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    500 scientists send a letter to the UN claiming there is no climate emergency

    I wonder how much media coverage will this get.







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    What a bunch of science-denying clowns, this is a settled matter.
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    500 scientists vs a 16 year old girl.

    Education versus no education (skipping school)

    Qualifications versus shouting

    This will definitely get ignored by the media.
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    Poppycocks! I have it on good authority from Bill Nye, Greta and Alexandria ocasio-cortez that the science is settled and we all gonna die in 12 years. don't spreading fake news.
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    Man made climate change the myth propagated by john cook and lefists like obama and biden deliberately misquoted studies to manipulate the uninformed.
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    Among the ambassadors listed the only person who's even in a climate-adjacent field is Lindzen who's a meteorologist. He wrote a public letter to Trump a while back and the entire MIT climate science department signed this response:
    http://climate-science.mit.edu/wp-co...tterTrump1.png
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    The problem is there is no accreditation for calling yourself a 'scientist'. I could be studying gay fish frogs and can call myself a scientist. But that doesn't make me qualified to talk about meteorology n ****.
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    the claim of undermining the economy system doesn't seem valid. the part about people denied affordable continuous energy is also weak. countries still use oil and if bigger countries that can afford it use less oil, oil prices will fall so those smaller countries can get it more affordably.
    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
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    Don't forget to red pill the dumb people that the entire "97% of scientists agree!!" is complete bullschit.

    Also, Science is never settled. Science also isn't done by consensus.


    This desperate attempt to hand over our country to the globalists via the UN and climate hysteria needs to be put down, like the rabid, insane raccoon it is. Scaring little children with imaginary doomsday end-of-the-world crap is child abuse.
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    Originally Posted by SWDeath View Post
    Man made climate change the myth propagated by john cook and lefists like obama and biden deliberately misquoted studies to manipulate the uninformed.
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/MaFdmj2.png[/img
    Interesting.



    https://pjmedia.com/trending/liberta...warming-claim/





    Here's the full request: https://cei.org/sites/default/files/...cent_Final.pdf

    Looks like NASA has to respond until November 6. I've already heard the 97% claim too many times today.
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    Originally Posted by Tharsos View Post
    Among the ambassadors listed the only person who's even in a climate-adjacent field is Lindzen who's a meteorologist. He wrote a public letter to Trump a while back and the entire MIT climate science department signed this response:
    http://climate-science.mit.edu/wp-co...tterTrump1.png
    [img]http://climate-science.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/LetterTrump1.png[/img
    Literally the first person, the author of the letter, is a professor of geophysics. How in the world is that not climate-adjacent?
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    Don't forget to red pill the dumb people that the entire "97% of scientists agree!!" is complete bullschit.

    Also, Science is never settled. Science also isn't done by consensus.


    This desperate attempt to hand over our country to the globalists via the UN and climate hysteria needs to be put down, like the rabid, insane raccoon it is. Scaring little children with imaginary doomsday end-of-the-world crap is child abuse.
    Agreed. The climate change hoax needs to be put down immediately, fuk these fear mongers that are scaring children and driving them to hysteria.


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    Originally Posted by bassline8 View Post
    Interesting.



    https://pjmedia.com/trending/liberta...warming-claim/





    Here's the full request: https://cei.org/sites/default/files/...ent_Final.pdf+

    Looks like NASA has to respond until November 6. I've already heard the 97% claim too many times today.
    Did they nuke the page? Says page not found when i go to link :/
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    Did they nuke the page? Says page not found when i go to link :/
    Fixed, I had put a "+" after the link by accident
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    Originally Posted by knightofday View Post
    Did they nuke the page? Says page not found when i go to link :/
    https://cei.org/sites/default/files/...cent_Final.pdf
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    The science is settled, just because you bigots don't want to take in 140 million climate refugees doesnt meant that our NGOs won't be shipping them to Europe and America

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    Agreed. The climate change hoax needs to be put down immediately, fuk these fear mongers that are scaring children and driving them to hysteria.
    Yeah, that is absolutely insane, leftists parading crying kids like it's a good thing.

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    OP thanks for the link!!! Saving and sending to everyone I know who even halfway believes the climate change lies
    https://www.thegwpf.com/prof-guus-be...oom-mongering/

    Here's an interview with Guus Berkhout I'm reading at the moment, looks like he believes the Earth is warming up and CO2 is a factor, but it's just that the CO2 is not the main culprit and the planet is going through some natural cycles.

