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    How long

    So I made this thread to see what numbers on the big 4 did you make in your first few years of training. Thank you
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    You shouldnt be worrying about numbers.
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    I started going to the gym weighing 44kg. It took about 3 months on machines before I was ready to bench press the empty barbell, about 3 years before I learned to squat and deadlift at all, and closer to 5 years before I had the knowledge, skills and confidence to squat and deadlift with anything resembling powerlifting technique.

    At that time, I weighed 62-64kg, my 1RM bench press was 62.5kg, my 1RM deadlift was 100kg, and the most I'd squatted to parallel was 4x70kg.

    After 3 months off, I stripped all the weight down and did Starting Strength (+pull ups, +rows), and tested my 1RMs in the final week of the year, weighing 65-68kg and hitting 110kg squat, 67.5kg bench press and 115kg deadlift.

    Over the next year, I reached a bodyweight of 77kg (heaviest I've ever been, and at that stage I was fat), with squat 5x117.5kg, bench press 1x82.5kg and deadlift 5x135kg. I went into a fat loss phase, lost about 10kg (revealing that I didn't need to eat to excess and make myself fat to get the positive results I'd achieved in that time), and after another year I achieved: squat 1x140kg, bench press 1x90kg, deadlift 1x160kg.
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    Originally Posted by DCSpartan View Post
    You shouldnt be worrying about numbers.
    Not even a little especially on these upper body plateaus I made a few threads back?
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    Originally Posted by bmo8 View Post
    Not even a little especially on these upper body plateaus I made a few threads back?
    No you shouldn't worry, what matters for you is that you are progressing in strength both near max (1-4 reps) and working strength (5-12 reps). Comparing yourself to others never really works as too much individual differences exist.

    For example I am 6ft 2 and I imagine a lot heavier then you even in the first few real years of working out correctly so comparing strength levels would be pointless as I have the mechanical advantage.

    It doesn't matter become a better version of yourself and you have succeeded it matters not what others lift.
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    Originally Posted by hardyboysare View Post
    No you shouldn't worry, what matters for you is that you are progressing in strength both near max (1-4 reps) and working strength (5-12 reps). Comparing yourself to others never really works as too much individual differences exist.

    For example I am 6ft 2 and I imagine a lot heavier then you even in the first few real years of working out correctly so comparing strength levels would be pointless as I have the mechanical advantage.

    It doesn't matter become a better version of yourself and you have succeeded it matters not what others lift.
    But I'm afraid that this long of not progressing in my lifts is a problem and the fact that I'm losing strenght is worse
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    LOL, I am too old to remember that.
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    Originally Posted by bmo8 View Post
    But I'm afraid that this long of not progressing in my lifts is a problem and the fact that I'm losing strenght is worse
    That is dependent on your training, nutrition and form. Not whether other people are stronger or not. I have seen some of your videos on form so that is one of your problems.

    Do you follow a weight training program? As if you only weight train occasionally that will cause a major problem.

    According to your bodyspace you are 14. This should be the least of your concern.

    All you need to do is eat nutritional foods containing lean meats, veg, fruit, wholegrain, legumes, eggs, milk etc and eat when you are hungry, follow your hunger cues, try and ensure you get some protein source in every meal. If you aren't gaining weight then add in extra empty calorie snacks.

    Follow a progressive training program. Nothing advanced just a simple program one of these would be fine:-

    https://stronglifts.com/5x5/ - Strong Lifts

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...9172473&page=1 - All pro

    https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...2916931&page=1 - Fierce 5

    If equipment is a problem having a simple barbell will be enough for Strong Lifts.

    After that just enjoy being young and let your body grow you don't need to be critique of yourself. Eat to gain weight and weight training whilst being active in general and social.

    Nothing else is needed. Your strength will increase as you get older and eating to get bigger whilst following a simple training program keep doing this for the next 4-5 years and you will grow like a weed!
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    Originally Posted by bmo8 View Post
    But I'm afraid that this long of not progressing in my lifts is a problem and the fact that I'm losing strenght is worse
    Your workout (nsuns) is not appropriate for your current state.
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    Originally Posted by CommitmentRulz View Post
    Your workout (nsuns) is not appropriate for your current state.
    Which you've now been told about 6 or 7 times from several different people. Worrying about what others accomplished is pointless as they would all be starting at different heights, weights, levels of maturity(puberty), athletic backgrounds etc.
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    bro you cant even bench 1 plate yet, you arnt plateau-ing your form is just ****. i dont think you listen to what anybody says here. whats the point of making these posts if your not gonna listen?
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    You are a kid and skinny. You are starting at a much lower baseline. I'm 35 and had basically a lifetime of enjoying a multitude of various activities and sports my entire life and started lifting with a lot of muscle already built up. Can't compare at all.
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    I made quite a few numbers in my first 2 years, I think I used all of them including zero
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    Also raw number mean little.
    Just for fun, suppose you weighed 110lbs and you benched 110lbs... could you compare that to someone who weighs 220lbs who can only bench 110lbs - same amount of bench but totally different situations.

    Still far from perfect but you may get more use out of bodyweight multiples. Like one possible target to aim for in future would be working towards bench your own bodyweight (just as one example) This is better than asking if I can bench some number or if you should bench X lbs.

    Edit: for perspective, could you give an idea of your starting bodyweight Mr Squid. Thank you sir.
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    Originally Posted by OldFartTom View Post
    Edit: for perspective, could you give an idea of your starting bodyweight Mr Squid. Thank you sir.
    I weighed 166 and and I bulked up to 172. I am at 170...steady for 2 yrs now....last 10lbs...been a biatch...

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    Originally Posted by bmo8 View Post
    But I'm afraid that this long of not progressing in my lifts is a problem and the fact that I'm losing strenght is worse
    claims the child that brags about benching 7 days a week.
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