***Official Football (Soccer) Thread: All leagues and competitions Part 39***

[Midgetkiller]

Hate to say it... but Ole out. It's not just the losses, it's that there's no indication that the team is improving and we're not building on an attacking style of play either. In hindsight, I think the club made the wrong choice in sacking Mourinho and sticking with Pogba, who's a ******* an overrated af. Definition of a good time player.

Absolutely.

Even sacking Van Gaal wasn't the right move tbh. Yeah he made a few poor transfer calls but the football wasn't much worse, the players were just lil homos. The entire team is/was composed of soft *******s. Lukaku didn't have a consistent first touch but he banged in goals every season and he tried hard. How do you not replace a guy like that? He's a guy who will give you something you can count on.

There's enough young talent now but there are no leaders. No one is holding others accountable. Maguire is regarded as some kind of captain because he's the first guy in years to start telling bitches they did something wrong. Look at the dressing room 10-15 years ago. Roy Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Rio, Evra, Beckham were all quality players who had some experience, won some big prizes already and they instilled a culture of winning. And they got it from others before them like Cantona, who taught them the ropes. And every single succesful squad from then up until now was composed of that level of quality combined with (young) players who also wanted to win. They weren't all world class, some of the were guys like Brown, Fletcher, Neville, Butt, Park, Heinze and others but they had that winning mentality and they executed the gameplan and worked their ass off. Whenever someone dropped the ball, Roy Keane would be there to tell them exactly what they did wrong and if he didn't do it, Ferguson would do it in his place.

These current kunts need to stop getting their pubes trimmed and painted, stop paying attention to crazy hairstyles, instagram bs and try and become champions again. They've completely lost that predatory instinct. Why did United score so many goals in Fergie time? Because they kept pushing till the end and would not accept defeat. Getting beaten was an absolute disgrace, players felt bad for days. A guy like Pogba is choosing a new set of colors for his asscheeks before he reaches the fukking catacombs after getting his ass handed to him by some Wolverhampton peasants. He's not taking his job serious, he's ungrateful, he's a cancer in the dressing room, a cancer on social media and he considers himself bigger than the club. That dude should have been shipped off to Madrid this season. You need a Vidal, Busquets, Khedira, Kroos, De Bruyne not even because of their qualities but just because those are guys who will die trying to get a win. The current team visibly gives up. They might pump balls in the box but none of them truly believe they will still grab a win. If you saw Rooney, Scholes, Ruud, CR7, Giggsey, Nevill in Fergie-time... They were men possessed, they would not accept anything else than getting that goal and they knew they could do it.

And the board isn't much better. There is no true purpose in their actions, absolutely no vision or planning before the summer. So many missed opportunities over the last few mercatos, unreal. And then we get to look at dudes like Lingard, who is fit to play for Everton perhaps but not Manchester United ffs.

Look at Real Madrid after CR7 left. The dude kept an entire team in check practically by himself, he didn't allow his guys to be soft. You need some animals in there who are willing to cross some lines to win. Meanwhile pep is assembling dream teams and throwing out players who have quality just because they don't get with the team mentality.

[GarthVader]

They will but not as much as city will in the upcoming weeks without laporte.. Liverpool could be 10+ points clear by Jan.

They had a pretty big lead last January... just saying.

[MatthewChav]

mou is a class manager and sacking him was always the wrong move.

They have just gotta sack Ole now - he's totaly inexperienced and for/to me is position now should be un-tenable

[Rai9]

mou is a class manager and sacking him was always the wrong move.

It worked out for Chelsea. It's easy to talk in hindsight, especially since as soon as Ole came the team started winning games and cucking others in the CL like it was the Fergie days. I don't blame the board for signing him when they did because it could not have gone any better for Ole. As soon as they signed him though the team went to shiet.

[GarthVader]

It worked out for Chelsea. It's easy to talk in hindsight, especially since as soon as Ole came the team started winning games and cucking others in the CL like it was the Fergie days. I don't blame the board for signing him when they did because it could not have gone any better for Ole. As soon as they signed him though the team went to shiet.

It seems like with almost all big manager changes. It's cyclical.

[juvefan]

And we went and played an absolute ****ter against the Serie B champs of 2007. Even with Sensi on the pitch we were pretty poor imo.You are right about Brozo and he seems to not be at his best.There are moments when he looks decent but its not good enough.Maybe its the fast paced pressing style of Conte that has the players knackered.Lets hope Sensi starts against Sass who we havent beaten since 2016 it seems!!!


