but you're still far better off getting a humanities degree than you are not having a degree. And the more time you spend in education the higher your eventually salary continues to go.

[GreatOldOne]

Due to your Philosophy degree?



Is it absurd?

Well yes, that was my degree.

Logic, math, statistics, philosophy of science, philosophy of social science, philosophy of mind and AI...lots of psychology...all that has played a role in my career.

Those classes are not easy btw... A lot of people flunk philosophy and get all pissed lol.

A lot of philosophy people go into law.

First real job was programming for survey data...I got experience with that doing an honors thesis.

I'm almost 43, so have been programming for quite a while now...worked in some pretty interesting things over the years. Social research. Anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing. Lots of data stuff.

Kind of a winding road...but yeah, it did start with philosophy and psychology as well.

You pick up a lot of programming on the job when you have to solve various problems. If you know how to think in programming terms (logic), you can work across different languages and platforms and figure it out.

You don't have to be a computer engineering or science major to get into programming.

[randombrah102]

Another typical leftist response claiming that anyone who has health insurance has a "fuk you, I got mine" attitude.

I also have a nice house and nice cars. Do you support Bernie on Housing for All? Cars for All?

Sure, the US's healthcare system can be improved. But, Medicare for All is not the answer. It will take a comprehensive bipartisan effort

tecom, being a Canadian, gives an honest assessment of Canada's healthcare system. Anything similar in a much larger market like the US would be a disaster and 100X worse in service and care.

Society is constantly progressing and improving, I think at one point we will be able to provide houses for all. Cars for all? You mean transportation? Like public transportation? Hmm...

And why does the larger market of the U.S mean it will be a failure? Larger population = more tax revenue too. Conservatives always bring up the larger population but never explain why it will be bad.

I live in Canada and have been waiting to see a specialist since march 2 years ago. When I asked my doctor if it would be better to go somewhere I could pay for a specialist he finally caved and gave me their phone number. Im still waiting to make an appointment. They dont just make appointments, they call you when they are ready to make one. No dates or timelines just have to wait and suffer.

Canada healthcare is so awesome.

Im so lucky I have a job that could accommodate me when I was at my worst. Or Id have lost my home.

Anecdotal evidence. I can show dozens of examples of Canadians online happy with their healthcare and can show dozens of Americans online whose life has been ruined by medical debt. Thats why we try to rely on studies instead of coming up with the saddest sob story.

Survival of the fittest. It’s a sad but true reality that’s been around since the beginning of time.

Unless you’re crippled with MS or some other physical illness and can’t work, you don’t deserve a single penny from the tax payers. The economy is great right now, so there’s no excuse not to be doing well.

Why do we have police then? Survival of the fittest right? Never in my life have I needed the police for anything yet my tax money funds them. Why?

[Dave22reborn]

What part of "any college educated person on average earns more than a non college educated person" is difficult to grasp? Yes those of us in the STEM master race generally do best but you're still far better off getting a humanities degree than you are not having a degree. And the more time you spend in education the higher your eventually salary continues to go.

You remind me of my co-worker's wife bragging about her 3 Master's Degrees, in Art History, Sociology, and English. Her husband never went college, he was in the Marine Reserves. Guess which one was unemployed?

[Dave22reborn]

Society is constantly progressing and improving, I think at one point we will be able to provide houses for all. Cars for all? You mean transportation? Like public transportation? Hmm...

And why does the larger market of the U.S mean it will be a failure? Larger population = more tax revenue too. Conservatives always bring up the larger population but never explain why it will be bad.





Anecdotal evidence. I can show dozens of examples of Canadians online happy with their healthcare and can show dozens of Americans online whose life has been ruined by medical debt. Thats why we try to rely on studies instead of coming up with the saddest sob story.



Why do we have police then? Survival of the fittest right? Never in my life have I needed the police for anything yet my tax money funds them. Why?

Why do Canadians with money come to the US for treatment if their healthcare is so superior?

And "free" housing for all huh? You really see that happening? Also, public transportation costs money, and people like driving their own cars.

[Dave22reborn]

Then explain why those with actual degrees make FAR more than those without. I've been asking this multiple times with no reply. If there are so many people getting worthless degrees, why do those WITH degrees crush those without in earnings by ANY metric?

Yes, if you get a degree in something worthwhile, you will make more money. If you get it in something worthless, hopefully your family owns a business, otherwise you're going to be making my Nitro Cold Brew.

[randombrah102]

Why do Canadians with money come to the US for treatment if their healthcare is so superior?

And "free" housing for all huh? You really see that happening? Also, public transportation costs money, and people like driving their own cars.

