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    Lever Arms Opinions...

    I'm thinking of getting a pair of lever arms for extra variety on the rack (primarily for pressing movements)...but since these are mere accessory pieces, I'm not looking to invest a lot into them...

    I see that Titan has their T-3 Lever Arms available at a real competitive price, despite their reputation the reviews seemed favorable and that they didn't screw this particular item up.

    I have a 2X3 Mech rack and have heard mention that these arms fit on certain racks aside from their own...while I'll have to check and am hesitant about potentially diseasing a Mech rack with a Titan item mating with it, at the lower price I might take that risk.

    Any other feedback, or opinions on these arms? The only review I've seen on them is from two board members on here and the Titan site.

    I also messaged Dean at BWTG to see if he would be open to take a crack at building them and perhaps maybe a better version (ideas of improvement welcome, when he gets back and we discuss the potential build).

    Going this route will most likely be a bit more expensive, but I'd be open to it depending on the price and if it improves the style of the lever arms such as quicker and easier adjustments taking them on and off instead of having to bolt and un-bolt them.
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    Originally Posted by Deep-Voiced-One View Post
    I'm thinking of getting a pair of lever arms for extra variety on the rack (primarily for pressing movements)...but since these are mere accessory pieces, I'm not looking to invest a lot into them...

    I see that Titan has their T-3 Lever Arms available at a real competitive price, despite their reputation the reviews seemed favorable and that they didn't screw this particular

    item up.

    I have a 2X3 Mech rack and have heard mention that these arms fit on certain racks aside from their own...while I'll have to check and am hesitant about potentially diseasing a Mech rack with a Titan item mating with it, at the lower price I might take that risk.

    Any other feedback, or opinions on these arms? The only review I've seen on them is from two board members on here and the Titan site.

    I also messaged Dean at BWTG to see if he would be open to take a crack at building them and perhaps maybe a better version (ideas of improvement welcome, when he gets back and we discuss the potential build).

    Going this route will most likely be a bit more expensive, but I'd be open to it depending on the price and if it improves the style of the lever arms such as quicker and easier adjustments taking them on and off instead of having to bolt and un-bolt them.
    I have a pair of ATX Barbarian Line lever arms, as it turns out, their main purpose in my set up is to gather dust, not a fan of these arms, or rack mounted accessories in general..
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    Originally Posted by gym62richard View Post
    I have a pair of ATX Barbarian Line lever arms, as it turns out, their main purpose in my set up is to gather dust, not a fan of these arms, or rack mounted accessories in general..
    Agreed on the jammer arms. People see these videos on IG of the dozens of exercises you CAN do on them - but it doesn't mean they are good exercises.
    I think they are gimmicks. Maybe good for universities for sports-specific work - but for hypertrophy-focused or even strength-focused home programs, I fail to see the utility.
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    Originally Posted by Bench905 View Post
    Agreed on the jammer arms. People see these videos on IG of the dozens of exercises you CAN do on them - but it doesn't mean they are good exercises.
    I think they are gimmicks. Maybe good for universities for sports-specific work - but for hypertrophy-focused or even strength-focused home programs, I fail to see the utility.
    The only purpose they serve on my rack is to look “cool.” I literally never use them.
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    Would never get a set of bolted ones. Adjustable ones, maybe, but, like others here, pretty sure I'd never use them except for ultra high rep rehab band only movements.
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    The problem with the ones I've seen is that they're too expensive for what they do. They need more functionality, they need to be adjustable, and they need to cost less than buying a full power rack. None check all of those boxes yet.
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    I appreciate the info fellas, I wouldn't spend a hefty premium on them for what they are for sure and since looking at my rack when I worked out today, it looks like they might be more of an elephant attached to it and maybe impede some valuable lifting space.
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    Originally Posted by dukenukem7777 View Post
    The problem with the ones I've seen is that they're too expensive for what they do. They need more functionality, they need to be adjustable, and they need to cost less than buying a full power rack. None check all of those boxes yet.
    I completely agree with this...my buddy got a set of the $250 Trolley Arms from Rogue, we played around with them to see what exercises they're good with, and at the end of the day, they're worth about $250. There isn't nearly the amount of usage you think there could be. They only do a few movements well, they aren't that easy to move up and down, conceptually, they sound great, but real world usage, not that great.
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    I've been intrigued by lever arms for a few years now. I would not buy any if you had to bolt them to the rack. They have to be be adjustable and be able to slide up and down the post like the Rogue arms, I'd like them to swing out of the way as well, like the Legend arms, and I would like them to have a converge option like the Legend arms. If there was a set that did those three things, then I'd probably bite. Basically, they have to be easy to use, and move out of the way if I'm not using them.
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    Originally Posted by MGM711 View Post
    I completely agree with this...my buddy got a set of the $250 Trolley Arms from Rogue, we played around with them to see what exercises they're good with, and at the end of the day, they're worth about $250. There isn't nearly the amount of usage you think there could be. They only do a few movements well, they aren't that easy to move up and down, conceptually, they sound great, but real world usage, not that great.
    I would definitely drop $250 on the Rogue ones but every time I have looked at them considering the purchase (at full price) I just can't see the value. At first glance it seems like it would be a substitution for a lot of the Hammer Strength machines but when you are limited by the angles it might just be a couple. There's a lot of other niche type equipment I would rather have and get more use out of for basically $1K.
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    The seated row is one of my favorite accessory pieces and the only use of these handles would've been for pressing, but I think if I go for another piece in this category I would go for a functional trainer instead.

    Also as far as rack accessories, I would probably go with the belt squat if/when I meet my flipping quota.
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    Originally Posted by ncsuLuke View Post
    At first glance it seems like it would be a substitution for a lot of the Hammer Strength machines but when you are limited by the angles it might just be a couple.
    I bought my lever arms in the hope that I could replicate some of the movements offered by a deadlift/shrug machine, such as the Hammer Strength unit.

    As you'd expect the rack mounted arms just don't compare to a dedicated lever machine, but IMO the difference was so great as to make them functionally poor, to the point of not being worth the effort of placing them on to the rack.
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    Incidently BWTG got back to me and said the arms would be $475 plus shipping and would not have to be attached to the rack, just out of curiousity I messaged them back to see how they attach and adjust.
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    Quick update, BWTG got back and described how they make their lever arms (if anyone's interested)...

    "It would be more of a U with a bolt like my dip attachment or a bolt on bracket that has a pin that would take the arm off. Dean will just need a picture of the rack and see the best way to attach it."

     
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    Originally Posted by Deep-Voiced-One View Post
    Quick update, BWTG got back and described how they make their lever arms (if anyone's interested)...

    "It would be more of a U with a bolt like my dip attachment or a bolt on bracket that has a pin that would take the arm off. Dean will just need a picture of the rack and see the best way to attach it."

     
    Sounds like a pain. Still don't know why you want a full set of those.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    Sounds like a pain. Still don't know why you want a full set of those.
    I'm not gonna get those, too expensive and inconvenient for little to no benefit out of them...I was just being nosey before and then BWTG gave me the info on them.
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