Also i really enoyed seeing Pjanic and Ronaldo get beat up right and proper.Well done to the ref for letting things flow.Lots of fouls by both teams but it seemed we went in far harder.

Lautaro seems to be really coming into his own.If he can improve his decision making and stop being selfish we might even have a world class player in him.I want to see Alexis-Lautaro upfront from here on.Lukaku was so ****.I hope Conte has the balls to bench him.

[khatskevitch]

So Milan sacked Giampaolo and hired Pioli .

[anegusse]

It worked out for Chelsea. It's easy to talk in hindsight, especially since as soon as Ole came the team started winning games and cucking others in the CL like it was the Fergie days. I don't blame the board for signing him when they did because it could not have gone any better for Ole. As soon as they signed him though the team went to shiet.

They should sticked with their original word and signed a manager at the end of the season. That was the original plan. I understand the boards reason for signing him because they were 16 games unbeaten but right after Ole signed a contract they went down hill

[Zonda33dReu]

So Milan sacked Giampaolo and hired Pioli .

Milan are doing Giampaolo like Inter did Gasperini. Wouldn't be surprised if he's fired in a few weeks.

Brah it was obvious they would do something stupid. I just wished it had been Spalletti. Their players are not good.

[nvrstopworking]

Absolutely.

Even sacking Van Gaal wasn't the right move tbh. Yeah he made a few poor transfer calls but the football wasn't much worse, the players were just lil homos. The entire team is/was composed of soft *******s. Lukaku didn't have a consistent first touch but he banged in goals every season and he tried hard. How do you not replace a guy like that? He's a guy who will give you something you can count on.

There's enough young talent now but there are no leaders. No one is holding others accountable. Maguire is regarded as some kind of captain because he's the first guy in years to start telling bitches they did something wrong. Look at the dressing room 10-15 years ago. Roy Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Rio, Evra, Beckham were all quality players who had some experience, won some big prizes already and they instilled a culture of winning. And they got it from others before them like Cantona, who taught them the ropes. And every single succesful squad from then up until now was composed of that level of quality combined with (young) players who also wanted to win. They weren't all world class, some of the were guys like Brown, Fletcher, Neville, Butt, Park, Heinze and others but they had that winning mentality and they executed the gameplan and worked their ass off. Whenever someone dropped the ball, Roy Keane would be there to tell them exactly what they did wrong and if he didn't do it, Ferguson would do it in his place.

These current kunts need to stop getting their pubes trimmed and painted, stop paying attention to crazy hairstyles, instagram bs and try and become champions again. They've completely lost that predatory instinct. Why did United score so many goals in Fergie time? Because they kept pushing till the end and would not accept defeat. Getting beaten was an absolute disgrace, players felt bad for days. A guy like Pogba is choosing a new set of colors for his asscheeks before he reaches the fukking catacombs after getting his ass handed to him by some Wolverhampton peasants. He's not taking his job serious, he's ungrateful, he's a cancer in the dressing room, a cancer on social media and he considers himself bigger than the club. That dude should have been shipped off to Madrid this season. You need a Vidal, Busquets, Khedira, Kroos, De Bruyne not even because of their qualities but just because those are guys who will die trying to get a win. The current team visibly gives up. They might pump balls in the box but none of them truly believe they will still grab a win. If you saw Rooney, Scholes, Ruud, CR7, Giggsey, Nevill in Fergie-time... They were men possessed, they would not accept anything else than getting that goal and they knew they could do it.

And the board isn't much better. There is no true purpose in their actions, absolutely no vision or planning before the summer. So many missed opportunities over the last few mercatos, unreal. And then we get to look at dudes like Lingard, who is fit to play for Everton perhaps but not Manchester United ffs.

Look at Real Madrid after CR7 left. The dude kept an entire team in check practically by himself, he didn't allow his guys to be soft. You need some animals in there who are willing to cross some lines to win. Meanwhile pep is assembling dream teams and throwing out players who have quality just because they don't get with the team mentality.

I’m wondering if Bale might be the kind of guy who could help right the ship and lead this team. In spite of what Madrid and others might think of him he’s a proven winner and he shows up for big games. Surely United could engineer a swap for Pogba?

