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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Do you think that background checks intended to prevent violent criminals or the mentally deranged from acquiring firearms violate the second amendment?

    Scotus has ruled that even free speech is not absolute and is subject to sensible restrictions when life and safety are at stake.
    Background checks don't already exist?

    Also, we still have free speech, you just can't threaten someone or do something like yell fire in a movie theater.

    You probably want to see "hate speech" laws passed, like the little regressive you are.....
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Do you think that background checks intended to prevent violent criminals or the mentally deranged from acquiring firearms violate the second amendment?

    Scotus has ruled that even free speech is not absolute and is subject to sensible restrictions when life and safety are at stake.
    Federal background checks can't be extended to private transactions among the people unless there is also a coinciding legal requirement for all private firearm owners to register all privately-owned firearms with the federal government.

    Federal background checks can only be enforced on firearm manufacturers and dealers because of their legal contracts with the federal government. There is no legal contract between the people and the federal government allowing enforcement of regulations on firearms transactions amongst them.

    You can't prevent violent criminals or the mentally ill from obtaining firearms, at least not the ones who are free among the general population. That's an accepted unfortunate situation in a country that has freedom. With the good sometimes comes some bad as well.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    How is that BREAKING NEWS?

    Also, you don't know **** about firearms, but you think you're educated on the topic?
    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Background checks don't already exist?

    Also, we still have free speech, you just can't threaten someone or do something like yell fire in a movie theater.

    You probably want to see "hate speech" laws passed, like the little regressive you are.....
    Why are you so angry? This is an internet discussion forum. Nobody posting here can cause you any personal harm. We are just talking about current events.

    No joking around dude, that anger you're festering is getting worse. Either this forum is really bad for your mental health and you should take a step back, or you have some other serious negative stuff going on in your personal life that you should get professional help with in dealing with it. You're spiraling down lately and it's really quite unhealthy.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Why are you so angry? This is an internet discussion forum. Nobody posting here can cause you any personal harm. We are just talking about current events.

    No joking around dude, that anger you're festering is getting worse. Either this forum is really bad for your mental health and you should take a step back, or you have some other serious negative stuff going on in your personal life that you should get professional help with in dealing with it. You're spiraling down lately and it's really quite unhealthy.
    And you throw the good old, "You're angry," line out there, because you don't know what you're talking about.....like usual.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    imagine thinking that the only way to protect against drowning was to install a swimming pool and then finding out that owning a swimming pool makes your family 3 times more likely to drown, but then rejecting that logic and thinking that it will be different with you because you're a responsible pool owner and nothing like that would ever happen to you.
    What you confluating two different things.

    If I was afraid of having a gun accident, then no I wouldn't buy a gun to feel safe.

    If you have a gun for protection, it is against violence brought on you by someone else. And they do that very well.

    And now that I think about it - having a gun doesn't make me feel safe, it is part of being prepared. Like having a fire extinguisher - doesn't make me feel safe and I still have to take precautions to not start a fire. But I know that I am prepared in case the need arises.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    Do you think that background checks intended to prevent violent criminals or the mentally deranged from acquiring firearms violate the second amendment?

    Scotus has ruled that even free speech is not absolute and is subject to sensible restrictions when life and safety are at stake.
    The background checks themselves, no. But the laws that require background checks because they restrict ownership to felons and the mentally ill, yes a violation of the Second Amendment. I understand there are restrictions to the Bill of Rights but I don't agree with these.
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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    says the guy who claims you have a 1/13 chance of being involved in a mass shooting.

    LMFAO.
    Lol, no. I said they've occurred once in every thirteen days in 2019.

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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    The background checks themselves, no. But the laws that require background checks because they restrict ownership to felons and the mentally ill, yes a violation of the Second Amendment. I understand there are restrictions to the Bill of Rights but I don't agree with these.
    What mentally ill individuals would be prohibited though?

    You see, they like to throw blanket statements around, without any details.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    What mentally ill individuals would be prohibited though?

    You see, they like to throw blanket statements around, without any details.
    Chit, I can name names without hesitation from this forum that shouldn't have guns, son.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lol, no. I said they've occurred once in every thirteen days in 2019.

    In other news, do you have your white jeans clean and pressed for tomorrow evening?
    so 19 incidents?

    is that an epidemic?
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    What mentally ill individuals would be prohibited though?

    You see, they like to throw blanket statements around, without any details.
    if you are so mentally ill that you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun, then I would prefer you not on the streets period.

