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    Originally Posted by BetaAsPhuck View Post
    Ah, my mistake...

    Going to S.E. Asia might work well for you anyway, as long as you walk around a bit in a tight top, or with your shirt off.
    Technically I'm S.E. Asian myself.

    its funny whenever I go to my home country (sri lanka) due to my physique, height, way I dress etc. I stick out.
    people ASSUME I get laid a ton.

    Random guys, usually those tuktuk drivers, store clerks, random guys on public transport, strike up a conversation with me and the conversation always goes towards girls.
    I reckon they assume due to my physique I must have slept with several girls.


    Anyways I've visited Thailand several times. interesting thing happened in 2015 but that's a long story.


    Originally Posted by ItsNotAPhaseMom View Post
    you are 34 bro time is running out. You need to put yourself out there now. Like right now.
    i know im pretty old lmao
    thing is my life is comfortable.

    I keep imagining though that it would be like in my 50s or 60s. I ahve my parents right now to at least talk to but eventually they will pass away. they are almost in their 70s. once that happens i'll be completely alone in this world.

    Although people always tell me i look like im in my 20s. I still have a full head of hair and its jet black (no grey hair yet).
    ilfting for over a decade and getting lean also improved my facial aesthetics.



    another thing is all the girls i get into contact with are also in their early to mid 20s. And they think im the same age as them. This makes it awkward af.
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    Originally Posted by Boyguy View Post
    I'm sure the incels will see this and realize they should just stop being incels

    I think u just wanna abuse incels when they inevitably enter this thread and start whining about life brah
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    Originally Posted by jeshelton View Post
    No audio, cliffs?

    My guess-
    -I was depressed/kept getting in my own way
    -I cleaned myself up, took a shower, put clean clothing on
    -I took some walks/runs/possibly started exercising
    -I took some personal responsibility for engaging others in a way meaningful to me, even if it was meaningless to them
    -Low and behold, the world wasn't an isolated piece of chit when I made an effort to change myself

    Did I win a penny?
    On spread. Not watching cuz I don't have to watch, it's the same chit every time.

    So anyway, 2 things I want to talk about here. One is a basic misunderstanding miscers have about self-improvement for getting girls.

    Most things in life are grindable. Weightlifting, for example, is very grindable. You start off as a skinnyfat phaggot, you curl 20 lbs, one day that becomes easy for you, then you move up to curling 25, that gets easy for you, etc, and you can just keep going along that path until your arms are thick and joocy. Schoolwork's another thing that's super grindable. You have a rough idea what's going to be on the midterm, you have all the learning materials front of you, and the more you study the material the higher your grade will be.

    The idea is the same. There's a basic and repeatable process that will get results every time if you just stick to it. The only difficult part is gaining the motivation to keep grinding and pushing yourself up the ladder. So misc "normies" if they can just motivate incels to start working harder at something, it'll get them results. They tend to go with the CT Fletcher style approach, because it fits the misc's general attitude and makes them feel like "tough guys".

    Basic outline: "Are you under 15% BF, have a job making over $60K a year, or own your own place? Then you don't deserve a girlfriend! Fist yourself, phaggot."

    What they fundamentally don't understand is that getting girls is not a grindable process. A single, repeatable way to get laid every time doesn't exist.

    The game is different. It's not grinding, it's SELLING.

    Look at the ground rules and compare it to dating.

    -You are stuck selling whatever product you have, and that product is essentially fixed and unchangeable.
    -People will know very quickly if they're interested in your product or not.
    -The majority of people will have no interest in your product. Just the way it is. An insurance salesman can pitch me all he wants, but if I don't want to buy insurance, I don't care.
    -You can't change people's minds by working harder. That's just called being needy/pushy/creepy.

    So in that same vein, what can you do to maximize your odds?

    -Identify people who want to buy what you're selling. If you're a scrawny arty metrosexual type, you're not going to get anywhere with club rats. If you're a tattooed up curlbro, you're not going o

    -MEET AS MANY PEOPLE IN YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE AS POSSIBLE. I can't stress this enough, this is the part that the "grinders" ALWAYS leave out. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH $$$ YOU MAKE OR HOW MANY DUDES YOU TALK TO. If you aren't meeting women, you will NEVER GET ANYWHERE.