[Midgetkiller]

I’m wondering if Bale might be the kind of guy who could help right the ship and lead this team. In spite of what Madrid and others might think of him he’s a proven winner and he shows up for big games. Surely United could engineer a swap for Pogba?

I used to be against Bale because he's kind of a ******* but he's actually appearing to be a boss at Real right now. He's basically telling Zidane to fuk off and die by being the best player in the team. United needs bit of that.

But...

Bale is also an asocial cuck bitch. His nickname is 'the golfer' because he cancels team dinners to wake up early to go to play golf and injure his back. Not exactly what this United team needs. If only we had a Roy Keane clone in his prime, smacking the fuk out of the Pogbas and Lingards of this world.

[ezmac31]

I used to be against Bale because he's kind of a ******* but he's actually appearing to be a boss at Real right now. He's basically telling Zidane to fuk off and die by being the best player in the team. United needs bit of that.

But...

Bale is also an asocial cuck bitch. His nickname is 'the golfer' because he cancels team dinners to wake up early to go to play golf and injure his back. Not exactly what this United team needs. If only we had a Roy Keane clone in his prime, smacking the fuk out of the Pogbas and Lingards of this world.

didn’t I read 3 year rebuild plan? Pretty much means sell pogba and buy a bunch of young South American talent doesn’t it? Bale doesn’t work in that scenario

I’m wondering who on this MU squad even makes the match day 18 on great teams of past MU ...De Gea is probably the only regular starter, pogba a spot starter rotation guy. Maybe rashford off the bench late in games for pace wide. That’s really it.

[wifestealer]

bale is the ****ing man. him and ronaldo in fifa 16, ****in unstoppable.


madrid fans outside of the bernabeu and the creepy arabs love bale. dude is the perfect winger (sans injury issues), doesnt have showboat skills but 99 pace and can whip in ridiculous pinpoint crosses on the run :blessed:

a good handful of ronaldo's decisive CL knockout stage goals were set up by bale

[ezmac31]

bale is the ****ing man. him and ronaldo in fifa 16, ****in unstoppable.


madrid fans outside of the bernabeu and the creepy arabs love bale. dude is the perfect winger (sans injury issues), doesnt have showboat skills but 99 pace and can whip in ridiculous pinpoint crosses on the run :blessed:

a good handful of ronaldo's decisive CL knockout stage goals were set up by bale

right but he never became the goal scorer to take the torch from Ronaldo, and brb always injured. Dude has scored some amazing goals though

[Rai9]

Bale should get more love. The guy scored multiple game-winners in finals to win RM the CL and the Copa Del Rey. Like it or not the kunt came in 2014 and that's when shiet starting clicking for the *******s that led to their title wins.

[wifestealer]

Bale should get more love. The guy scored multiple game-winners in finals to win RM the CL and the Copa Del Rey. Like it or not the kunt came in 2014 and that's when shiet starting clicking for the *******s that led to their title wins.

100%, and no true madrid fan would say otherwise.

the BBC was just as good as MSN, which is saying something because individually they aren't more talented.

messi more talented than ronaldo
suarez more talented than benzema
neymar more talented than bale

[nvrstopworking]

I used to be against Bale because he's kind of a ******* but he's actually appearing to be a boss at Real right now. He's basically telling Zidane to fuk off and die by being the best player in the team. United needs bit of that.

But...

Bale is also an asocial cuck bitch. His nickname is 'the golfer' because he cancels team dinners to wake up early to go to play golf and injure his back. Not exactly what this United team needs. If only we had a Roy Keane clone in his prime, smacking the fuk out of the Pogbas and Lingards of this world.

Pretty sure he was only dubbed “antisocial” because he hates the Spanish trend of having team dinners at 10pm.

Just seems like a guy who would be much happier back home in the EPL.

[khatskevitch]

Brah it was obvious they would do something stupid. I just wished it had been Spalletti. Their players are not good.

Milan are only 4 points behind 4th spot.Also they do have some talented young chaps like Theo,Leao,Paqueta,Piatek,Kessie.I think we may even see a surprise turn around at Milan and them becoming good.Pioli will play a 4-3-3 that will suit their players.I was hoping Giampaolo will screw em up a bit more so that they are about 7-10 pts off 4th place but their mgmt acted quickly.

