Vick's Dating Log and Advice Thread v. 3.0 (that escalated quickly!)

[Luc1fer]

well you're online talking to random people on the internet on a dating forum. Whats the point of doing that if you refuse to believe anyone

I believe things that are believable. But you’ll find that I generally question most claims, or play devil’s advocate.

It is not believable that in a couple with a healthy, close relationship, where personality and character and virtue is revealed through action, one of them suddenly breaks up with the other with zero signs, behavioral changes or communication.

[BlackScorpio91]

havent caught up on replies yet but everyone chill the fuuck out. bbm is a personal friend of mine and even if you agree or disagree with whatever is said in the thread, lets be misc brahs and not hate brahs. this is a brotherhood boyos. i love the involvement in the thread but i want everyone working together here.

Is he this annoying and talkative about his lackluster dating life irl?

[BigBallsMcgee]

havent caught up on replies yet but everyone chill the fuuck out. bbm is a personal friend of mine and even if you agree or disagree with whatever is said in the thread, lets be misc brahs and not hate brahs. this is a brotherhood boyos. i love the involvement in the thread but i want everyone working together here.

these guys are dicks man, I dont really care but when they spout nonsense to me or try to insult me I WILL tell them to fuk off. dont understand why they feel the need to do that, we're all here for some vick 3.0

[BigBallsMcgee]

I believe things that are believable. But you’ll find that I generally question most claims, or play devil’s advocate.

It is not believable that in a couple with a healthy, close relationship, where personality and character and virtue is revealed through action, one of them suddenly breaks up with the other with zero signs, behavioral changes or communication.

well it literally just happened to vick, as an example of that.

[Luc1fer]

havent caught up on replies yet but everyone chill the fuuck out. bbm is a personal friend of mine and even if you agree or disagree with whatever is said in the thread, lets be misc brahs and not hate brahs. this is a brotherhood boyos. i love the involvement in the thread but i want everyone working together here.

As your good friend, did he advise you to re-evaluate your investment in this chick, while your effort wasn’t being reciprocated?

[BigBallsMcgee]

As your good friend, did he advise you to re-evaluate your investment in this chick, while your effort wasn’t being reciprocated?

I dont give advise on other people's relationships, so no I did not. Vick knows what he's doing clearly.

[Rebel012]

well it literally just happened to vick, as an example of that.

He probably hasn't yet had time to fully process it or go back and examine past events...not that he has to or even should spend time doing that. Maybe his was the very rare case where something like that does actually happen without any warning signs, but I can tell you from actual experience it's not the norm.

[Luc1fer]

I dont give advise on other people's relationships, so no I did not. Vick knows what he's doing clearly.

Lmao

[BigBallsMcgee]

He probably hasn't yet had time to fully process it or go back and examine past events...not that he has to or even should spend time doing that. Maybe his the very rare case where something like that does actually happen without any warning signs, but I can tell you from actual experience it's not the norm.

Ok, believe whatever you want I've seen this happen a ton though in my own experience

[BlackScorpio91]

"Your own experience"

A 28 year old incel who can't get no pussy because he's "ugly" and "short" and "black" with no relationship experience speaking on behalf of people.

Ok.

[xvicknumber7x]

so as far as how i viewed the relationship goes, i largely viewed myself as both an emotional manager and a boyfriend as time went by. obviously the first year or so was really good, and then some significant depression and anxiety issues began to hit. combine that with a tough work situation, and i went into a role of boyfriend and emotional crutch. i did not mind this, and had plenty of opportunities to leave. however, i justified staying for the following reason: in my past relationships, I have always done things that were not good in secret. i just have. not proud of it, but i havent been the best boyfriend in the past. in this relationship, i resolved to do the right thing always, hang tough for my chick, and let things fall where they may, even when they got very difficult, which they did frequently. but i wanted to see both if i was capable of this, and what it would lead to.