    -Positive attitude and vibes are everything. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

    -Most importantly, you have to give people what they want. Find something a girl respects or finds attractive, then show her your dominance at it. Funny guy, Silencespeaks type football player, fitness meathead, phaggy metrosexual artist - different girls want different things. Show them you have that.
    -Have a thick skin; people aren't rejecting you, they're rejecting your product. Dating can make tough because your product is also yourself, but you have to remember that these girls don't actually know chit about you.

    Out of all this, the standard "grind" advice covers maybe a bit on presentation. Grinding is simply the wrong way of looking at things, and on a site full of dozens of jacked incels and other guys who struggle with women, you'd think someone would put 2 and 2 together by now. You guys need to fundamentally look at things in a different way.


    Originally Posted by damlurker550 View Post
    I'm not poor myself. I could lose my virginity over the weekend if I paid for it (im australian so it's 100% legal), but i think most incels just want some intimacy and validation.

    Coem to think of it validation is probably what incels yearn for the most. I feel like 50% of my own species has outright rejected me and think I'm sub-human. it's a heavy burden to carry on a daily basis.
    And this is part 2 of what I wanted to hit. Getting a nut off does not matter for incels. Incels get nuts off every day to their phone screens. Getting a nut off inside a $200/hr human fleshlight makes absolutely no difference. The core of what incels want from women is validation.

    Inb4 "that's phaggy", inb4 "be alpha". Imagine if you looked around and every other guy you saw was getting with girls, but none of them wanted to be with you. The first question you're naturally going to ask is "what's the difference between me and those guys? What's wrong with me?", and right there is the underlying kernel of FA self-loathing. Leave that in place for years and years, and pretty soon a complex starts to fester. Some guys will get sucked into the redpill brainwashing as an easy way to explain it ("no girl wants to **** me because of my short philtrum!), some guys will start self-sabotaging because they become that convinced they're unfukkable that they can't break that worldview.

    But I guarantee you, if a bunch of girls started showing that same guy some love - and not like one girl, like LOTS of girls, those complexes would go away PDQ. We've seen it in the past with incels, when they get laid they are on cloud fukking 9, and when that validation goes away then they start to drift back into old habits and ruts. That attention/validation is the key.

    So then you have guys in every incel thread going "if you can't get laid then buy a hooker." An easy non-solution that only shows that the poster writing it isn't thinking. Having to pay for sex with questionably-willing women only reinforces that FA notion of "I'm broken, women won't accept me for who I am." It's simply not addressing the root issue, it's actually making that root issue worse.



    Anyway, I expect a couple "tl;dr" comments for this, and Bobby D will probably come back with a comment saying "keep crying FA bishboi. Negged, sweetie". That's cool. I'm not here to argue with anyone, and this will be the last post I make on this comment chain. What I'm trying to do here is plant a seed that maybe some posters will think about the next time they write the standard FA "advice" threads.
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    Originally Posted by damlurker550 View Post


    i know im pretty old lmao
    thing is my life is comfortable.

    I keep imagining though that it would be like in my 50s or 60s. I ahve my parents right now to at least talk to but eventually they will pass away. they are almost in their 70s. once that happens i'll be completely alone in this world.

    Although people always tell me i look like im in my 20s. I still have a full head of hair and its jet black (no grey hair yet).
    ilfting for over a decade and getting lean also improved my facial aesthetics.



    another thing is all the girls i get into contact with are also in their early to mid 20s. And they think im the same age as them. This makes it awkward af.
    ask your parents to arrange a marriage for you with some village sloot

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    Originally Posted by SuperChieftain View Post
    ITT: 3 or 4 people hate phones/ear buds.
    Even though they admitted they have those on themselves.

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    Originally Posted by puffdaddy68 View Post
    people still date, they just meet in different ways. if you get rejected online, you would likely have gotten rejected cold approaching at a blockbuster too.


    also, to you people complaining about girls being on their phones in front of you/not wanting to talk to you... is it not phukking obvious that you're boring her with whatever you're saying? if a girl is into you/what you're saying, she doesn't have her phone out. phone ain't the problem, you are.
    No i'm saying there is no chance to talk to anyone these days if you are FA

    LOL at thinking you can just go approach a random girl these days. People are addicted to their phones and are not receptive to strangers talking to them. There is no chance you are doing anything.

