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    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    no.
    Everything else starts to matter if the looks are there.
    Your exact quote I was responding to. You have nothing to back up your claims except your own anecdotes, and I've told you that I've personally witnessed girls choosing objectively less attractive guys for relationships. You should really work on your issues, which have nothing to do with looks.

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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    Your exact quote I was responding to. You have nothing to back up your claims except your own anecdotes, and I've told you that I've personally witnessed girls choosing objectively less attractive guys for relationships. You should really work on your issues, which have nothing to do with looks.
    It probably has more to do with him being homeless, tbh.

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    Originally Posted by fishnbrah View Post
    im 5'5, old, not ripped anymore, and poor. i bet i could get 3 numbers in an hour at the bar tonight.
    lets see what you look like right now then playboy
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    Originally Posted by peachy977 View Post
    Went out today everyone in groups wearing earphones lol
    Literally everyone does. Saw some dude in his car today at Mcdonalds wearing them inside the car.

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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    Your exact quote I was responding to. You have nothing to back up your claims except your own anecdotes, and I've told you that I've personally witnessed girls choosing objectively less attractive guys for relationships. You should really work on your issues, which have nothing to do with looks.
    Nah he means looks are a pre-requisite, and if you PASS, then all the other chit comes into play.

    They have done studies on this I believe and I think the findings largely suggested that women know within seconds whether they’d fuk you or not.

    I personally don’t think it’s an iron clad thing, but I do think there’s a lot of truth to it.

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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    Your exact quote I was responding to. You have nothing to back up your claims except your own anecdotes, and I've told you that I've personally witnessed girls choosing objectively less attractive guys for relationships. You should really work on your issues, which have nothing to do with looks.
    Bro, my quote literally says that nothing matters if looks are not there. This means you won't be given the opportunity to show your other qualities if you don't have the looks. Moreover, I reemphasized the importance of looks ( look at the word choice).
    Nobody cares about your personality if you are not attractive because you are not even considered. Looks are far more important than personality.
    It's not a matter of opinion. It's backed up by data.
    It's not my opinion.
    I can send you sources if you want to.
    Why is it so hard for men to accept the importance of looks. I think it has to do with the fact that there's nothing we can do to significantly change it.
    Just embrace reality without trying to cope.
    The number of girls you witnessed is a drop in the ocean like I already told you.
    I am not talking about choosing a beta provider here.
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    i just want a bitch to caress tbh.
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    Originally Posted by ItsNotAPhaseMom View Post
    i just want a bitch to caress tbh.
    You can always buy a female dog.

    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    Bro, my quote literally says that nothing matters if looks are not there. This means you won't be given the opportunity to show your other qualities if you don't have the looks. Moreover, I reemphasized the importance of looks ( look at the word choice).
    Nobody cares about your personality if you are not attractive because you are not even considered. Looks are far more important than personality.
    It's not a matter of opinion. It's backed up by data.
    It's not my opinion.
    I can send you sources if you want to.
    Why is it so hard for men to accept the importance of looks. I think it has to do with the fact that there's nothing we can do to significantly change it.
    Just embrace reality without trying to cope.
    The number of girls you witnessed is a drop in the ocean like I already told you.
    I am not talking about choosing a beta provider here.
    Cope levels are off the charts with this one.

    "Can't significantly change our looks"?

    This has got to be a troll job. Especially since we went from height, to looks.

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    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    Bro, my quote literally says that nothing matters if looks are not there. This means you won't be given the opportunity to show your other qualities if you don't have the looks. Moreover, I reemphasized the importance of looks ( look at the word choice).
    Nobody cares about your personality if you are not attractive because you are not even considered. Looks are far more important than personality.
    It's not a matter of opinion. It's backed up by data.
    It's not my opinion.
    I can send you sources if you want to.
    Why is it so hard for men to accept the importance of looks. I think it has to do with the fact that there's nothing we can do to significantly change it.
    Just embrace reality without trying to cope.
    The number of girls you witnessed is a drop in the ocean like I already told you.
    I am not talking about choosing a beta provider here.
    No one is coping, and given the context of our exchange that's not what you were initially implying. If the point is simply looks matter and without sexual attraction other attributes won't matter then again, water is wet.

    You, and others, however seem to be arguing that it's absolutely game over for those who are even slightly below average, and that the objectively better looking guy will always triumph. Neither are true.