if you go back over our history, i'm sure there were small things that i attributed to anxiety and depression that were probably indicators of some sort of strange thinking, but nothing that ever indicated to me that we were on borrowed time. there is literally not a single saying, event, attitude, mood, anything i can say "yep, there it was." there just wasn't. we had our routine, i took her out, i took care of her when she was laying in bed all day, i left nothing there that i could have probably ignored. in the end, that got me burnt badly, and after being kicked to the curb, i realize how much i was doing and how much effort i was putting in that just wasnt as often reciprocated. the thing was that i just did not care. i was obsessed with the idea of doing things "right" for myself and for her, not just for her. in doing so, i learned a ton about myself and what i am capable of.

it hurt to be dumped. big time. especially when i worked so hard and put so much emotional energy into the relationship. but now, just a day shy of 14 days later, i'm fine with it all because i regret nothing and learned so much about myself, and lastly, i am happy with my actions. since getting back out there, it is now clear to me that my value has somehow risen. so even though it went bad, overall, there is no event or anything i can really look back on and say 'yep, shoulda seen it' based on the things she was telling me about the future and present and stuff. i was always there, i did the right things, and i know i can do that for someone who has the same ideas as me. it just sorta happened, and i always knew it was a possibility because not many good things last forever, but i am far enough removed from it to know that i probably couldnt carry that forever. that is another thing i have learned.

she was a chronically terrible communicator. she got anxious about everything. she was molested when a child. there were a lot of issues there i wanted to hang in there with. i did my job. i do think something went wrong in the last week or so, and i happen to believe that something her friends said or did or whatever made her do this. but i dont think about it. it is what it is tbh. and that is okay.

tldr; no signs, no anything, always tried to do the right thing, knowledge of self gained, feel great about it all now, things fall apart.

[xvicknumber7x]

Is he this annoying and talkative about his lackluster dating life irl?

he lives about 2500 miles away from me but honestly when he is around me you wouldn't even know that the bbm account is him. he is happy, laughs, just a good brah.

[BlackScorpio91]

he lives about 2500 miles away from me but honestly when he is around me you wouldn't even know that the bbm account is him. he is happy, laughs, just a good brah.

Well I'm glad he acts different in real.life.

[Luc1fer]

she was a chronically terrible communicator

There it is

[xvicknumber7x]

Well I'm glad he acts different in real.life.

he is a good friend. someone you want to have around.

There it is

as long as the actions were in line with what i needed to see, i didn't really anticipate everything falling apart in an hour.

[BlackScorpio91]

he is a good friend. someone you want to have around.



as long as the actions were in line with what i needed to see, i didn't really anticipate everything falling apart in an hour.

Well judging by his post history on here, he seems melodramtic and obnoxious as hell online, I remember when his future girl didn't text him back for several hours, he got all depressed and started getting emotional and drinking and chit. I'm like "Wow". I get venting online but doing it constantly is just weird.

Maybe I'm made of tougher stuff but I don't be going online and constantly bitching about my problem (I vent with close friends irl). A few times I've did that but it's rare.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Well judging by his post history on here, he seems melodramtic and obnoxious as hell online, I remember when his future girl didn't text him back, he got all depressed and started getting emotional and drinking and chit. I'm like "Wow".

you have some weird obsession with me I dont understand.

why do you think my posts on an internet dating forum means there's nothing more to me as a human being?

Give it a rest. the guy who actually knows me is telling you you are wrong. move on and stop fuking talking about me every chance you get. I'm not that interesting

[Luc1fer]

as long as the actions were in line with what i needed to see, i didn't really anticipate everything falling apart in an hour.

I can empathize pretty heavily with your story btw, since my ex was emotionally unstable, at least with GAD (general anxiety disorder) - fear of going to supermarket alone etc.

[BlackScorpio91]

you have some weird obsession with me I dont understand.

why do you think my posts on an internet dating forum means there's nothing more to me as a human being?

Give it a rest. the guy who actually knows me is telling you you are wrong. move on and stop fuking talking about me every chance you get. I'm not that interesting

Because it's funny as hell clowning your ass and getting a reaction out of you LOL.

You maybe this cool guy irl but on here you're annoying. I do believe Vick but just saying....other people can vouch for me.

But ok seriously moving on to Vick's dating log.

[BigBallsMcgee]

Because it's funny as hell clowning your ass and getting a reaction out of you LOL.

You maybe this cool guy irl but on here you're annoying. I do believe Vick but just saying....other people can vouch for me.