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    Originally Posted by BetaAsPhuck View Post
    Oh... That's some deep imprinting then (no pun intended).

    Welp... I'm sure you can find a dude who is into rough stuff (it's quite popular in porn).

    Good luck.
    Yep, one day you're a virgin, the next day you end up learning at least 10 sexual positions. I think he got overexcited because we were beginning to think I would need surgery to break my hymen.

    Yeah hope one day to meet a really nice guy who is into super rough sex. Though if he isn't into it, it's ok.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Even though they admitted they have those on themselves.
    Lol

    There were two girl (I guess some models or some sh!t) on Bennington today and they were sh!itting on incels because they said “ask an incel what kind of girl they like...their standards are ridiculous and they don’t realize it’s not the money or looks...it’s them”
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    Originally Posted by LordLuck View Post
    I think this is emphatic of someone who wants to beleive things haven't been made demonstrably worse... rather than actually believing it.


    Q: do you really think young girls, compared to previous times, receiving virtually non stop validation at the swipe of a paw hasn't affected their psyche?

    Q: do think forums like this are what caused the incel epidemic (it's reaching those levels) or are incel filled forums the result of there being more incels in society?


    I think it's the latter.

    I'm no longer pretending everything is ok as coping mechanism.

    I think it's a bit of both. People still get poos and girlfriends though. The ones who don't are autistic, or too scared to make a move.
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    Even though they admitted they have those on themselves.
    Seems to be their main argument.
    Not an incel.
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    No i'm saying there is no chance to talk to anyone these days if you are FA

    LOL at thinking you can just go approach a random girl these days. People are addicted to their phones and are not receptive to strangers talking to them. There is no chance you are doing anything.
    I talk to people all the time, I have no idea what the heck you are on about.

    Originally Posted by SuperChieftain View Post
    Seems to be their main argument.
    Maybe they can't afford nice ones? They seem to be hung up on them so much.

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    ask your parents to arrange a marriage for you with some village sloot
    lol why does it have to be someone from a village??
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    Originally Posted by Boyguy View Post
    Thinking of buying a fake Rolex(not wasting my money on a real one)lifting hard for like a year to become more aesthetic (to supplement my already attractive face) and going to china with my chinese friend who can help me navigate, and absolutely smashing as much prime chinese puss as I can
    Good luck with you endeavours, you're going to need it.

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    Originally Posted by damlurker550 View Post
    lol why does it have to be someone from a village??
    idk bruh isnt that what they do there? I know someone who got married to some village dude there. It was weird because she never seemed like the type to get an arranged marriage.

    I know some people from there too. They taught some swear words like dai pundai. What does that mean?

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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    I talk to people all the time, I have no idea what the heck you are on about.



    Maybe they can't afford nice ones? They seem to be hung up on them so much.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Age 39

    You aren't living in the same world as people in their 20's and early 30's
    That's funny, is it a separate matrix or something?

    Because last time I checked, we haven't even started on exploring alternate universes...

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    Originally Posted by otakutrevan View Post
    miscers that grew up in the 80s and 90s, even former "lady killers" have said it used to be easier. Granted I a millennial, but it seems, in every town ive lived in, race aside, culture aside, women are usually smanaging a small group of men. Highschool, military, and civillian jobs. its always guys with harems, and then everyone else on the struggle bus.
    Where you been at? I was wondering what happened to you. Haven't seen you post in a while

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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Age 39

    You aren't living in the same world as people in their 20's and early 30's
    i'm 26. no chit girls don't want random awkward FA's coming up and cold approaching them. what do you even have to talk about if the most interesting thing you've done all week is cold approached the girl you're currently talking to?

    game is the game. cold approach doesn't work anymore, find a new strategy. or LDAR.

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    Don't know about other Asian countries but good luck getting a non-ugly Japanese girlfriend if you're not fluent in Japanese, very good looking or rich. I know lots of white incels in Tokyo lol. Once a loser always a loser.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Age 39

    You aren't living in the same world as people in their 20's and early 30's
    Yes we are, especially when we don't look 39.
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    Source: Over 10 years in Asia currently live in Manila. Here are some facts:

    You will still need money for dating in Asia even if you are 20 something Chad and...