Now we will find out how good Pioli is.With us it went awry after a great start.At Fiorentina he didnt have the money really and they sold all their big names.This could be his last chance and i have a feeling he will take it.I do hope that means they finish 5th still .

[TokenV]

Belgium first country to qualify for Euro 2020

unless San Marino comes back in the second half

from 6-0 down

lol

[ezmac31]

Knew pulisic to Chelsea was a bad move...should’ve stayed in Germany or went to Italy (not sure Italy was on the table)

[Dontoewsmebro]

Knew pulisic to Chelsea was a bad move...should’ve stayed in Germany or went to Italy (not sure Italy was on the table)

Just unlucky he probably didn't expect Sarri to leave. Also, he just comes into a situation where there's a lot of talented English players playing in his position now, and in my opinion Frank will always play an English promising player over him.

Hodson-Odoi
Abraham
Mason Mount
Loftus Cheek(Although Pulisic is not really a CM more of a CAM or Winger)

[nvrstopworking]

Belgium first country to qualify for Euro 2020

unless San Marino comes back in the second half

from 6-0 down

lol

If they don’t win either this coming Euro or the 2022 WC it’ll have been a massive waste of talent.

Croatia should be a serious threat again too.

[TokenV]

If they don’t win either this coming Euro or the 2022 WC it’ll have been a massive waste of talent.

Croatia should be a serious threat again too.

true

it is difficult to win a big tournement though, you only get 1 chance every 2 years and one bad day and you're out

if we look at this generation:

- failed to qualify for Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012... FAIL
- QF in WC 2014, loss against later finalist Argentina... can happen
- QF in Euro 2016, loss against Wales... FAIL
- SF in WC 2018, loss against winner France... could've gone either way - should have gone for the "easier path on paper" though
- Nations League choke against Switzerland... massive FAIL looking at the circumstances

it would honestly surprise me if they end up winning a big tournement, don't think it's gonna happen

[lsiberian]

If they don’t win either this coming Euro or the 2022 WC it’ll have been a massive waste of talent.

Croatia should be a serious threat again too.

Yeah they should definitely win something.

[ezmac31]

Americans getting their **** pushed in by Canada. What I disgrace.

Why do we still need to see Bradley? One great diagonal switch a game doesn’t make up for 10 give aways and no pace in the middle. Roldan is awful in the middle too. Where is darlington nagbe and kellyn Acosta?

Why can’t you play both cannon and yedlin at the same time and just have one on the opposite side?

Berhalter sucks. Yes mad

[TokenV]

Americans getting their **** pushed in by Canada. What I disgrace.

didn't know CONCACAF started a Nations League as well

what the UEFA edition concerns I'm in the minority but I actually like the concept, it beats playing only friendly matches and for the smaller nations there is also something to play for (EURO qualification)

[engscott]

First win over USA in 34 years, love it

Like the CONCACAF Nations League, will definitely give more to play for for countries like Canada who have a really hard time qualifying for the WC. Another trophy along with the Gold Cup to really go for

[nvrstopworking]

Damn... looks like our boys are FINALLY on the come up. Great win. Davies looks like a legit talent too. Heard something about Bayern looking at him?

[ezmac31]

Damn... looks like our boys are FINALLY on the come up. Great win. Davies looks like a legit talent too. Heard something about Bayern looking at him?

he already comes off the bench for Bayern. Thing is they play him as a wing back or wide midfielder. He was super dangerous underneath a supporting striker last night...imagine him playing that role with lewandowski

[lolXlol]

true

it is difficult to win a big tournement though, you only get 1 chance every 2 years and one bad day and you're out

if we look at this generation:

- failed to qualify for Euro 2008, WC 2010, Euro 2012... FAIL
- QF in WC 2014, loss against later finalist Argentina... can happen
- QF in Euro 2016, loss against Wales... FAIL
- SF in WC 2018, loss against winner France... could've gone either way - should have gone for the "easier path on paper" though
- Nations League choke against Switzerland... massive FAIL looking at the circumstances

it would honestly surprise me if they end up winning a big tournement, don't think it's gonna happen

3 tiers of national teams from 2010 - present

tier 1: germany, uruguay, portugal etc
tier 2: colombia, croatia, chile etc
tier 3: hungary, ****lia, cambodia, argentina etc

this past decade were the worst ever argentina rosters in their history, not beating them was a colossal FAIL imo