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    531 program for 59 year old

    I've started the 531 program a couple of months ago. I really like it. It's my first time doing anything in the gym to better myself. I've lost 20 lbs since I started middle of July. I was going every other day, I've up'd up to about 5 days a week. I have some questions about the program and adding cardio. Learning lots about the gym lingo and really want to make sure Im doing this correctly and optimal for my age. I'm also doing a keto/whole 30/paleo diet. Basically staying away from sugar and carbs. Traveled this weekend and blew the diet up, getting back on track today. I have concerns about rest periods between workouts and the workouts themselves. I'm up to doing 2-3 core exercises a day and a 30 min run/walk routine right afterwards. I'm following a 531 app a friend showed me. Now that I've been at it for awhile, I'm starting to have questions. My buddy says I'm doing fine, but I'm now looking into this program, and it seems to be somewhat strict. I just want to make sure I'm following the program to it's fullest and most optimal. I started out doing about 20 mins in the gym every other day, now I'm about 90 mins 5 days a week. Thanks, Dave
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    Buy the actual book and read it. Its only like 20 bucks or so.
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    Originally Posted by DCSpartan View Post
    Buy the actual book and read it. Its only like 20 bucks or so.
    yup, the more I read online, the more I believe I need this book.
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    Haven't read the book or seen the app, but isn't 5-3-1 simply based on the amount of reps in that range? Which is usually done to increase your strength.
    I don't think training like a powerlifter at your age would be the best thing to do.
    However i don't know how fit you are or what your health is like, so in the end it's all up to you of course.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Haven't read the book or seen the app, but isn't 5-3-1 simply based on the amount of reps in that range? Which is usually done to increase your strength.
    I don't think training like a powerlifter at your age would be the best thing to do.
    However i don't know how fit you are or what your health is like, so in the end it's all up to you of course.
    If you don't know 5/3/1 (and it's obvious you don't), don't comment based on what you assume it is.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    If you don't know 5/3/1 (and it's obvious you don't), don't comment based on what you assume it is.
    In case you have trouble with reading comprehension, i asked a question based on 531. Usually people ask questions on something they don't know the answer of.
    So maybe try not telling other people whether they should comment or not.

    Also tell me if i'm wrong and that the 531 app/book isn't based on lifts in that rep range, which really is done to increase strength.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    In case you have trouble with reading comprehension, i asked a question based on 531. Usually people ask questions on something they don't know the answer of.
    So maybe try not telling other people whether they should comment or not.
    You asked the question, assumed the answer (incorrectly) then commented based on that misconception.

    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Also tell me if i'm wrong and that the 531 app/book isn't based on lifts in that rep range, which really is done to increase strength.
    You work off weights based on 90% of your 1rm. You rarely approach your true 3rm or 1rm maxes.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    You asked the question, assumed the answer (incorrectly) then commented based on that misconception.
    Yes i asked a question and them said, if it is based on the 5-3-1 reps, then it's designed more for strength which i don't recommend.
    If it isn't based on the 5-3-1 then simply disregard my advice.
    It's not rocket science.

    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    You work off weights based on 90% of your 1rm. You rarely approach your true 3rm or 1rm maxes.
    So how many reps do you actually do then? Because if it is literally 5-3-1 reps, then i wasn't wrong.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Yes i asked a question and them said, if it is based on the 5-3-1 reps, then it's designed more for strength which i don't recommend.
    If it isn't based on the 5-3-1 then simply disregard my advice.
    It's not rocket science.
    Or don't comment.

    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    So how many reps do you actually do then? Because if it is literally 5-3-1 reps, then i wasn't wrong.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Or don't comment.
    Or don't cry about it.
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    Useful your posts are.
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    Originally Posted by TolerantLactose View Post
    Useful your posts are.
    Never seen someone more oblivious than you. Ever heard of self reflection?
    How useful are your ''don't comment'' posts, that you posted twice in this thread?

    Anyways i'm done wasting my time talking to some newly registered person on the forum who thinks he can dictate who can or can't post lmao.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    some newly registered person
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    yup, the more I read online, the more I believe I need this book.
    Back on topic, you may also want to consider the Juggernaut Method 2.0 by Chad Wesley Smith. Smith credits Wendler's influence on his program and it is obvious when you look through it.

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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Haven't read the book or seen the app, but isn't 5-3-1 simply based on the amount of reps in that range? Which is usually done to increase your strength.
    I don't think training like a powerlifter at your age would be the best thing to do.
    However i don't know how fit you are or what your health is like, so in the end it's all up to you of course.
    Well, I've been doing for a couple of months now with no repercussions, I have a trainer who is helping me, I've lost 20 lbs since I started at the end of June, I'm feeling better about myself, it gets me in the gym 4-5 days a week, I even feel guilty when I skip a day. REALLY want to see my gut go away, and so far, 531 is working. I'm not in hurry, I know its a slow program, my objective is to loose the gut, get healthy, get strong. So far so good. As far as my age and how fit I am, I do have a couple of injury's, knee being a recent one that I'm working through, (split it open in a fall, pretty much took a knee with the weight of a dirt bike on me). No damage to any ligaments or muscle, or cartilage, ACL and meniscus looked good, doctor didn't have to take x rays, knee was open enough for him to see inside. That was over Memorial weekend this year. Shoulder has been bad since I injured it in my 20's, doesn't give me too much grief. I haven't had to have any corrective surgery's for any of my injuries. I'm pretty healthy otherwise, low blood pressure, cholesterol not high (not low either). I've been a mechanic my whole career, pretty active when something breaks, I'm pretty much like a maytag repairman, there are days I sit around waiting for stuff to break. So as far as what's good for me at my age, until it hurts or I'm icing joints after a workout, I think I'm good for now. I did buy the book and am reading it now. While other's have said it's not for beginners because there are other methods that would work quicker, like I said, I'm in no hurry and it's working. The app is easy enough and I see results. That's where the magic is, seeing results. I'm learning lots, thanks for all the info.
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    Losing 20 lbs is a great progress! If you want to get rid of your gut, just focus mainly on diet (calorie deficit) and also cardio.
    Those 2 will help you get rid of it the fastest. While keeping your protein intake high and continue lifting and getting more muscles.
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