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    Please don’t use heavy Lat Pulldown bars on Triceps Pushdown Machines!

    Just a safety tip, I’ve noticed a lot of people using those heavy steel lat pulldown bars on the smaller cable machines meant for triceps pushdowns, curls, laterals, face pulls, and other smaller movements. These bars are only to be used on the lat pulldown machines, the cables on the smaller machines aren’t strong enough to hold the bar up!

    Tonight, I saw this guy doing straight arm lat pulldowns using a heavy lat pulldown bar on a triceps machine. He bent down to pull the pin out and change the weight and as soon as he pulled the pin out, the bar fell at freefall speed and missed his head by maybe a centimeter. That would have done some damage if the bar got him, luckily it missed him.

    I thought I would share this just for you guys to be aware, never use these bars on smaller cable machines. They are ONLY meant to be used on Lat Pulldown Machines as the cable is strong enough to hold the bar up when you go to change weights.
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    Originally Posted by redmchalo View Post
    Just a safety tip, I’ve noticed a lot of people using those heavy steel lat pulldown bars on the smaller cable machines meant for triceps pushdowns, curls, laterals, face pulls, and other smaller movements. These bars are only to be used on the lat pulldown machines, the cables on the smaller machines aren’t strong enough to hold the bar up!

    Tonight, I saw this guy doing straight arm lat pulldowns using a heavy lat pulldown bar on a triceps machine. He bent down to pull the pin out and change the weight and as soon as he pulled the pin out, the bar fell at freefall speed and missed his head by maybe a centimeter. That would have done some damage if the bar got him, luckily it missed him.

    I thought I would share this just for you guys to be aware, never use these bars on smaller cable machines. They are ONLY meant to be used on Lat Pulldown Machines as the cable is strong enough to hold the bar up when you go to change weights.
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    Originally Posted by redmchalo View Post
    Just a safety tip, I’ve noticed a lot of people using those heavy steel lat pulldown bars on the smaller cable machines meant for triceps pushdowns, curls, laterals, face pulls, and other smaller movements. These bars are only to be used on the lat pulldown machines, the cables on the smaller machines aren’t strong enough to hold the bar up!

    Tonight, I saw this guy doing straight arm lat pulldowns using a heavy lat pulldown bar on a triceps machine. He bent down to pull the pin out and change the weight and as soon as he pulled the pin out, the bar fell at freefall speed and missed his head by maybe a centimeter. That would have done some damage if the bar got him, luckily it missed him.

    I thought I would share this just for you guys to be aware, never use these bars on smaller cable machines. They are ONLY meant to be used on Lat Pulldown Machines as the cable is strong enough to hold the bar up when you go to change weights.
    Uh, no. The cables are, generally, the same cables. The cable used on a Life Fitness functional trainer, for example, is the same stock as the one used on their lat pulldown. Whether or not the attachment comes crashing down has nothing to do with the type of cable, but rather the amount of force being exerted on the cable. In any case, regardless of the machine, heavier attachments should be supported or removed before moving the pin. Some learn this lesson the hard way.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    lol, what?
    Exactly, it has to be a joke, doesn't it?.
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    Originally Posted by gym62richard View Post
    Exactly, it has to be a joke, doesn't it?.
    Safety isnt a joke.
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    Originally Posted by dagdafitness View Post
    Safety isnt a joke.
    Safety is paramount, but stupidity is often funny, even a 2to1 ratio pulley unit, with a heavy cable attachment should not be dangerous, if you pull the pin out of the stack, then you would still have at least 5lb resistance from the top plate assembly, with cable inertia and friction that cable attachment is not going to drop out of the sky, a handle will just descend relatively slowly, I know, I've done it and I'm still alive to tell the tale.

    Generally gym cables are high spec and the same diameter is used on heavy and light stack units.

    A better tip would have been, "set the pin into the stack before attaching the handle and always remove the handle when relocating the pin",
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    Originally Posted by dagdafitness View Post
    Safety isnt a joke.
    True safety is not a joke, but what most people try and pass as a safety issue is comical.

    This horribly dangerous lat bar is nothing more than a learning experience for those who didn't pay attention in school.
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    Originally Posted by gym62richard View Post
    Safety is paramount, but stupidity is often funny, even a 2to1 ratio pulley unit, with a heavy cable attachment should not be dangerous, if you pull the pin out of the stack, then you would still have at least 5lb resistance from the top plate assembly, with cable inertia and friction that cable attachment is not going to drop out of the sky, a handle will just descend relatively slowly, I know, I've done it and I'm still alive to tell the tale.

    Generally gym cables are high spec and the same diameter is used on heavy and light stack units.

    A better tip would have been, "set the pin into the stack before attaching the handle and always remove the handle when relocating the pin",
    Sorry gym62richard .. should have added a "lol" at the end. It was intended to be 100% sarcastic.

    I agree with chadsalt. If you pull the weight stack pin out with a heavy attachment above you and get hit, you wont do it again. And if you do, youre probably OP. And if youre OP, you'll complain on the forum.
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    Originally Posted by dagdafitness View Post
    Safety isnt a joke.
    I lol'd as I read this. I have a buddy with 2 college degrees in safety related fields that I met through work years ago. He used to be our Safety Coordinator and worked in a similar position at Exxon before that. He's a great guy, but sweet jesus what a PITA. He sees danger in everything. He has learned by now to keep his yap shut most of the time, but you can see the look of disapproval on his face if you dare to even walk from the kitchen table to the counter with a fork facing the wrong way.
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    I walked into a gym just in time to watch a cable break and the lat pulldown bar come right down on a guy doing heavy latpulls, cracked his head open something awful. Amazingly it didn't knock him out but there was blood everywhere. Bad way to start a workout...
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    Originally Posted by lsi1 View Post
    if people get injured or seriously hurt by falling lat bars then I would consider it cleaning the gene pool.
    LOL. Only the strong should survive.
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    Originally Posted by xsquid99 View Post
    I walked into a gym just in time to watch a cable break and the lat pulldown bar come right down on a guy doing heavy latpulls, cracked his head open something awful. Amazingly it didn't knock him out but there was blood everywhere. Bad way to start a workout...
    Same thing at Retro's in Jessup, but the guy was facing the bar. Busted out some front teeth. Retro's paid up though, even though they had some BS clause in the member contract saying they weren't responsible for injuries.
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