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    Originally Posted by ItsNotAPhaseMom View Post
    i just want a bitch to caress tbh.
    Just pay for one mate.
    You can actually choose unless you're part of the
    " So ugly that even escorts reject me " crew.
    This chit is so funny man
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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    No one is coping, and given the context of our exchange that's not what you were initially implying. If the point is simply looks matter and without sexual attraction other attributes won't matter then again, water is wet.

    You, and others, however seem to be arguing that it's absolutely game over for those who are even slightly below average, and that the objectively better looking guy will always triumph. Neither are true.
    I never said it was over for slightly below average guy. I am slightly below average guy, and it is clearly not over for me.
    What I'm saying is that it never began for people like BBM.
    I'm saying that the better guy will win almost every time , not always just because there are exceptions. We just have to remember that exceptions remain exceptions.
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    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    Just pay for one mate.
    You can actually choose unless you're part of the
    " So ugly that even escorts reject me " crew.
    This chit is so funny man
    Its not the same man. I want a girl to want me to touch her. That feeling of being wanted is better than the physical pleasure.
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    Originally Posted by Rebel012 View Post
    No one is coping, and given the context of our exchange that's not what you were initially implying. If the point is simply looks matter and without sexual attraction other attributes won't matter then again, water is wet.

    You, and others, however seem to be arguing that it's absolutely game over for those who are even slightly below average, and that the objectively better looking guy will always triumph. Neither are true.
    He is right in one scenario, and one scenario only:

    Online dating ( hookup apps ), that present nothing except superficial images. But that's also the part of his delusion that is most likely due to his lack of experience.

    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    I never said it was over for slightly below average guy. I am slightly below average guy, and it is clearly not over for me.
    What I'm saying is that it never began for people like BBM.
    I'm saying that the better guy will win almost every time , not always just because there are exceptions. We just have to remember that exceptions remain exceptions.
    All this insight, and you still fail to realize that you ( and people like you) are the source of what you proclaim to be BBMG's problem (not his actual problem, which has nothing to do with the opposite sex ).

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    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    I never said it was over for slightly below average guy. I am slightly below average guy, and it is clearly not over for me.
    What I'm saying is that it never began for people like BBM.
    I'm saying that the better guy will win almost every time , not always just because there are exceptions. We just have to remember that exceptions remain exceptions.
    Not gonna lie I legit feel bad for BBM. His personality doesn’t help obviously, but even then we run into the chicken and egg problem.

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    Originally Posted by alltrapbrah View Post
    Not gonna lie I legit feel bad for BBM. His personality doesn’t help obviously, but even then we run into the chicken and egg problem.
    The guy flaked on the date he set up, after calling people "idiots" for suggesting him to do so.

    I have no sympathy, he is doing it to himself.

    Then we have Cucker here, who laments that women are like animals and choose the best looking guy that is available, but is known for whining about how he had to go "2 points below his own looks at last call". He conveniently forgets that this why, according to his own theory, BBMG has no chance.

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    Originally Posted by alltrapbrah View Post
    Not gonna lie I legit feel bad for BBM. His personality doesn’t help obviously, but even then we run into the chicken and egg problem.
    He claims he's a fun, cool guy irl but he's this annoying little whiny bitch who constantly bitches like a woman on here. Even though he might not do that irl, it's still a part of what he does and no amount of deflecting is gonna change that and if the majority of people think you're whining too much, there's some truth to that.
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    Bitter short brah detected.

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    Even people in bars and pubs wear earphones in groups idk why I waste my time trying to meet women nothing ever happens no matter what you try

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    Originally Posted by peachy977 View Post
    Even people in bars and pubs wear earphones in groups idk why I waste my time trying to meet women nothing ever happens no matter what you try
    Curious to know how these people are wearing earphones in groups. Are they sharing the earphones or are they in groups but are wearing individual earphones?
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    Originally Posted by ItsNotAPhaseMom View Post
    Curious to know how these people are wearing earphones in groups. Are they sharing the earphones or are they in groups but are wearing individual earphones?
    I wear my Airpods under my XM3's, double the effect.

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    Why is it that things got more heated in here after BBMG got banned lol.
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    Originally Posted by SuperChieftain View Post
    Why is it that things got more heated in here after BBMG got banned lol.
    If by heated, you mean hilarious, it's because his negativity is absent.

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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    If by heated, you mean hilarious, it's because his negativity is absent.
    Ahh. I didn’t actually read all the posts as there were a lot, I figured it was all still arguments.
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    Originally Posted by peachy977 View Post
    Even people in bars and pubs wear earphones in groups idk why I waste my time trying to meet women nothing ever happens no matter what you try
    Another thing too is that people look so depressed and angry when i go out. Especially at the gym. Every person in that bish looks sad. Same thing at work. Why can't you just go somewhere where people don't have ear buds in or don't look pissed?