All I ever do is tell people like you that what you assume about me is wrong. That's all I ever do. And give the red pill about women. Thats it. If that makes me annoying, maybe stop mentioning my name every 5 seconds and I won't have a reason to say anything to you

[BlackScorpio91]

All I ever do is tell people like you that what you assume about me is wrong. That's all I ever do. And give the red pill about women. Thats it. If that makes me annoying, maybe stop mentioning my name every 5 seconds and I won't have a reason to say anything to you

You also complain about your dating life on here......especially in your last account.

And plus there were plenty of times you responded to me when I didn't even mention you (i.e. I'm short and ugly, that won't work for me) when I give people that actually need it advice.

I wouldn't have even been clowning your ass if you didn't come into threads to bitch and complain (this one I admit you didn't do that). There was a time I was actually cordial with you so it's really your own fault. But anyway I'll stop doing it just a little bit

[BlackScorpio91]

And LOL at negging me when I actually agreed with vick.

UMAD! LOL

Dance.

[sloppyjoe1]

for sure dude, I have no reason not to. its fun talking to multiple girls and I am not looking to jump into a relationship at all.

Same bro. I was with a girl for 5 years, she lived with me for 4 years. Broke my heart. Then 5 months later I tried to date again and I broke the girls heart because I wasn't ready. Now I'm just trying to get my career in order and tell girls immediately i just want to be friends/have fun for awhile.

[Rebel012]

That's all I ever do. And give the red pill about women.

You don't though, you blame 'feminism' for the fact that you can't get laid. And you convey your own truth about women as though it applies to all men who are struggling.

[Luc1fer]

And give the red pill about women. Thats it. If that makes me annoying, maybe stop mentioning my name every 5 seconds and I won't have a reason to say anything to you

Yes, regurgitating MGTOW red pill tripe makes you annoying. Stop doing it. It makes you as bad as a strident modern feminist.

Go out and date real women and you'll soon discover that although general female nature exists (as male nature does), there are good and bad sides to it. You'll also discover that MGTOW circles are cherry-picked-circle-jerk-echo-chambers.

[BlackScorpio91]

Yes, regurgitating MGTOW red pill tripe makes you annoying. Stop doing it. It makes you as bad as a strident modern feminist.

Go out and date real women and you'll soon discover that although general female nature exists (as male nature does), there are good and bad sides to it. You'll also discover that MGTOW circles are cherry-picked-circle-jerk-echo-chambers.

Exactly.

The thing is no matter how much he spouts about "red pill", it ain't gonna help him. He's still gonna have trouble getting laid.

And mother****er stop saying you're red pill BigBallsMcgee, you're really black pilled.

[xvicknumber7x]

Well judging by his post history on here, he seems melodramtic and obnoxious as hell online, I remember when his future girl didn't text him back for several hours, he got all depressed and started getting emotional and drinking and chit. I'm like "Wow". I get venting online but doing it constantly is just weird.

Maybe I'm made of tougher stuff but I don't be going online and constantly bitching about my problem (I vent with close friends irl). A few times I've did that but it's rare.

we express our feelings in different ways. can't fault a man for how he expresses things IMO, we have a hard enough time already.

you have some weird obsession with me I dont understand.

why do you think my posts on an internet dating forum means there's nothing more to me as a human being?

Give it a rest. the guy who actually knows me is telling you you are wrong. move on and stop fuking talking about me every chance you get. I'm not that interesting

i think y'all should just ignore each other.

I can empathize pretty heavily with your story btw, since my ex was emotionally unstable, at least with GAD (general anxiety disorder) - fear of going to supermarket alone etc.

yeah, it wasn't quite that bad, but it was more interpersonal stuff like what people think and say, etc. it never tired me out. i was ready for the work.

Because it's funny as hell clowning your ass and getting a reaction out of you LOL.

You maybe this cool guy irl but on here you're annoying. I do believe Vick but just saying....other people can vouch for me.

But ok seriously moving on to Vick's dating log.

like I said, he's been my friend for like 15 years lol. i tend to leave a lot of people behind, but i'll always like him. he has an understanding of me that few people do. and he is tremendously smart.

