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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    If we keep giving ourselves reasons to stay in the Middle East, we'll never leave. Just the way it is.
    Not a fan of Erdogan. No matter how you feel about us being over there, he is not good for the interests of the USA.
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    Originally Posted by BuckNakedinBama View Post
    Yup. We shouldn't help the Kurds form a discriminatory ethnostate.
    We took out Saddam. What more do they need?
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    Originally Posted by JoshSP1985 View Post
    The timing is close enough that we knew this was coming when we started pulling Troops.

    It wouldn't be out of the ordinary to coordinate with a NATO ally.
    That's all it is too.

    I hope people don't get an impression that repositioning a few assets is fulfilling a campaign promise to get out of the middle East and stay out of useless wars.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Supposedly, it's a land grab in order to have an area to relocate/repatriate the Syrian refugees that are in Turkey that they don't want to take care of anymore. The Kurds had told them that only the ones that are originally from that region (i.e. only the Kurdish ones) should be allowed to be repatriated there, but that wasn't going to fly with the Turks, who want nothing to do with any of the tens of thousands of Syrians they are currently babysitting.
    I think maybe you're misunderstanding what he was saying (not sure if he realizes it either, however).

    The Kurds have taken massive amounts of land in Northern Syria.

    More than likely the Turks will end up pushing the Kurds back to Iraq.
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    Originally Posted by dmike100 View Post
    Not a fan of Erdogan. No matter how you feel about us being over there, he is not good for the interests of the USA.
    And yet Obama could have resolved this by not outright supporting Erdogan from returning to Turkey during the coup. Obama pledged the support of the US to Erdogan when he could have just left it alone.
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    Trump seeks to distance himself from Turkish invasion of Syria

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...asion-of-syria

    "This morning, Turkey, a NATO member, invaded Syria. The United States does not endorse this attack and has made it clear to Turkey that this operation is a bad idea," Trump said in a statement issued by the White House.
    Called his bluff immediately after he tweeted out his "great and unmatched wisdom"
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    Originally Posted by dmike100 View Post
    Not a fan of Erdogan. No matter how you feel about us being over there, he is not good for the interests of the USA.
    Access to the Black Sea says we'll put up with him for the time being.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    Trump seeks to distance himself from Turkish invasion of Syria

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...asion-of-syria



    Called his bluff immediately after he tweeted out his "great and unmatched wisdom"
    What bluff? Turkey already said they were invading. I see McKane is back
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    Originally Posted by BuckNakedinBama View Post
    Yup. We shouldn't help the Kurds form a discriminatory ethnostate.
    That could set a bad precedent
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    What bluff? Turkey already said they were invading. I see McKane is back
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    I think maybe you're misunderstanding what he was saying (not sure if he realizes it either, however).

    The Kurds have taken massive amounts of land in Northern Syria.

    More than likely the Turks will end up pushing the Kurds back to Iraq.
    Pure coincidence that the majority of Syria's natural resources mostly fell within the land the Kurds took

    The Kurds have probably realized by now that there's only one ME country that's allowed to have it's own ethno-state
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    Originally Posted by KINGFABIAN View Post
    trump running his foreign policy like his University.
    speaking of university

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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
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    And what's your point? He literally says in that quote that he made it clear to Turkey that its a bad idea. The Kurds knew our stay wasn't forver, its on them to finally handle their own ****
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    Originally Posted by Halfway View Post
    Pure coincidence that the majority of Syria's natural resources mostly fell within the land the Kurds took
    It not a coincidence because that is the land that ISIS took (in both Syria and Iraq) to get the resources. Remember, they were there taking back territory from ISIS as our ally.
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    lol wtf isn't Turkey the Ally? And a NATO member.
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    Shocker, we leave the ME and it goes to ****. If these people want to kill each other for eternity then let them.
    This is leaving the Middle East just like when we denuclearized North Korea and saved Alabama from that hurricane.
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    Turkey initiating the conflict means they can't call NATO to help, right?

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    I always thought the Kurds were our allies when we allied with them in fighting terrorists.
    trump says no, therefore... for these guys anyway... thats a no
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
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    "This morning, Turkey, a NATO ALLY, invaded Syria. The United States does not endorse this attack and has made it clear to Turkey that this operation is a bad idea," Trump said in a statement issued by the White House.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    It not a coincidence because that is the land that ISIS took (in both Syria and Iraq) to get the resources. Remember, they were there taking back territory from ISIS as our ally.
    Yes, ISIS as our ally did the legwork for Barry's handlers in splitting off the resources from Assad.

    Time to give them back to the Syrian people, we should also rebuild everything we destroyed and hand over the planners of the "civil war" so the Syrians can string them up as punishment
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    Originally Posted by RoccoSifred View Post
    This is my primary problem with the whole situation. Everyone lost their minds over Obama releasing GITMO prisoners. Now we have a regional ally holding 8k seasoned ISIS fighters. When the SDF starts being overrun by the Turks...they aint gonna stick around to make sure those 8k ISIS boyos are going to stay in their cells. Weird how everyone ITT is suddenly cool with 8k ISIS fighters getting set free.

    What should have been done was a negation with the Turks & Kurds. We provide protection for Kurds in exchange for them not interferring with the Turks. Pull our troops out, they continue to hold/execute ISIS prisoners. Win win for everyone.

    Instead we just greenlighted the release of those prisoners

    Trump has made it clear to Turkey that they better care about those prisoners.
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    Anyone remember all those muslim terrorist attacks against the USA from 1950-1990?

    gotta fight them there guys
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post


    "..in my great and unmatched wisdom"



    And now there are reports of thousands ISIS fighters and their families breaking free out of prison camps?

    Lol, How many foreign policy L's can a guy take?
    Trump's wording here is cringeworthy, but hitting Turkey economically could actually work here unlike with countries like Iran or Russia. Turkey has had a pretty bad year economically and the insane economic boom of the last decade played a huge role of cementing Erdogan's power.

    Sadly Erdogan seems to be too much of a megalomaniac douche to make diplomatic solutions possible.
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    Originally Posted by pengh View Post



    lol wtf isn't Turkey the Ally? And a NATO member.
    Lets not let NATO ally status get in the way of a good propaganda headline.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post


    "..in my great and unmatched wisdom"



    And now there are reports of thousands ISIS fighters and their families breaking free out of prison camps?

    Lol, How many foreign policy L's can a guy take?
    that's a real tweet? even from him... its a bit...

    well he's a very stable genius, so...

    can just imagine the outrage if Obama had talked about himself like this.
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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    Our boy Sinan1234 about to go balls deep in some raw Kurdish puss.

    Originally Posted by joecayse View Post
    Trump: "Hey these endless middle eastern wars are stupid."
    Libs: "WTF I LOVE WAR NOW"
    I vote Liberal and this hypocrisy is fukkin PISSING me off.
    pls write something below this so i'm not a thread killer.
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    That was planned by Trump.

    Now Iran will help Syria and Trump is free to take Tehran.
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