    I would like to reverse deinstitutionalization - I don't want it like the old days but modern and caring facilities.
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    Originally Posted by gwg77 View Post
    since you love trying to walk back your stupidity, lemme just post what you said (2) times:





    you are so fukkin dumb you thought having a mass shooting every 13 days meant you have a 1/13 chance of being involved in one.

    LOLOLOLOLOL.
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    you should start with yourself, if you think you can play that game.
    Lol @ your conehead, son. Fyi, I've got a tee time in 10 minutes, so if you don't hear back from me right away, it's coz of golf, son.

    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    so 19 incidents?

    is that an epidemic?
    It's a trend.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    It's a trend.
    Trends shouldn't dictate laws that impact Constitutionally protected rights
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Trends shouldn't dictate laws that impact Constitutionally protected rights
    I didn't say they should.
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    I didn't say they should.
    so what's the issue then? Do you just want us to say it is a big issue?
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    We don't work for the mental hospitals, you may be confusing us with security.
    It was a policeman. Not sure how the legal part happens so quickly, but it seems the psychiatrist can have a word with someone and the policeman hands you the love letter in like 5, 10 minutes.
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    It was a policeman. Not sure how the legal part happens so quickly, but it seems the psychiatrist can have a word with someone and the policeman hands you the love letter in like 5, 10 minutes.
    Why would it be a policeman? Your story doesn't make sense.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    You have been destroyed in every gun thread you have created, and participated in. Every single one.
    get some help. If you are on the police force like you claim, then there's programs available to help.

    Trolling for the sake of starting arguments with no real intent for sincere discussion is a cry for help.

    You are a very sad and miserable person inside. Don't bring your negativity into my world.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    get some help. If you are on the police force like you claim, then there's programs available to help.

    Trolling for the sake of starting arguments with no real intent for sincere discussion is a cry for help.

    You are a very sad and miserable person inside. Don't bring your negativity into my world.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    get some help. If you are on the police force like you claim, then there's programs available to help.

    Trolling for the sake of starting arguments with no real intent for sincere discussion is a cry for help.

    You are a very sad and miserable person inside. Don't bring your negativity into my world.
    Okay.....

    This is coming from the guy who has two accounts....

    Pointing out that you know jack**** about firearms isn't trolling, and there's no anger. Mostly it's just pity.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Okay.....

    This is coming from the guy who has two accounts....

    Pointing out that you know jack**** about firearms isn't trolling, and there's no anger. Mostly it's just pity.

    You're wrong about literally everything you post. I have only ever had a single account, but thanks for proving yet again how little you know. Your mind can't fathom a world where you aren't venting in negative ways online. How empty is your personal life where this is the only entertainment you have? Miserable and pitiful and sad.
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    Originally Posted by |ceman View Post
    You're wrong about literally everything you post. I have only ever had a single account, but thanks for proving yet again how little you know. Your mind can't fathom a world where you aren't venting in negative ways online. How empty is your personal life where this is the only entertainment you have? Miserable and pitiful and sad.
    Okay guy, somebody is getting a little bitchy about getting destroyed in every gun thread made over the years. It's okay, go for a walk, clear you mind. Maybe hit the gym.
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    I just love how what you said is so retarded, you can't even defend it.
    U wat m8?

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    so what's the issue then? Do you just want us to say it is a big issue?
    Define big issue, and how big of an issue does there need to be before admission is not enough? Just curious, or playing devil's advocate, son.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Why would it be a policeman? Your story doesn't make sense.
    Because they really don't want psychotic homicidal and suicidal people leaving a crisis center?

    Idk...seems pretty logical if you ask me.

    Edit: I was not homicidal...just very delusional and depressed. Extremely paranoid.

    I think it's the sherriff's people they station there. But they will put you in a restraint and take you from there to a mental hospital next door.

    It's a LEO because going with them is not optional.
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    Originally Posted by GreatOldOne View Post
    Because they really don't want psychotic homicidal and suicidal people leaving a crisis center?

    Idk...seems pretty logical if you ask me.

    Edit: I was not homicidal...just very delusional and depressed. Extremely paranoid.

    I think it's the sherriff's people they station there. But they will put you in a restraint and take you from there to a mental hospital next door.

    It's a LEO because going with them is not optional.
    Don't worry about Dave. He drinks coconut water by choice - of course he's never heard of police dudes pulling shift at a hospital.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Don't worry about Dave. He drinks coconut water by choice - of course he's never heard of police dudes pulling shift at a hospital.
    Hospitals have security, so he's probably mistaking police officers for them.

    What's wrong with coconut water? Anyway, doesn't matter, they got rid of the sugar tax.....to your dismay.
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