All I ever do is tell people like you that what you assume about me is wrong. That's all I ever do. And give the red pill about women. Thats it. If that makes me annoying, maybe stop mentioning my name every 5 seconds and I won't have a reason to say anything to you

what is the red pill/black pill again? i need the definitions.

You also complain about your dating life on here......especially in your last account.

And plus there were plenty of times you responded to me when I didn't even mention you (i.e. I'm short and ugly, that won't work for me) when I give people that actually need it advice.

I wouldn't have even been clowning your ass if you didn't come into threads to bitch and complain (this one I admit you didn't do that). There was a time I was actually cordial with you so it's really your own fault. But anyway I'll stop doing it just a little bit

some people just dont mix i suppose.

And LOL at negging me when I actually agreed with vick.

UMAD! LOL

Dance.

i hope we can end it here.

Same bro. I was with a girl for 5 years, she lived with me for 4 years. Broke my heart. Then 5 months later I tried to date again and I broke the girls heart because I wasn't ready. Now I'm just trying to get my career in order and tell girls immediately i just want to be friends/have fun for awhile.

i know im not ready either, i'm just making that abundantly clear and just trying to see if i can rekindle my old magic. i used to be so cool, and i think that i am finding that guy again. its like the work wore me down a little. my sister said she already sees a difference.

You don't though, you blame 'feminism' for the fact that you can't get laid. And you convey your own truth about women as though it applies to all men who are struggling.

why is feminism to blame?

Yes, regurgitating MGTOW red pill tripe makes you annoying. Stop doing it. It makes you as bad as a strident modern feminist.

Go out and date real women and you'll soon discover that although general female nature exists (as male nature does), there are good and bad sides to it. You'll also discover that MGTOW circles are cherry-picked-circle-jerk-echo-chambers.

oh no not mgtow. bunch of clowns over there tbh.

Exactly.

The thing is no matter how much he spouts about "red pill", it ain't gonna help him. He's still gonna have trouble getting laid.

And mother****er stop saying you're red pill BigBallsMcgee, you're really black pilled.

what are these pills? the only pills i know about are the d12 purple pills.

[BlackScorpio91]

we express our feelings in different ways. can't fault a man for how he expresses things IMO, we have a hard enough time already.



i think y'all should just ignore each other.



yeah, it wasn't quite that bad, but it was more interpersonal stuff like what people think and say, etc. it never tired me out. i was ready for the work.



like I said, he's been my friend for like 15 years lol. i tend to leave a lot of people behind, but i'll always like him. he has an understanding of me that few people do. and he is tremendously smart.



what is the red pill/black pill again? i need the definitions.



some people just dont mix i suppose.



i hope we can end it here.



i know im not ready either, i'm just making that abundantly clear and just trying to see if i can rekindle my old magic. i used to be so cool, and i think that i am finding that guy again. its like the work wore me down a little. my sister said she already sees a difference.



why is feminism to blame?



oh no not mgtow. bunch of clowns over there tbh.



what are these pills? the only pills i know about are the d12 purple pills.

You never seen the Matrix?

And yes MGTOW are a bunch of clowns who got ripped off by women but the reality of it is that they were at fault to a certain degree.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Manosphere_glossary

[xvicknumber7x]

no, i have seen an embarrassingly low amount of movies in my life. i just dont have the patience.

[skinnyfat88]

I think when you're dealing with someone who has severe mental health issues and has experienced trauma such as what you have described, there is really no point trying to over-analyze the way we are longing to do.

IMO, this is why relationships are less likely to work when one (or both) of the people involved begin the relationship in a place where they still need a significant amount of work to feel emotionally stable/healthy.

I've often thought it is appealing to date someone whom you can clearly "help" in life beyond just enjoying your time together as it gives you purpose as well but in reality the relationships that probably work best are those where neither of you "needs" the other, you just recognize you enjoy your life better with them as opposed to without them and are both understanding of their interests outside of your relationship and can communicate in a way where neither of you is resentful for the compromises you make within the relationship.

Perhaps your ex simply could not fathom why you went above and beyond for her well-being and the fact you poured so much time and effort into her when you could be doing things with your life that made you happier was subconsciously a turn off.