    Q: Two camps seem to be emerging, with both parties presenting each other with a doom scenario: if the climate plans are not implemented, things will go wrong! And if the climate plans are implemented, things will also go wrong. Where does this division come from?

    If you are prepared to listen carefully, you will notice that the two camps are broadly in agreement: yes, the Earth is warming up! And yes, CO2 is a warming factor! And yes, we need to prepare for a new energy system. ‘

    Q: So, everything is fine you would think?

    Well, at first there was a constructive conversation indeed. But the problems arose when the climate movement started to exaggerate. Terrifying doom stories were spread and human CO2 was the only culprit. That also happened in a very aggressive way. Think of the apocalyptic films of Al Gore. One disaster after another would hit us. The general public was shocked by all these terrifying stories. ‘

    As a counter-reaction, the climate movement insulted dissenters as ‘deniers’, a very bad framing that refers to the holocaust deniers. ‘

    Q: Hasn’t there been criticism of this fallacy right from the start?

    Yes, a number of renowned scientists, including Nobel Prize winners, quickly put the brakes on by reassuring society with a clear disapproval. Their message was that the terrestrial climate system is incredibly complicated and that we do not yet have the knowledge to draw such extreme conclusions with such certainty. It’s really not five to twelve! Those scientists were fiercely blamed for that dissent. ’

    Q: People didn’t hear a positive story anymore?

    Indeed, the doomsday scenario became a kind of religion. When the scientific criticism from outside the climate movement became broader and more extensive, and cost calculations also showed that implementing the extremely expensive climate measures could seriously disrupt society economically, things really went wrong. As a counter-reaction, the climate movement called dissenters ‘deniers’, a very bad framing that refers to the holocaust deniers. ‘

    Q: But true scientists will not be stopped, will they?

    Unfortunately, it did at first. Their critical articles were no longer welcome and, even worse, their research was excluded from funding. For these dissidents a cordon sanitaire was laid by official bodies and mainstream media. The only sound that the general public has heard in recent decades was: ‘human CO2 heats up the Earth! ’.

    Q: You hear it all around, do you?

    Sure, that message was and is being rammed into the audience. The discussion is no longer about climate change, but about CO2 reduction. A sad narrowing down of a very complex issue. Fortunately, we now see a tipping point on the horizon. Because science can measure better and better, we find out that the predictions of climate models do not match measurements. That is scientifically unacceptable. And we also see that the costs are definitely going to pass bearing. Everything suggests that costs will exceed many hundreds of billions in The Netherlands alone. And hardworking citizens are now rightly asking themselves: ‘But what are the benefits of this billion-dollar circus?

    Q: Why does one CO2 camp find more support in left-wing politics and another more support in right-wing politics?

    Left-wing politics has always been committed to a better environment. But in recent years, the environmental movement has been step by step exploited by the climate movement. In this way, climate and environment were presented as one and the same theme and climate change also became a favourite with the Left. The mixing of both movements now causes a lot of confusion. Many people who say they are very concerned about climate change actually mean that they are very concerned about the natural environment, such as air pollution. ’

    I regularly give lectures on climate and environment and before the beginning there are always people coming to me with vicious remarks such as: “So, you are the one who wants to screw-up our Earth”.

    The cutting down of forests and the subsequent production, transport and incineration of wood pellets are issues that go against everything the environmental movement stands for.

    Q: You could also say: there is a common front?

    Indeed, they thought they were making a smart strategic move with it. But the combination of the two movements has been a very unfortunate development for everyone. After all, in the case of climate change it is still very uncertain exactly what and how much the influence of mankind is, but in the case of the environment, the influence is absolutely clear. Human activity is becoming increasingly dominant and is polluting the natural environment, depleting natural resources and threatening biodiversity. These three are the classic concerns of the environmental movement and are more topical than ever in this day and age! But unfortunately, these noble concerns have now been completely overshadowed by the monomaniacal CO2 measures. The environmental movement is now beginning to realise that they made a cardinal mistake.