    There are three types of women in Asia:

    1. Hookers - whether bar-based or freelancers, relationships, regardless of duration are a transaction for them
    2. Party Girls - have some money and like to hit the clubs and are DTF but they will expect you to pay as soon as possible: drinks, dinner, hotels (if they don't have an apt.)
    3. Regular Girls - not hustling and are generally interested in LTR / marriage / Green Card; be prepared to expend maximum effort and time with these. Also, parents can be a problem.

    High class Asian women with a lot of money tend to marry within their socioeconomic circle due to social and family pressure; everyone else needs money or they wouldn't engage with foreigners like my three types above...

    INB4 some smart guy post his unicorn love story and how the girl paid her own way or better yet, paid his way...
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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    Everybody always talks about white dudes in Asia. Do we have stats on other races that travel their? Like, do Asian sloots have secret jungle fever or ever get a hankerin for that latin persuasion?

    i'm half filipino/white but look latino and never had problems picking up asian chicks. the biggest problem is the language and cultural barriers but it never stopped them from wanting me.

    the black guys i was stationed with didnt have problems smashing japanese chicks; in fact, they had it easier imo. the women that went after them were out there hunting for bbc

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    Originally Posted by coolbones View Post
    Don't know about other Asian countries but good luck getting a non-ugly Japanese girlfriend if you're not fluent in Japanese, very good looking or rich. I know lots of white incels in Tokyo lol. Once a loser always a loser.
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    No i'm saying there is no chance to talk to anyone these days if you are FA

    LOL at thinking you can just go approach a random girl these days. People are addicted to their phones and are not receptive to strangers talking to them. There is no chance you are doing anything.
    Seriously bro, wtf? Talk to women at work, go out to eat and talk to waitresses, go out to a club (works great if you know how to dance). If you are Christian (I am not, but have been to plenty), you can join small groups or single groups where you can interact with other singles. Life will defeat you if you have a defeatist attitude.

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    Originally Posted by ExPatriot View Post
    Source: Over 10 years in Asia currently live in Manila. Here are some facts:

    You will still need money for dating in Asia even if you are 20 something Chad and...

    There are three types of women in Asia:

    1. Hookers - whether bar-based or freelancers, relationships, regardless of duration are a transaction for them
    2. Party Girls - have some money and like to hit the clubs and are DTF but they will expect you to pay as soon as possible: drinks, dinner, hotels (if they don't have an apt.)
    3. Regular Girls - not hustling and are generally interested in LTR / marriage / Green Card; be prepared to expend maximum effort and time with these. Also, parents can be a problem.

    High class Asian women with a lot of money tend to marry within their socioeconomic circle due to social and family pressure; everyone else needs money or they wouldn't engage with foreigners like my three types above...

    INB4 some smart guy post his unicorn love story and how the girl paid her own way or better yet, paid his way...
    Thank you, finally someone with real experience and sense ITT. Especially the bolded part. And that's anyone mid middle class and up.

    Originally Posted by Bassackwards View Post
    i'm half filipino/white but look latino and never had problems picking up asian chicks. the biggest problem is the language and cultural barriers but it never stopped them from wanting me.

    the black guys i was stationed with didnt have problems smashing japanese chicks; in fact, they had it easier imo. the women that went after them were out there hunting for bbc

    bottom line, good looking bros will get chicks no matter where they go.
    There is a saying about women you can meet in Japan, there are two kinds... the first will not look at anyone not Japanese, and the second will look at only non-Japanese.

    If you like sloppy seconds after the non-Japanese guy before you, go for it.

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    Originally Posted by bobbydigitaloa View Post
    Yes we are, especially when we don't look 39.
    Comon bobby, I hate to agree with him but there is no way you believe that there isn't a generational gap when it comes to getting woman these days. Obviously not to the extent that eod and them are saying but it 100% is much harder for men these days due to the increased looks standards woman have. That much is undeniable. It still isn't impossible like eod and peachy says but we do have to work much harder than guys from your era (assuming born in 70s?).

    But again, eod is just exaggerating the truth. Things aren't impossible, they are just harder but very much achievable for most guys.

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