Lol every couple decades a candidate who wants to significantly expand publicly funded programs/social services crops up and every time hordes of uneducated spergs that constitute the right wing come out to call them far left communists
Happened with FDR, happened with Eisenhower, happened a bit with Obama, now it's happening with Sanders like clockwork
These dudes are going to be in for a hell of a shock when universal healthcare, basic income etc all become mainstream during their lifetimes. Thankfully absolutely nobody cares what conservatives think
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10-11-2019, 02:03 PM #31Misc Crypto Crew
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10-11-2019, 02:05 PM #32
Another typical leftist response claiming that anyone who has health insurance has a "fuk you, I got mine" attitude.
I also have a nice house and nice cars. Do you support Bernie on Housing for All? Cars for All?
Sure, the US's healthcare system can be improved. But, Medicare for All is not the answer. It will take a comprehensive bipartisan effort
tecom, being a Canadian, gives an honest assessment of Canada's healthcare system. Anything similar in a much larger market like the US would be a disaster and 100X worse in service and care.Helping one person may not change the world, but it could change the world for one person.
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10-11-2019, 02:22 PM #33
I live in Canada and have been waiting to see a specialist since march 2 years ago. When I asked my doctor if it would be better to go somewhere I could pay for a specialist he finally caved and gave me their phone number. Im still waiting to make an appointment. They dont just make appointments, they call you when they are ready to make one. No dates or timelines just have to wait and suffer.
Canada healthcare is so awesome.
Im so lucky I have a job that could accommodate me when I was at my worst. Or Id have lost my home.
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10-11-2019, 02:28 PM #37
Survival of the fittest. It’s a sad but true reality that’s been around since the beginning of time.
Unless you’re crippled with MS or some other physical illness and can’t work, you don’t deserve a single penny from the tax payers. The economy is great right now, so there’s no excuse not to be doing well.
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10-11-2019, 03:22 PM #38
Until the '70s college tuition in California was free. If you want a better, smarter, richer, stronger country you need to have an educated group of citizen's.
Medicare for all or "socialized" health care makes sense to 90% of the industrial world. Just US likes to waste money on buerocracy and middle men. Why do we pay more for less in a supposedly free market system? Why is our maternal death rate higher than most other first world countries?
Dems have the ticket on health and education. Everything else they are whackadoos on tho. Immigration, economy, 2A, etc.Virtue is its own reward.
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10-11-2019, 03:24 PM #39
You linked a paper based on data from 1997 and a website that looks to be formatted by a freshman in college that does a piss poor job of explaining their rankings only to show that Canada at 37 million people is "ranked" slightly better than the US at 327 million people.
And here you are saying we're having the breakdown. Just fukking lol, son.***Mariah Carey is my 10/10 Crew***
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10-11-2019, 03:57 PM #40
Good post, are you a republican in the US?
One of the overlooked benefits of a universal health care system:
Medical Bankruptcy Is Killing The American Middle Class
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/medi...ass-2019-02-14
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/11/this...ankruptcy.html
A new study has found that a horrifying 530,000 families turn to bankruptcy each year due to medical bills they can’t pay. In the end, it’s easier to declare bankruptcy than to allow oneself to drown in medical expenses.
That’s how you know when a country is broken.
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10-11-2019, 04:59 PM #44
I'm far left...
No offence (I like you man)... But I don't think you've done much research into far left philosophy or communities.
Far left people literally do not call democrats/liberals leftists, they call the centrists. I'm ded srs.
This guy is far left...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0YAzSCeVDk
Being pro-capitalist (even Social Democracy like Bernie proposes is just a form of capitalism) is staunchly opposed by the far left. Socialist economic theory is at the core of the far left political philosophy.If You Don't Like To Talk About Your Feelings, This Might Help...
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10-11-2019, 06:26 PM #45
Independent, mostly conservative.
I've voted for Bush, Paul, Obama, and Clinton (yes I'll feckin admit it lol).
In addition to medical bankruptcy we have student loans sapping young Americans purchasing power. We're going to see it in housing eventually and we're already seeing auto sales down. I think the real problem in education is the emphasis on 4 year degrees though. Don't need that for the jobs we're going to need and need already, and yet we are pumping out liberal arts degrees like crazy. STEM should be STTEM (with the second T being trades), not this new STEAM emphasis...Virtue is its own reward.
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10-11-2019, 07:31 PM #47
This is the truth. Meanwhile, Canada opened the floodgates to immigration at the yearly rate of the equivalent of Nova Scotia's population. They ALL take advantage of our healthcare system and flood it as soon as they get citizenship. This makes it extremely hard for people that have lived here for 10+ generations to get decent access to Healthcare. Socialism is so backwards. You have to grow up in it and live it to understand it.
Basically, Socialism is GREAT if you come from anywhere but the welcoming Country.
Ironically, once these same immigrants have been here for 2-3 generations: they also get fuked up the ass hard with no lube just like the rest of us.
America, PLEASE FIGHT to move things further RIGHT so Canada is FORCED to follow suit like the CUCKS that 'we' are. I'm not even kidding. American Patriotism and strong nationalism needs to be the coolest thing ever and remain that way for decades to come. This should teach Canada to grow some balls and eventually, hopefully, tell the U.K. government to go fuk themselves.
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10-11-2019, 10:23 PM #54
universal health care and "free" college are things right wingers in other countries are fine with. Some promote. Somehow you brainwashed tools of the filthy rich think that makes someone a far left person. I still don't get how stupid one must be to be so rabidly against taxing companies and people making thousands more than they do a higher rate so their kids can go to school without debt or they can get health care. When politics gets in front of your self interest. You'd rather the people telling you this is socialism be able to continue milking the country for all its worth while you're hell bent on preventing yourself from getting a slice.
Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
"Scientists say" ?
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10-11-2019, 10:41 PM #55
Now that is quite the rant.....
Also, sell me on why I should pay for the medical costs of someone who's morbidly obese, a drug addict, an alcoholic, a chain smoker, etc.
As for college, you're not entitled to go to college. That's a choice you make. And my taxes shouldn't go up, because you want to major in philosophy, or basket weaving....
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10-12-2019, 06:25 AM #59
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I'm confident that when the primaries start and the eventual dem winner is known, they'll start to move to the center. Their internal polling will tell them the surest way to beating the Orange Menace will be to move to the center and pound him on his idiocy, healthcare, declining economy, increased illegal immigration, and massive increase in the debt.
There's no way they run on a platform of free healthcare for illegals or open borders. They'll also move off of nationalized healthcare and bring back Obamacare in some fashion.Early AM workout crew.
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10-12-2019, 06:26 AM #60
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