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    Thoughts on calorie trends over time?

    So this data is for the bulk I've been on over the past few months, but this forum tends to get better/more serious responses and it is related to calorie tracking/TDEE etc.

    Anyway, here are the weekly averages for my calories and weight over the past few months:

    1 - 3450 +1lb
    2 - 3960 +.75lb
    3 - 3630 +.2lb
    4 - 3500 +1.8lb
    5 - 3900 +2lb
    6 - 3600 +1lb
    7 - 3680 no change
    8 - 3930 +2lb
    9 - 3570 +2lb
    10 - 3640 +.5lb
    11 - 3440 +.5lb
    12 - 3400 +1.6
    13 - 3900 +1.75lb
    14 - 3990 +3.25lb
    15 - 4190 + .74lb

    Starting weight 168, current weight 189

    Yes, I know it's too much too fast, and I have gone up in body fat, but my lifts have improved and I'm not TOO fat, can still see outline of abs...

    Anyway - what are your thoughts on this tracking over several weeks? My takeaway is TDEE is not a fixed number and CICO changes day to day, which is why I make sure to eat a lot so I ensure I gain weight.

    Week 4 I ate 3500kcal and went up almost 2lb...week 7 I ate more (3680) and weight stayed the same...I'm too impatient I guess to "try" to eat 200 kcal above for a lean bulk because even after years of lifting I don't know what my TDEE really is lol.
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    I think the real question is, if you gained 10 lbs over that time or if you gained 21 lbs, would you still have gained the same amount of muscle? I had one bulk where i gained 25 lbs, and another where I gained only 12. I actually made better gains in the weight room off the 12 lb bulk running the same exact program and didn't have to spend nearly as much time stripping the fat back off.

    From now on I'm no longer going to just do all out "bulks" where I pack on 25-30 lbs, I think they may actually be counter productive to the entire process.
    All it takes is consistency, effort, proper nutrition, good programming, and TIME.
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    Originally Posted by xsquid99 View Post
    I think the real question is, if you gained 10 lbs over that time or if you gained 21 lbs, would you still have gained the same amount of muscle? I had one bulk where i gained 25 lbs, and another where I gained only 12. I actually made better gains in the weight room off the 12 lb bulk running the same exact program and didn't have to spend nearly as much time stripping the fat back off.

    From now on I'm no longer going to just do all out "bulks" where I pack on 25-30 lbs, I think they may actually be counter productive to the entire process.
    Yep, the more fat you put on the longer it takes to lose it...and the longer you cut, the more you risk dropping lean mass and losing the gains from the bulk...I've struggled with this too...I think I also go overboard on bulking because I get in all the binge eating I deprive myself of on the cuts lol.

    Can't argue with bulking slower - I guess the point of the thread was a commentary on how unpredictable 'maintenance' calories can be. Week to week I seem to have different TDEEs.
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    I'm still new to serious bulking and counting calories. I've also noticed it's very hard to get an actual number on your TDEE.

    I did a 5month bulk this year. I was trying to be lean, but ended up being dirty, I found it hard to figure out what that magic number was. But looking back at my graph, and can easily trace a straight line (over the wobbly one) which actually gives quite an accurate TDEE of 2850. But it was hard at the time to get that number. This was because some weeks my weight wouldn't change, and then suddenly jump up, or I'd go to a wedding and eat to much. I guess now in hindsight, I can go back and see exactly what my TDEE is was and try go exactly 200 up that, and just trust that that is my TDEE even if I can't measure it within a few weeks.

    I think one month my weight barely changed, it was really frustrating, cause I wanted to be "Clean". So I ate a bit more, then my weight jumped suddenly!! It's hard, don't know that other peoples experience is?

    I think tracking BF% with calipers and waist size is just as important
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