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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Yet the 300MM figure is from Politico, which you guys call a liberal fake news outlet. So confused now...
    If Politico is liberal, then the $300 million is a low estimate. Thanks.
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    I wonder what happens to the money if he's removed from office.
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    This Bill Taylor testimony is damning, I gotta admit. Trump may have screwed up here. Will need to see the other testimonies ASAP.
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    jesus christ bill taylor.

    come on trump...you know where this is going, and there is no way america can look the other way.
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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    jesus christ bill taylor.

    come on trump...you know where this is going, and there is no way america can look the other way.
    Sh*ts more serious than I thought. Taylor said he met with the Ukrainian military and said Ukrainians were getting killed because of the held up aid.

    Basically extortion
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    Sh*ts more serious than I thought. Taylor said he met with the Ukrainian military and said Ukrainians were getting killed because of the held up aid.
    That was put in there for dramatics.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Obviously. Have you taken your meds today? Checked your blood sugar? Should we call an ambulance for you?
    Dunno, it's hard to keep up with the maze inside your head.

    Originally Posted by Procta View Post

    got anything to back up your hunch ?
    Empirical data and about $25K.

    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    If Politico is liberal, then the $300 million is a low estimate. Thanks.
    Depends... if it's a pro-Trump article, then it's a legit source; if it's a critical article about Trump then it's fake news. Kinda need for you guys to make up your minds. Kthx.
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    I love how the Bidens literally cashed in on multi millions via quid pro quo and the media is ignoring that **** completely and pushing the narrative that Trump is guilty of well...anything because he's investigating Bidens shady ass actions. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. The left wing is so ****ing corrupt and the fact they have the media covering for them is ****ing disgusting. **** all these people.
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    in on page 81 of impeachment nothingburger

    lmao

    Still waiting for that impeachment you leftist retards. All talk no action leftist cockroaches.
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    Originally Posted by ItsJamesthefin View Post
    I seriously do hope a vote does happen. Trump then will be able to call witness and you will quickly see how fast their story falls apart. Good luck on your impeachment goals. I didnt think TDS was real but after witnessing it on here and even in the real world, wow you guys need to go do something productive.
    He admitted it. The crime is on a transcript he released. What can a witness possibly say.

    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Those jokers don't deserve it.

    And Trump can offer whatever defense he wants in his public comments.

    All he does is say everyone is discredited. However, that's not at all the case.

    At some point he's going to have to think of a real defense or he could get kicked out.

    The senators will have to say SOMETHING in his defense.

    He just doesn't have one...he's guilty.

    Everyone knows it, too.

    Everyone here knows it...including you.

    He's guilty AF of soliciting help illegally from a foreign power for his campaign.

    He extorted them withholding military aid...which is not even contested.

    He bribed with offering high profile WH visits...which is not even contested.

    This is going to get ugly for Republicans.

    They are outmaneuvered.
    What defense could there possibly be?
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    Originally Posted by JediRN View Post


    What defense could there possibly be?
    Easy, no crime.
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    Based on everything that's been made public so far, the Dems' games are simply a political partisan attack on their political opponent and not a legit impeachment based on constitutionally-legal high crimes and misdemeanors. They said before Trump ever came into office that they'd impeach and that's what they're still trying to do today.

    If they go forward with this and impeach him then it will be the first federal impeachment ever overturned by the Supreme Court as an unconstitutional one, and that's looking more likely to me now than it did a few weeks ago when I first said it. Most likely Kavanaugh and Thomas, who have both been victims of the leftist lunatic insanity themselves firsthand, are probably jumping for that possibility.

    I'm now hoping that's exactly what the Dems do because it would finally be the straw that broke their back and brought them back to sanity at least somewhat - not to mention help us gain bigtime in Congress along with keeping the White House.


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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Those jokers don't deserve it.

    And Trump can offer whatever defense he wants in his public comments.

    All he does is say everyone is discredited. However, that's not at all the case.

    At some point he's going to have to think of a real defense or he could get kicked out.

    The senators will have to say SOMETHING in his defense.

    He just doesn't have one...he's guilty.

    Everyone knows it, too.

    Everyone here knows it...including you.

    He's guilty AF of soliciting help illegally from a foreign power for his campaign.

    He extorted them withholding military aid...which is not even contested.

    He bribed with offering high profile WH visits...which is not even contested.

    This is going to get ugly for Republicans.

    They are outmaneuvered.
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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post

    If they go forward with this and impeach him then it will be the first federal impeachment ever overturned by the Supreme Court as an unconstitutional one, and that's looking more likely to me now than it did a few weeks ago
    The Supreme Court can do this? They can just hop in and overturn it?

    I would not underestimate the Dems either, I bet you'll they'll find a Ukrainian to lie for them...this is now Commie land in DC.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    The Supreme Court can do this? They can just hop in and overturn it?

    I would not underestimate the Dems either, I bet you'll they'll find a Ukrainian to lie for them...this is now Commie land in DC.
    yes

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    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...al-impeachment



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    Many consider that yet another leftist attempt to overthrow the results of an election.
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    Dunno, it's hard to keep up with the maze inside your head.
    Weird, because everybody else seems to be able to keep up without issue.
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    Weird, because everybody else seems to be able to keep up without issue.
    Well, yes, but you've seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, right?
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    The Supreme Court can do this? They can just hop in and overturn it?

