israel is a better andersonOriginally Posted by iloveus
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10-08-2019, 12:52 AM #181Registered User
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10-08-2019, 01:44 AM #182Registered User
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Prime Anderson looked good because the division was very average at the time, the best striker Anderson beat was probably Vitor lolOriginally Posted by iloveus
Izzy was schooling fighting world class kickboxers and schooling them. Crossing over into heavyweight boxing as a middleweight and schooling them.
Izzy destroys "prime" Anderson, the striking is not comparable.
Jones beats Izzy with size, strength and wrestling.
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10-08-2019, 03:34 AM #183Irrelevant to YOUR succes
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Not a big sports guy I take itOriginally Posted by iloveus
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Bring back ****got, ****got .
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10-08-2019, 04:41 AM #184we just gonna act like the Gastelum fight never happened?Originally Posted by Gizzyhardcore
Adesanya is legit but this was CLEARLY not the Whittaker that obliterated Jacare and beat prime Romero. He had only fought twice in nearly 2 and a half years due to serious injuries. The body is only capable of so much.
Prime Andy would beat Adesanya.
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10-08-2019, 05:02 AM #185brb bulk-utting!
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The fuk?? Lol.... he didn’t even “destroy” 40yr old Anderson...Originally Posted by Gizzyhardcore
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10-08-2019, 05:42 AM #186Registered User
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yeah the division was average but the guy had the most impressive win streak in the UFC beating top contender after top contender and beat a lot of legit guys on the way. also having bouts at LHW and being successful there. something that will never be mimickedOriginally Posted by Gizzyhardcore
izzy didn't even destroy a geriatric Anderson Silva who's probably should have already been retired by now lmao
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10-08-2019, 07:50 AM #187Registered User
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Anderson relied so much on making guys miss + counter striking. He fought some snoozers when his opponent wouldn't come after him.
He is def the best MMA has ever seen when it comes to this but I think prime Andy would struggle a lot more with today's top contenders.
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10-08-2019, 08:00 AM #188High Plains Lifter
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Excellent point. Prime and in shape Anderson has edge over Israel. But, I think Israel has a long career ahead if he stays healthy.Originally Posted by nvrstopworking
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10-08-2019, 10:29 AM #189I think Israel will keep his undefeated recordOriginally Posted by Mark1T
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10-08-2019, 12:18 PM #190This, but we do have to admit he looked like an even better version than last time. He seems to be peaking while all his opponents are on a decline.Originally Posted by Gainzzz
It will take one more win for me to jump on the hype train but it does look promising.
Its almost like as if he was sandbagging and then when it was time for the championship he just turned the volume up and let loose his true self.
Was even better and stronger.
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10-08-2019, 12:29 PM #191No way.Originally Posted by skinnyfat88
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10-08-2019, 12:32 PM #192uberschwert
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10-08-2019, 01:31 PM #193As much as I like Whittaker, this. Adesanya vs Costa is gonna be hype city.Originally Posted by sword_
Also imagine the memes if he had lost after that walkout lul
He really put it all on the line
Gotta respect it
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10-08-2019, 03:29 PM #194S W O L E
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Izzy eats way more shots than Anderson used to. Whitaker could have won this fight.Originally Posted by iloveus
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10-08-2019, 07:15 PM #195How so?Originally Posted by LiftBigEatBig
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10-10-2019, 04:08 AM #196brb bulk-utting!
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I can’t buy into the hype until I see him deal with a guy who isn’t just content to stand and trade with him all fight long.Originally Posted by KingSWRV
Izzy’s a talent without a doubt but I’m
cringing at guys like Rogan saying “he’s already one of the greatest ever”.
He’ll bring new eyes to the UFC for sure but he hasn’t been tested yet. Not truly.
Jones’ run was far more impressive imo.
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10-10-2019, 10:35 PM #197Registered User
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I dunno, your opinion vs Rob Whitakker saying himself over and over again pre fight and post fight, this is the best hes ever felt.Originally Posted by Gainzzz
Theres that.
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10-10-2019, 11:13 PM #198Yeah exactly. Everyone he fought lately just all happen to be standing counterstrikers and never tried to do any ground stuff or serious takedown methods.Originally Posted by nvrstopworking
Gonna need to see a couple of tests, people are hyping a tiny bit too fast, cant compare to Jones and Khabib who are still there and still undefeated too.
Well I think Rob also lost to Wonderboy which is also a karate kickboxing method so theres that too. I guess that karate ish style is what counters his sloppy counter brawler style.Originally Posted by Gizzyhardcore
Brendan Shob was saying that he doesnt trust innactive people so you have examples like Habib and Dominic cruz, but then you have example where they do fall off from ring rust or injuries. Its not a hard rule I guess. But more often then not reality strikes. I dont care what he said, in fact its suspicious he needed to reiterate that because soemtimes you have to make youreself believe it because you dont feel it.
I can tell you one thing, the speed wasnt there, and thats the first to go if you relied on it.
Khabib relies on slow twich muscle fibers who (similar to myself) get stronger as they get older which is one of the rare upsides of aging. Cruz kinda had the pure skill and technique and element of surprise when he came back but quickly lost to cody who figured him out and was simply younger and quicker.
So I cant deny Bobby wasnt slower and looked weaker but also Adesanya was that skilled as well.
People want to say "OMG lets give credit to Gastellum" but in fact, i think he leveled up even more, he wasnt as effective in that fight. And even less in the exhibition with Silva.
This dude legit does Weeb Anime moves and references, theres a lot of power in that, it hints at an inner imagination and confidence of performance.
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10-11-2019, 11:57 AM #199Registered User
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Yet he was physically in amazing shape both in terms of appearance and his own viewpoint. What happened was that Whittaker had an amazing matchup against Jacare and Romero, neither guy could take him down at all really and Rob had a huge striking advantage in terms of speed and footwork skills. That said, Rob clearly lost the second fight with Romero if you know the new rules.Originally Posted by Gainzzz
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10-11-2019, 12:35 PM #200Joe Rogan says that for everyone.Originally Posted by nvrstopworking
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A lot of cope in this thread. Whitaker didn't have the reach to land anything clean against Adesanya and that's not going to change. Kelvin Gastelum gave Adesanya a better fight because he mixed it up with the takedowns and gave him something else to think about instead of going toe to toe in a kickboxing match against a guy with a very impressive kick boxing record and a significant height and reach advantage.
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Gastelum would ko Whittaker stiff. Whittaker also got wrecked by RomeroOriginally Posted by Gainzzz
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Gastelum had success getting on the inside because his head movement. Gastelum also has better hand speed, better technique and chin then WhittakerOriginally Posted by amenhotepv
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10-23-2019, 05:50 AM #204don't be scared homie
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not sure if you followed pride fc back in the heyday of mma. it was truly a spectacle and genki sudo has, to this day, the best entrances ever in mma.Originally Posted by sword_
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