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    Originally Posted by MortalShare6 View Post
    It's true. When you are out the vast majority of cute/in shape girls are around tall guys. I'm 6'2 myself. I rarely see girls talking to short guys. If i do see it i wonder how it works out.
    The social scenes are dominated by tall men.
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    Originally Posted by TappingTheZen View Post
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    Originally Posted by ItsNotAPhaseMom View Post
    1.Face
    2.Height
    3.Social Status
    4.Personality
    5.Money
    More like:

    1. Social Status
    2. Personality
    3. Face
    4. Money
    5. Height


    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    I like things like this. At least we have something to talk about.
    Okay let's begin by what makes a man attractive: good facial bone structure with minimal asymmetry ( 100% genetics), which include strong wide jaw ( genetics), deep small eyes (genetics), strong high cheekbones (genetics) thin european looking nose (surgery can fix this), above average height ( height is 90% genetic and 10% environmental factors that your parent pick for you ), hair thickness ( hair transplant can fix this if you have money), wide shoulders or manly frame ( 100% genetics ), race ( the more ethnic you look, the less attractive you are perceived), personalty ( is heavily influenced by genetics, and your looks heavily influence your personality due to differential treatment based on looks people receive during ages of brain development i.e childhood and adolescence )
    Your personality is heavily influenced by genetics when you're 15. Not so much when you're 30. I know plenty of people who have changed a LOT since their early teens by actively working on their behavior.

    And just lol if you think that all chicks are into the same things and that physical attractiveness is the be-all end-all. I know good looking dudes who are boring, shy and socially awkward and those dudes struggle to get laid. I know not so good looking dudes who are really fun to be around and those dudes get laid a lot. I know good looking dudes who have their chit together too and they absolutely slay, especially on Tinder.

    things you can improve on :
    Your bodyfat if you are fat
    your style
    your socioeconomic appearance because people are superficial
    getting a nose job
    getting a hair transplant if you are bald
    Surgery isn't even needed unless there are some huge issues that need to be addressed. Most people can get their looks to 7-8/10 by just getting their bodyfat percentage to a decent level, lifting, fixing their teeth and getting their sense of style in order.

    However these things will not cause a significant change in success rate for most incels because the most important things that determine attractiveness can't be changed: Face, height, and race.
    A sub 5/10 short ethnic man will struggle to land anything ( including whales ). The thing you are failing to realize is that most incel are close to that description.

    It is not enough to be more attractive than you were, you also have to be more attractive than all the orbiters the female has, and believe me, women have many orbiters.

    Confidence is a mere symptom of attractiveness, not the other way around.
    Lmao, you are living in some imaginary world dude. You don't need to be Jason fukking Momoa to meet girls. It certainly helps if you look good, but it's not required beyond the basic "take care of your self" chit that everybody should be doing anyway. Things like being ambitious, assertive, confident, fun, self sufficient, etc are WAYYYY more important than your looks.

    If looks were as important as you phaggots claim then I'd be a virgin to this day lmao. Thank god this is not the case.
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    Originally Posted by nnodcvcker View Post
    You are telling this to neuroscience major guy, so I know a little about the brain and decision making.
    No most of our primal behaviors are very instinctual. Things like food or sex are very primal. it's not like choosing the interest rate of a loan.
    It's not something we do consciously, rather subconsciously. I like women with fat asses, and it's very primal.
    That's the disconnect. It's not enough to meet her looks threshold, you have to be better than most of her orbiter.
    Girl X has 4 orbiters ( a 6/10 6.5/10 7/10 and 7.5/10 ) and is herself a 6.5/10
    We all know that most girls have multiple options. Which of these two scenarios requires the biggest leap of faith.
    Girl X meets guy Y, a 6.5/10 guy and decides to start fukking him
    Girl X meets guy Y, a 6.5/10 guy and sticks him in the friend zone while she fuxx the 7.5 guy.
    Lmfao, this is so retarded. THERE IS NO UNIVERSAL PHUCKING SCALE THAT ALL WOMEN AGREE ON. You can be a 3/10 for one girl and 9/10 to the next. It's the same thing for guys. I've had friends drool over chicks that I wouldn't even consider fukking, and vice versa. People are fukking different, how is this a hard concept to grasp?
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