    I would not underestimate the Dems either, I bet you'll they'll find a Ukrainian to lie for them...this is now Commie land in DC.
    Why not? First this whole impeachment fiasco hasn't even been formally started and that's because there is no hard, concrete evidence to support impeachment just hearsay.
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    So only democrats get to hear these interviews and democrats are the only one releasing statements to the media and we should trust them 100%.

    That is the liberal's version of due process.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Well, yes, but you've seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, right?
    Actually, I don't think I have, or if I have it was when I was young and have no recollection of it. I should probably check it out since it has a young Jack Nicholson in it though.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysFocus View Post
    id rather have NYPat here instead of you
    I'm sure that was a little painful to read. I don't think I said anything wrong, however.

    Bill Taylor's statement

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...ttees-n1070336

    There's no doubt...well little doubt, that Republicans will ultimately choose to defend Trump in his Senate trial.

    I'm just curious at this point what possible defense they can come up with.

    'It's not wrong' is just untrue, and there's no longer a factual question as to Trump's actions and intentions.

    He seems to have no cogent defense except, "so what".

    Trump used our tax dollars for his political goals, and in so doing seems to have broken the law through extortion, bribery, and campaign finance violations.

    Interesting days to come.

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    Originally Posted by leafs43 View Post
    So only democrats get to hear these interviews and democrats are the only one releasing statements to the media and we should trust them 100%.

    That is the liberal's version of due process.
    Is that what your master's are telling you? You realize that crooked conservatives are in these hearing too right? They're not saying anything because everyone who's come forward has verified that Trump's a POS who abused his power.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    I'm sure that was a little painful to read. I don't think I said anything wrong, however.

    Bill Taylor's statement

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tru...ttees-n1070336

    There's no doubt...well little doubt, that Republicans will ultimately choose to defend Trump in his Senate trial.

    I'm just curious at this point what possible defense they can come up with.

    'It's not wrong' is just untrue, and there's no longer a factual question as to Trump's actions and intentions.

    He seems to have no cogent defense except, "so what".

    Trump used our tax dollars for his political goals, and in so doing seems to have broken the law through extortion, bribery, and campaign finance violations.

    Interesting days to come.

    Very interesting.
    He literally held up money congress had allocated to get dirt on his political rival. And meanwhile how many in Ukraine died? And where was his obsession with "corruption" his first two years? And what about the corruption in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY we deal with? Did he hold up their aid too?

    No? That's weird.

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    Originally Posted by LukeLissen View Post
    yes

    Anytime there is a question of the constitutionality of a legal or political ruling or action, or a constitutional conflict or crisis, the Supreme Court can determine the constitutionality of a decision, ruling, or action. If they rule it unconstitutional then it is overturned and their say is the final say and law of the land.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...al-impeachment



    Another unique federal case involving a presidential dispute was the 2000 election recount - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

    Many consider that yet another leftist attempt to overthrow the results of an election.


    The SC can't just hop in and overturn impeachment, and your "source" says nothing of the sort.

    If we ever get to the point of one branch ignoring the checks of another, i.e. the Senate convicting without a trial, or the President refusing to leave office, then the SC no longer has authority that can effectively be enforced either.

    Great fodder for those with fantasies of civil war though.
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
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    Grief stage 3...bargaining.

    You're past anger and denial.

    Stage 4 is depression. That's next.

    Just make sure to walk outside...you know? Get some sunshine and vitamin D.

    Don't isolate.

    Have a great day! Remember, there's nothing, nothing...nothing, you can do. It's not your fault.

    Well, it's your fault for voting for him but it's not literally your fault he abused his power, became an insult to society, and is getting impeached.

    Trump supporters are not getting impeached.

    Trump is getting impeached.
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    Dems are ensuring they lose the house in 2020

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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    The SC can't just hop in and overturn impeachment, and your "source" says nothing of the sort.

    If we ever get to the point of one branch ignoring the checks of another, i.e. the Senate convicting without a trial, or the President refusing to leave office, then the SC no longer has authority that can effectively be enforced either.

    Great fodder for those with fantasies of civil war though.
    Yeah why would they?

    Congress has the power to impeach. The Republicans are the ones who changed the rules regarding subpoena powers, too.

    So things are working exactly how they wanted.

    They literally have nothing to complain about. The Senate is going to defend him anyway.

    It's just curious if they can come up with a colorable defense or if it will be "we don't care".
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    Taylor's testimony and statements were a joke. He, again, has zero first hand knowledge. All he offered was his opinion on what was happening, no facts, no quotes, no documents... nothing. It's as worthless as this sham proceeding is.

    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    He literally held up money congress had allocated to get dirt on his political rival. And meanwhile how many in Ukraine died? And where was his obsession with "corruption" his first two years? And what about the corruption in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY we deal with? Did he hold up their aid too?

    No? That's weird.

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