    Burning bio-mass is even worse than burning coal

    The first clear controversy now plays and is about the role of biomass. The cutting-down of forests and the subsequent production, transport and incineration of wood pellets are issues that go against everything the environmental movement stands for. There are even business models on the drawing board that want to cut down forests for pellets and then place solar panels on the vacant bare ground. This way a double business model is created.……… . How have environmental organisations been able to get this far from their mission? ’

    Q: Where do you stand in all this?

    I am a geophysicist and in my research I make the history of the Earth’s climate visible, which is called ‘geo-imaging’. After all, to understand the present you need to know the past. The geological archive contains rich climate information and tells us the primeval story of climate change: it is of all times. The archive shows very nicely that hot and cold periods have alternated regularly. This happened in fits and starts, two steps forward and then one step backward. For an illustration, we really do not have to go back to the great ice ages.

    In the Middle Ages, around 800, we had the Middle-age Warm Period. Then there was plenty of agriculture in Greenland! And in the Dutch golden age, around 1600, we were in the middle of the Little Ice Age. The Dutch great painters show beautiful scenes from that cold period. From the end of that small ice age, around 1850, we are in a warming up period, of course again with fits and starts. Nothing special, I say. These are the natural movements in the climate system. Soon it will go down again. ’ [...]
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    Literally the first person, the author of the letter, is a professor of geophysics. How in the world is that not climate-adjacent?

    Paleoclimatology. Ice cores, sediment cores, etc.
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    Nah, they'll just say the oil companies paid them off
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    Originally Posted by N0rds View Post
    Don't forget to red pill the dumb people that the entire "97% of scientists agree!!" is complete bullschit.

    Also, Science is never settled. Science also isn't done by consensus.


    This desperate attempt to hand over our country to the globalists via the UN and climate hysteria needs to be put down, like the rabid, insane raccoon it is. Scaring little children with imaginary doomsday end-of-the-world crap is child abuse.
    uhhhh … yeah nah that's pretty much exactly how science is deemed 'settled' unless new evidence is found to be contrary. Its called peer review. Not that I agree with their agenda but this is wrong as hell statement.
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    lmfao. May as well be signed by a bunch of preachers for all the credibility and actual science they know.

    Founded by some dude that used to work for Shell.

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    I'm not even a scientist...

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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    This is such a retarded statement to make. Literally no one is arguing climate change doesn't exist. Otherwise you'd be claiming things like ice ages and warming periods don't exist. Congratulations, you literally agree with every single person on Earth.

    It's about whether people are causing a change. And without a control, that's impossible to answer. We don't have a mirror Earth without carbon emissions to compare to. Anyone telling you that climate change is "science" is a liar. The field of climate change "modeling" says we're causing part of the warming. But you can make a model to say anything.
    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Not climate change. Climate's been changing by itself for the history of the planet.

    "Man made" climate change. Prove to me, scientifically, that we're responsible.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    lmfao. May as well be signed by a bunch of preachers for all the credibility and actual science they know.

    Founded by some dude that used to work for Shell
    ... 43 years ago

    Professor Guus Berkhout started his career with Shell in 1964, where he held several international positions in R&D and technology transfer. In 1976 he accepted a Chair in Geophysical and Acoustical Imaging at Delft University of Technology (TU Delft). During 1998 – 2001 he has been a member of the University Board, being responsible for scientific research and intellectual property. In 2001 he also accepted a chair in the field of Innovation Management. He has written several hundreds scientific papers and a number of books in the field of geophysics and innovation. In 2003 he received the Maurice Ewing Gold Medal, Society of Exploration Geophysicists (SEG).

    Since the early nineties, professor Berkhout has concentrated on matters related to innovation policy. In 1997, he was invited by the OECD to give advice on science and technology issues. He also served as chairman of the committee of experts that advised the Dutch government on the environmental problems around The Netherlands’ international airport, Schiphol. Professor Guus Berkhout is a member of the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences (KNAW), The Netherlands Academy of Engineering (AcTI), honourary member of the Society of Exploration Geophysicists (SEG) as well as honourary member of the European Association of Geoscientists and Engineers (EAGE).

    Professor Guus Berkhout is available for lectures. His topics include: Innovation and Entrepreneurship; Political Innovation and Leadership; Scientific Policy in relation to the Knowledge Economy; Geophysical Research.
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    Originally Posted by bassline8 View Post
    He's been a climate change denier for 30 freaking years. Because he's funded by Shell. Duh
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