Probably for specialists and experts in certain fields and the like. When people talk about a nations healthcare being better its usually criteria like accessibility, quality and efficiency on a nationwide scale. That in no way means the U.S can't have the best doctor in something.

And yea I do. Two hundred years ago the idea of 1-12th grade public education would have been laughable and yet here we are.

[Dave22reborn]

Probably for specialists and experts in certain fields and the like. When people talk about a nations healthcare being better its usually criteria like accessibility, quality and efficiency on a nationwide scale. That in no way means the U.S can't have the best doctor in something.

And yea I do. Two hundred years ago the idea of 1-12th grade public education would have been laughable and yet here we are.

You believe that everyone in the future will have a "free" house? An actual house? Billions of people on the planet, and every single one of them will have a "free" house....

And if universal healthcare is so superior, than why are the world's best hospitals in the US?

[jtaylor2010]

Well yes, that was my degree.

Logic, math, statistics, philosophy of science, philosophy of social science, philosophy of mind and AI...lots of psychology...all that has played a role in my career.

Those classes are not easy btw... A lot of people flunk philosophy and get all pissed lol.

A lot of philosophy people go into law.

First real job was programming for survey data...I got experience with that doing an honors thesis.

I'm almost 43, so have been programming for quite a while now...worked in some pretty interesting things over the years. Social research. Anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing. Lots of data stuff.

Kind of a winding road...but yeah, it did start with philosophy and psychology as well.

You pick up a lot of programming on the job when you have to solve various problems. If you know how to think in programming terms (logic), you can work across different languages and platforms and figure it out.

You don't have to be a computer engineering or science major to get into programming.

Experience in psychology, sociology, philosophy, programming, and to a lesser extent corruption & terrorism. Just imagine how much you could bring to the board if you didn’t feel the need to play the role of a TDS sufferer.

[jtaylor2010]

Yes, if you get a degree in something worthwhile, you will make more money. If you get it in something worthless, hopefully your family owns a business, otherwise you're going to be making my Nitro Cold Brew.

Just look at the increase in the amount of people pursuing useless degrees because the govt. got into the student loan business. Simply saying “you don’t have to pay for it right now” was enough to flood colleges with people. Imagine if we say “you don’t have to pay for it ever”. But of course we’d all be paying for it.


I do agree with paying for most(if not all) of degrees from 2 year colleges and trade school costs for students though. Give people college experience and get them ready to transition to a 4 year college if they want. I think they’d be much more likely to finish, as well as pick a good program. And for trades it gives people who may not do well in traditional school an avenue to significantly improve their worth and value. Obviously there would have to be stipulations, but overall I think that could be a great system. Plus the cost of those schools/programs is relatively inexpensive, so we could get a great ROI by having a much better workforce, and on top of that they’d have more spending money/less debt. As usual the best path seems to be in the middle somewhere.

[isingmodel]

You remind me of my co-worker's wife bragging about her 3 Master's Degrees, in Art History, Sociology, and English. Her husband never went college, he was in the Marine Reserves. Guess which one was unemployed?

Your worthless anecdotes don't change the fact that all college grads are statistically more employable and earn more than non college grads, and the effect is proportional to how educated you are. Even a mall cop shouldn't be struggling that hard with this surely?

I have a masters in physics but even if I was an english major, I'd still be better off than if I hadn't gone to college.

[AlwaysFocus]

This is the truth. Meanwhile, Canada opened the floodgates to immigration at the yearly rate of the equivalent of Nova Scotia's population. They ALL take advantage of our healthcare system and flood it as soon as they get citizenship. This makes it extremely hard for people that have lived here for 10+ generations to get decent access to Healthcare. Socialism is so backwards. You have to grow up in it and live it to understand it.

Basically, Socialism is GREAT if you come from anywhere but the welcoming Country.

Ironically, once these same immigrants have been here for 2-3 generations: they also get fuked up the ass hard with no lube just like the rest of us.

America, PLEASE FIGHT to move things further RIGHT so Canada is FORCED to follow suit like the CUCKS that 'we' are. I'm not even kidding. American Patriotism and strong nationalism needs to be the coolest thing ever and remain that way for decades to come. This should teach Canada to grow some balls and eventually, hopefully, tell the U.K. government to go fuk themselves.

there is a reason they incorporated ID with the care card in Canada, we get taken advantage of because of our good nature, its so good here, that the ones taken care of are ****ing us over because of feels! Just come to Canada its free! Meanwhile the people who built the system crumble under hard taxes.

Fuk man imagine how many people raped our system before the government had to step in and say you need ID for healthcare.

