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    "Democrats have threatened to withhold salaries of State Department officials who ask for the presence of State Department lawyers in depositions" during former Ukraine Amb Yovanovitch testimony - Jim Jordan

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
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    "Democrats have threatened to withhold salaries of State Department officials who ask for the presence of State Department lawyers in depositions" during former Ukraine Amb Yovanovitch testimony - Jim Jordan

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...IG00-D003.html
    Lol WTF... can't ask for a lawyer??

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
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    "Democrats have threatened to withhold salaries of State Department officials who ask for the presence of State Department lawyers in depositions" during former Ukraine Amb Yovanovitch testimony - Jim Jordan

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...IG00-D003.html
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    Originally Posted by Bushmaster View Post
    Lol WTF... can't ask for a lawyer??
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    The House can go ahead and impeach. Big mistake, though. Trump is already trouncing Warren in key States and among college students. He is up 6 pts over Warren in Florida already and Warren is steadily losing ground and credibility. Social programs, especially Medicare for All is not appealing to those who can count and for who care about this country.
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    GOP may move Rep Jim Jordan to House Intel Committee for public impeachment fight.

    Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan may join the House Intelligence Committee

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...eachment-fight

    Rep. Jordan willing to move to Intel Committee for potential grilling of Adam Schiff under oath
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    GOP may move Rep Jim Jordan to House Intel Committee for public impeachment fight.

    Republican Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan may join the House Intelligence Committee

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...eachment-fight

    Rep. Jordan willing to move to Intel Committee for potential grilling of Adam Schiff under oath
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/jim-jo...m-schiff-trump
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    Its been Gestapo since the day the Obama IC started setting Trump's campaign up.
    Yeah, but they aren't even trying to hide it anymore. Their propaganda machine is strong...
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    Oh chit, Sonland just destroyed another right wing talking point about no QPQ and he implicated closet-homo Pence.

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    In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the linkage with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.

    “I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in the document, which was released by the House committees leading the inquiry, along with the transcript of his original testimony from last month.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Oh chit, Sonland just destroyed another right wing talking point about no QPQ and he implicated closet-homo Pence.

    That my alt right light friends is called picking up the 7 - 10 split.

    It's getting juicy...


    In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the linkage with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.

    “I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in the document, which was released by the House committees leading the inquiry, along with the transcript of his original testimony from last month.
    Again, the Ukrainian government had already decided to reopen the investigation two moths before the POTUS call, and did not even know about the the withheld aid a full month after the call.
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    Again, the Ukrainian government had already decided to reopen the investigation two moths before the POTUS call, and did not even know about the the withheld aid a full month after the call.
    lmfao. You unaware of the communications before the call, like the one Sonland is talking about?

    Yea, you unaware.

    Oh, and

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao. You unaware of the communications before the call, like the one Sonland is talking about?

    Yea, you unaware.

    Oh, and

    Not an argument.
    Again it doesn't matter, since the two facts I mentioned above show that there was no QPQ.
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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    Again it doesn't matter, since the two facts I mentioned above show that there was no QPQ.
    Was aid withheld? Yes

    Were the terms of that aid to investigate Biden? Yes

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Was aid withheld? Yes

    Were the terms of that aid to investigate Biden? Yes

    Trump dun goofed
    Wrong. There was already an investigation into Biden. Sondland is stating that it MAY have been attached to an anticorruption announcement. Again, there is no indication of pressure from either side.
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    Wrong. There was already an investigation into Biden. Sondland is stating that it MAY have been attached to an anticorruption announcement. Again, there is no indication of pressure from either side.
    lmfao. Sure, Ukraine just decided to investigate Biden a year after the interview and right when Trump's goons started pressuring them.

    Y'all are worse than the classic Chris Rock bit about getting caught in bed with a women. "wasn't me"

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao. Sure, Ukraine just decided to investigate Biden a year after the interview and right when Trump's goons started pressuring them.

    Y'all are worse than the classic Chris Rock bit about getting caught in bed with a women. "wasn't me"

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    I don't think that's gonna fly in court bro. Not only that, but they have to prove intent too.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    I don't think that's gonna fly in court bro. Not only that, but they have to prove intent too.
    oh brother.

    Ukraine just happens to start investigating biden after Trump's goons pressure them and right before Biden announces his candidacy but 5 years from the actual QPQ and a year after the Biden interview.

    Surely just some strange coincidence. Do you boyos even logic?

    And prove intent? Do you think the world is made up of cultist? Normal people see a most obvious link in hurting your main political rival.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    oh brother.

    Ukraine just happens to start investigating biden after Trump's goons pressure them and right before Biden announces his candidacy but 5 years from the actual QPQ and a year after the Biden interview.

    Surely just some strange coincidence. Do you boyos even logic?

    And prove intent? Do you think the world is made up of cultist? Normal people see a most obvious link in hurting your main political rival.

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    So you admit the investigation started BEFORE Biden announced anything, right? lol.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    So you admit the investigation started BEFORE Biden announced anything, right? lol.
    Oh, so you're going with the argument that Biden wasn't a political rival BECAUSE he hadn't OFFICIALLY announced? Is that really really the path you want to go down?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Oh, so you're going with the argument that Biden wasn't a political rival BECAUSE he hadn't OFFICIALLY announced? Is that really really the path you want to go down?
    It doesn't matter that he is a political rival or not, that doesn't make him immune to criminal activity. It also doesn't mean the the POTUS can't point it out and ask that it be investigated. And Ukraine probably decided to reopen the investigation two months before the call because if Biden bragging about it early in the year. And there is no proof that Trump pressured them to do so.
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    Sitting in an airport and forced to watch CNN - they're going nuts about Sondland's "revised testimony." LOL. So the dude testifies, later Schiff tells him it isn't good enough, so he adds a sentence saying there was a QPQ. Talk about a compromised witness...


    Also, the alleged QPQ was for Ukraine to announce it was investigating corruption - not specifically with respect to Biden. And it that's the case, what is wrong with attaching that QPQ to foreign aid? NOTHING.


    This is an absolutely abhorrent sham. Legality and process means nothing to these people - it's all politics and how they can manipulate facts using their media propaganda arm to drive the public narrative. Absolutely pissening.
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    Originally Posted by RamataKahn View Post
    It doesn't matter that he is a political rival or not, that doesn't make him immune to criminal activity. It also doesn't mean the the POTUS can't point it out and ask that it be investigated. And Ukraine probably decided to reopen the investigation two months before the call because if Biden bragging about it early in the year. And there is no proof that Trump pressured them to do so.
    Uh wrong, right, wrong, wrong, wrong, and you apparently haven't been coming out with the flood of testimony saying otherwise boyo.

    Oh and

    Not an argument.
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    It was with respect to Biden and Trump doesn't care about corruption. He likes it.
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    There is nothing wrong with conditioning aid based on a an anticorruption announcement, NOTHING. Even if it mentioned the investigations specifically into Biden and 2016, there is still nothing that proves intent was political gain.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    It was with respect to Biden and Trump doesn't care about corruption. He likes it.
    Can you imagine trying to make the argument that withholding aid until Biden was investigated wasn't politically motivated?

    The better play is for Trump supporters to just admit it and say so what, he can do what he wants. I mean he can't, but at least then they're not defending a bald face lie.
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