[ButWhoWasNoodz]

there is a reason they incorporated ID with the care card in Canada, we get taken advantage of because of our good nature, its so good here, that the ones taken care of are ****ing us over because of feels! Just come to Canada its free! Meanwhile the people who built the system crumble under hard taxes.

Fuk man imagine how many people raped our system before the government had to step in and say you need ID for healthcare.

Sounds pretty racist of Canada. I mean, how do the elderly and the inner-city residents obtain IDs? Leftists tell me they are incapable of doing so for some reason in the US and people who suggest everyone obtain IDs to vote are literal nazis.
The same leftists who tell me "the US needs to do things like other countires" seem to get pretty upset when it's suggested we do IDs such as these like Canada does. Odd.

[SillieBazzillie]

Just look at the increase in the amount of people pursuing useless degrees because the govt. got into the student loan business. Simply saying “you don’t have to pay for it right now” was enough to flood colleges with people. Imagine if we say “you don’t have to pay for it ever”. But of course we’d all be paying for it.


I do agree with paying for most of not all of 2 year colleges and grade school costs for students. Give people college experience and get them ready to transition to a 4 year college if they want. I think they’d be much more likely to finish, as well as pick a good program. And for trades it gives people who may not do well in traditional school an avenue to significantly improve their worth and value. Obviously there would have to be stipulations, but overall I think that could be a great system. Plus the cost of those schools/programs is relatively inexpensive, so we could get a great ROI by having a much better workforce, and on top of that they’d have more spending money/less debt. As usual the best path seems to be in the middle somewhere.

This is a great idea.

[JewishSuperHero]

Prioritizing medicare for illegal immigrants while United States veterans are left out in the cold is one absolutely far left example, and should be seen as the insult that it is to every law abiding American citizen.

Yeah. That totally would be. Who exactly doesn’t want Medicare for our veterans but wants it for undocumented immigrants?

[Dave22reborn]

Your worthless anecdotes don't change the fact that all college grads are statistically more employable and earn more than non college grads, and the effect is proportional to how educated you are. Even a mall cop shouldn't be struggling that hard with this surely?

I have a masters in physics but even if I was an english major, I'd still be better off than if I hadn't gone to college.

If you have a BA in Art History, and you're working at Starbucks, than how are you better off?

Mall cop? Sorry guy, I'm usually answering useless calls, by people who contribute nothing to society. "Your son won't go to sleep, and you called us why?" I would ask where the father is, but we all know the answer to that question.

[Dave22reborn]

This is a great idea.

Thought people like you would look down on those who go to community college?

[cashinout]

Just look at the increase in the amount of people pursuing useless degrees because the govt. got into the student loan business. Simply saying “you don’t have to pay for it right now” was enough to flood colleges with people. Imagine if we say “you don’t have to pay for it ever”. But of course we’d all be paying for it.


I do agree with paying for most(if not all) of degrees from 2 year colleges and trade school costs for students though. Give people college experience and get them ready to transition to a 4 year college if they want. I think they’d be much more likely to finish, as well as pick a good program. And for trades it gives people who may not do well in traditional school an avenue to significantly improve their worth and value. Obviously there would have to be stipulations, but overall I think that could be a great system. Plus the cost of those schools/programs is relatively inexpensive, so we could get a great ROI by having a much better workforce, and on top of that they’d have more spending money/less debt. As usual the best path seems to be in the middle somewhere.

community college is already essentially free for people who can't afford it

trade schools are begging people to join

again, we have a left that is outraged about problems that don't exist

it's cute

[anonymous]

Sounds pretty racist of Canada. I mean, how do the elderly and the inner-city residents obtain IDs? Leftists tell me they are incapable of doing so for some reason in the US and people who suggest everyone obtain IDs to vote are literal nazis.
The same leftists who tell me "the US needs to do things like other countires" seem to get pretty upset when it's suggested we do IDs such as these like Canada does. Odd.

They would be especially mad if we adopted Canada's immigration policy too, since it was largely merit based. At least it was, before Turdeau put a ****li refugee in charge of ruining it.

[Dave22reborn]

community college is already essentially free for people who can't afford it

trade schools are begging people to join

again, we have a left that is outraged about problems that don't exist

it's cute

I guess they believe room and board should be free as well....

[messomi]

If you only knew of the things I know.

Like, you're completely out of touch with reality. And you are filled with hate, and empty, without any spirituality.

this is absurd insanity

[cashinout]

I guess they believe room and board should be free as well....

why stop there? Every student should get a free personal assistant

[GreatOldOne]

Experience in psychology, sociology, philosophy, programming, and to a lesser extent corruption & terrorism. Just imagine how much you could bring to the board if you didn’t feel the need to play the role of a TDS sufferer.

I invented TDS